The Moonster Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, 1320Lichtie said: I have absolutely no idea but off the top of my head I can’t really think of many situations like this one happening either Maybe not to the extent of Wallace where there's been a fall out but contracts are cancelled early all the time in the lower leagues. I wouldn't be shocked to see one or more of our own two year deals move on this summer and I can assure you we won't be asking clubs to pay us 5k for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, nofixedability said: Darvel paid Forfar a five figure sum just this week? Not the greatest example really, considering the boys running Darvel are pissing funds up the wall that other clubs don't have, and Forfar probably wanted to keep him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofixedability Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, The Moonster said: Not the greatest example really, considering the boys running Darvel are pissing funds up the wall that other clubs don't have, and Forfar probably wanted to keep him. Yeah, but he was on a two year contract and we agreed to sell him for a fee. Similar a few years ago when Swankie refused to play for us , sold to Arbroath for a fee also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, nofixedability said: Yeah, but he was on a two year contract and we agreed to sell him for a fee. Similar a few years ago when Swankie refused to play for us , sold to Arbroath for a fee also. Nearly 10k I’m sure We also paid a fee for Wallace when he wanted away from Stranraer too Edited June 11, 2022 by 1320Lichtie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Maybe not to the extent of Wallace where there's been a fall out but contracts are cancelled early all the time in the lower leagues. I wouldn't be shocked to see one or more of our own two year deals move on this summer and I can assure you we won't be asking clubs to pay us 5k for them. Exactly. We are in the same position with Ross Forbes still has a year to run but would imagine we are trying to mutually release him early if he can find a club. It's fairly common practise. You aren't going to demand a nominal fee for EVERY player who has a year to run when the circumstances don't warrant that - much like the Wallace situation here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, nofixedability said: Yeah, but he was on a two year contract and we agreed to sell him for a fee. Similar a few years ago when Swankie refused to play for us , sold to Arbroath for a fee also. Again, Forfar wanted to keep these players and clubs out there were willing to pay your valuation. East Fife obviously didn't want to keep him as he was disruptive, they've realised nobody is paying 5k and got rid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Again, Forfar wanted to keep these players and clubs out there were willing to pay your valuation. East Fife obviously didn't want to keep him as he was disruptive, they've realised nobody is paying 5k and got rid. Fair. But if they really pushed for it I’m sure they could’ve got something if Dumbarton really wanted him, which it looks like they did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life on Marrs? Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I'm sure we paid a fee for Daniel Higgins also, (£8000 rings a bell). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Fair. But if they really pushed for it I’m sure they could’ve got something if Dumbarton really wanted him, which it looks like they did We don’t have a pot to piss in, if East Fife wanted a fee we would’ve moved on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Wallace has done well to get another 2 year deal. If he doesn't fancy it at Dumbarton he can down tools again until he gets a move to a Darvel etc, and if he gets injured he can continue picking up a wage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It's obviously not ideal but when it comes down to it, if the choice is between having a torn-faced Ryan Wallace sulking around the club playing shite (when he can be arsed) and pretending to be injured the rest of the time and picking up what's bound to be one of our highest wages, or him just fucking off to Dumbarton... option B please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, fifer said: Wallace has done well to get another 2 year deal. If he doesn't fancy it at Dumbarton he can down tools again until he gets a move to a Darvel etc, and if he gets injured he can continue picking up a wage. If Ryan Wallace decides that’s what he wants to do I’d be quite happy to see us get shot of him as quickly as possible. The same goes for any player who decides they want out. I certainly wouldn’t be in the tears and snotters mess some of the East Fife fans are over it. c***s on Twitter demanding investigations and all sorts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: If Ryan Wallace decides that’s what he wants to do I’d be quite happy to see us get shot of him as quickly as possible. The same goes for any player who decides they want out. I certainly wouldn’t be in the tears and snotters mess some of the East Fife fans are over it. c***s on Twitter demanding investigations and all sorts. I agree. Hence my arguement that giving 2 year deals to players who are not good enough to command a transfer fee is a complete waste of time and money, but it does ruin it for other players who would be willing to honour 2 year deals in return for the additional security it offers. I guess it up to clubs to judge the character (honesty) of individual players when negotiating contracts. Edited June 11, 2022 by fifer Spellin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, fifer said: Hence my arguement that giving 2 years deal to players who are not good enough to command a transfer fee is a complete waste of time and money It’s not really though. You dont HAVE to release them, you only do so when it’s in your best interests to do so. Some 2 year deals work out and some don’t, that’s just the risk you take. If they want away and you can get a fee for them then you’ll get one. With older players on a downward trajectory that most likely wont happen but it still doesn’t make a 2 year deal some sort of pointless excercise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: It’s not really though. You dont HAVE to release them, you only do so when it’s in your best interests to do so. Some 2 year deals work out and some don’t, that’s just the risk you take. If they want away and you can get a fee for them then you’ll get one. With older players on a downward trajectory that most likely wont happen but it still doesn’t make a 2 year deal some sort of pointless excercise. In this case we did HAVE to release Wallace because his refusal to honour the contract forced us to. If we was injured the club would not have had the same option. We rewarded a senior player with a two year deal and when it did not suit him he worked his ticket until the club had no option. For what its worth I would have released him at the start of last season when he was clearly unhappy with how things were going at EF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, fifer said: In this case we did HAVE to release Wallace No you didn’t. You chose to release him because it wasn’t working out. Big deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: No you didn’t. You chose to release him because it wasn’t working out. Big deal. In life 'choice' is sometimes only a option for those who have the money to be able to choose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambuslang Fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, nofixedability said: Darvel paid Forfar a five figure sum just this week? But Darvel, Kelty and cove will pay clubs like East Fife, Forfar etc for current players as would championship teams. That’s nothing much of archievement when was the last time east fife or Forfar spent money on players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambuslang Fifer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: Bobby Linn had a year at Ballingry. Probably making about 30 grand for himself. Before signing for us I almost forgot he went there until you mention that there. Jesus crist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, fifer said: In life 'choice' is sometimes only a option for those who have the money to be able to choose. Keep your Facebook maw quotes out of this please. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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