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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Not sure, but I had a bet with Paddy Power that SpaceX would chuck something at Mars within Trump's first term. Thought they were a bit mean not paying out.

They should have done as thats the goal. the lunar base is the first step to Mars.  I think i heard on the radio this morning they are still on about that one way ticket to Mars sod that, first on the planet or not still wouldnt sign up.

Endeavour (Dragon capsule) due to dock at 1230 our time

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2 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

They should have done as thats the goal. the lunar base is the first step to Mars.  I think i heard on the radio this morning they are still on about that one way ticket to Mars sod that, first on the planet or not still wouldnt sign up.

Endeavour (Dragon capsule) due to dock at 1230 our time

Aye watching it now, last big burn coming up.

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 Although it sounds spectacular I'm not remotely tempted by a trip to Mars, stuck in a tin can for a year then being stuck in a caravan in a quarry and only being able to go outside with a diving suit. Worse than Covid lockdown! Moon I'd jump at.

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

 Although it sounds spectacular I'm not remotely tempted by a trip to Mars, stuck in a tin can for a year then being stuck in a caravan in a quarry and only being able to go outside with a diving suit. Worse than Covid lockdown! Moon I'd jump at.

The moon one at least would be bearable the whole prospect of dying isolated on Mars doesnt sound like a good deal to me (like you say lock down is bad enough), some of the plans for the moon base as much as they sound far fetched are pretty doable especially with the 3d printer.  Think if anyone will achieve it Musk will edge Blue Origin and Sierra corporation i think though the starship lander for the moon is pretty ambitious compared to Blue origin.

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15 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

The moon one at least would be bearable the whole prospect of dying isolated on Mars doesnt sound like a good deal to me (like you say lock down is bad enough), some of the plans for the moon base as much as they sound far fetched are pretty doable especially with the 3d printer.  Think if anyone will achieve it Musk will edge Blue Origin and Sierra corporation i think though the starship lander for the moon is pretty ambitious compared to Blue origin.

If blowing up experimental rockets until they finally work is the key to success, Starship is right on track! I agree, it looks massively ambitious, especially the heat protection for re-entry just using stainless steel with little perforations and liquid coolant I believe. He keeps radically changing designs though, so the final iteration might be totally different. 

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24 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

If blowing up experimental rockets until they finally work is the key to success, Starship is right on track! I agree, it looks massively ambitious, especially the heat protection for re-entry just using stainless steel with little perforations and liquid coolant I believe. He keeps radically changing designs though, so the final iteration might be totally different. 

Its the path of entry to the atmosphere, if you look at Virgin Galactic it relies on the body of the craft being vertical as it enters the atmosphere to create the drag to slow it down which is what Elon plans for Starship one and its landing on the moon,  hes expecting starship 4 to be destroyed (not sure if thats the one that blew up on Friday) i know he has a fleet of them. thing is no one ever thought it possible for to land the rockets  like he has done autonomously  with the falcon rockets to make them reuseable  it will be an amazing feat to see Starship land like that as well.  Just seen the BFR land on the drone ship after the launch was just as fascinating.  

 

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Cracking shots from Crew Dragon at the mo. Rewind a few minutes for the views of ISS and Earth out the window.

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22 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Cracking shots from Crew Dragon at the mo. Rewind a few minutes for the views of ISS and Earth out the window.

You watching on the NASA youtube channel ?

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3 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

You watching on the NASA youtube channel ?

https://www.spacex.com/launches/ , think it's the same coverage. The stuff from inside dragon was just for about 10 minutes, best bit was the start, roughly 20 minutes ago? It rewinds easily if you missed it.

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

https://www.spacex.com/launches/ , think it's the same coverage. The stuff from inside dragon was just for about 10 minutes, best bit was the start, roughly 20 minutes ago? It rewinds easily if you missed it.

I was watching the NASA one just the different control rooms, just seen the footage must be some buzz seeing that, will get a better look at what i missed once they dock

 

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4 hours ago, welshbairn said:

 Although it sounds spectacular I'm not remotely tempted by a trip to Mars, stuck in a tin can for a year then being stuck in a caravan in a quarry and only being able to go outside with a diving suit. Worse than Covid lockdown! Moon I'd jump at.

This. 
 

Mars looks like a further away version of the moon that’s a bit rusty.

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2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

This. 
 

Mars looks like a further away version of the moon that’s a bit rusty.

There's a film on Amazon with quality footage of the last Apollo mission, 17 I think. The moon doesn't look boring at all in colour.

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

There's a film on Amazon with quality footage of the last Apollo mission, 17 I think. The moon doesn't look boring at all in colour.

Is quite like to land near some wee craters or somewhere like the Sinus Iridium.  None of the really flat bits.

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2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

Is quite like to land near some wee craters or somewhere like the Sinus Iridium.  None of the really flat bits.

Might go to one of the poles.

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Embarrassing pork barrel politics stuff going on now with the arrival ceremony and arsehole US politicians getting air time. The Russians must be feeling bemused at it all.

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14 hours ago, welshbairn said:

There's a film on Amazon with quality footage of the last Apollo mission, 17 I think. The moon doesn't look boring at all in colour.

Yes, you are right.  It is Apollo 17.  Just a warning in case somebody thinks this sounds interesting but buys a DVD for Apollo 18 instead!

 

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