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9 hours ago, engelbert_humperdink said:

Medicinally it would give pain patients the option to use weed instead of opiates which are highly addicitive and can cause horrible withdrawals even on recommended dosages

I don't disagree for using it for medical purposes, I am all for that.

54 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

 

I might be misreading the tone of your posts, but despite how you’ve referred to stoners you’ve ‘known’ or ‘seen’, it’s coming across like you’re trying to paint all stoners as total losers and stinking minks.....Which I’d agree with but only if referring to the types who sit on their arse not working and smoking it all day.

 

Not everyone who smokes weed fall into this category though.

It does for the ones I have known and that is all I can go on.

But what pisses me off about it is that the only reason some folk can come up with to legalise it, is that is not as harmful as drink. Its all to do with suiting folks agendas, for instance The Rangers want the rules to change so they can sing their songs, dope smokers want the rules to change so they can get stoned without any repercussions.

32 minutes ago, engelbert_humperdink said:

the guy has issues simple as that

If you need to smoke dope, you have issues. 

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On 24/08/2019 at 23:54, johnnydun said:

I don't disagree for using it for medical purposes, I am all for that.

It does for the ones I have known and that is all I can go on.

But what pisses me off about it is that the only reason some folk can come up with to legalise it, is that is not as harmful as drink. Its all to do with suiting folks agendas, for instance The Rangers want the rules to change so they can sing their songs, dope smokers want the rules to change so they can get stoned without any repercussions.

If you need to smoke dope, you have issues. 

Well, you could do some actual research on the subject rather than some anecdotal "the ones I have known smell bad" pish.  I can counter that by saying the ones I know aren't smelly and thus deeming your argument the nonsense that it is.

That's not the only reason people want it legal, but what exactly is your problem with it? What pisses you off about stoners not wanting fined or imprisoned for doing something less harmful than consuming alcohol, and something that has literally no discernible affect on your life? 

Sounds like you've got a massive chip on your shoulder.

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38 minutes ago, MirandaR said:

For medical purpose - definitely. Just to get high - nope!

What do you have against people getting high?

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12 minutes ago, tree house tam said:

Make it class A. Then hopefully these Cheets and Chong types can be smelly in incarceration. 

Or you could just make it legal and let us sit in our own wee cafes away from the rest of you absolute wet wipes.

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14 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Or you could just make it legal and let us sit in our own wee cafes away from the rest of you absolute wet wipes.

Why do you have to be so derogative? 

Have a spliff and chill man, be cool dude.

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1 minute ago, tree house tam said:

Why do you have to be so derogative? 

Have a spliff and chill man, be cool dude.

If you're going to disrespect Cheech by calling him Cheets then you deserve all you get.

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4 hours ago, The Moonster said:

 I can counter that by saying the ones I know aren't smelly

That is because you reek yourself.

 

4 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Sounds like you've got a massive chip on your shoulder.

Not at all. 

Not only is it for wasters, there's harmful effects of smoking weed, mental and physical. There's no benefit to smoking it recreationally whatsoever.

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6 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

There's no benefit to smoking it recreationally whatsoever.

What about pleasure and enjoyment?

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Just now, johnnydun said:

That is because you reek yourself.

 

Not at all. 

Not only is it for wasters, there's harmful effects of smoking weed, mental and physical. There's no benefit to smoking it whatsoever.

 

You want it illegal because "wasters do it and it harms people"? 

It's got no perceived benefit to someone like you, to others it might help them get through their day. And you accept there's a medicinal aspect with weed, so you're contradicting yourself a bit. I just find it odd how much hate gets thrown the way of people who largely cause no problems in society, and how much other people don't want them to enjoy themselves.

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24 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

What about pleasure and enjoyment?

If that's all you're taking it for, why not move on to Smack?

17 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

 

You want it illegal because "wasters do it and it harms people"? 

It's got no perceived benefit to someone like you, to others it might help them get through their day. And you accept there's a medicinal aspect with weed, so you're contradicting yourself a bit. I just find it odd how much hate gets thrown the way of people who largely cause no problems in society, and how much other people don't want them to enjoy themselves.

If you need it to get through a day then you are addicted and require medical help, at the tax payers expense.

I'm all for folk enjoying themselves but when it comes with (as you say) addiction, depression and paranoia, I'm not.

I am an advocate of the 'depression thread' so for me to say smoking dope is a good thing would be hypocritical.

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4 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

If that's all you're taking it for, why not move on to Smack?

Eh? What do you think about dancing on a Sunday?  Does it lead to dogging?

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Eh? What do you think about dancing on a Sunday?  Does it lead to dogging?

Not at all, but, like you say, if you are just taking things for enjoyment without caring about the consequences, why not go the whole hog?

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1 minute ago, johnnydun said:

If you need it to get through a day then you are addicted and require medical help, at the tax payers expenses.

I'm all for folk enjoying themselves but when it comes with (as you say) addiction, depression and paranoia, I'm not.

I am an advocate the 'depression thread' so for me to say smoking dope is a good thing would be hypocritical.

It's not about "needing" it to get through a day, we all do stuff that make us happy or that makes life a bit more enjoyable. 

The "medical treatment at the tax payers expense" is a great argument for legalising it. Have a look at how much tax it generates where it's legal, surely having that tax available to treat these problems is preferable to what we have now? Not to mention with regulation the strength gets controlled, which in turn will help with addiction.

I'd imagine the link between cannabis use and depression and alcohol use and depression won't be too far apart. Are you also an advocate of banning alcohol, so as to not seem like a hypocrite in the depression thread?

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The stuff stinks and is much worse than cigarette smoke. I have no views on it being legal (fire away until your heart's content) but I don't want to have to breathe in the rank smell.

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14 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

It's not about "needing" it to get through a day

 

42 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

it might help them get through their day

So which one is it?

16 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

The "medical treatment at the tax payers expense" is a great argument for legalising it.

Ok, if that's your thought process, what stimulant do you stop at? 

I'm sure we could tax the f**k out of Crack and Smack to pay for the problems they create? No?

19 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

I'd imagine the link between cannabis use and depression and alcohol use and depression won't be too far apart. Are you also an advocate of banning alcohol, so as to not seem like a hypocrite in the depression thread?

No, I'm not for the banning of Alcohol but to make more (as in quantity) harmful substances legal because it's ok for one, is a nonsensical argument. I also don't drink.

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1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

Or you could just make it legal and let us sit in our own wee cafes away from the rest of you absolute wet wipes.

You'll be fine when you move to Nelson, they grow it in the hills there. 

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I'm all for folk enjoying themselves but when it comes with (as you say) addiction, depression and paranoia, I'm not.


Alcohol abuse can have the same side effects you’ve mentioned there though.

I’m struggling with why you’re so vehemently against weed tbh. You’ve hardly made a compelling case by only talking the extreme ends and as-if everyone who uses it is a heavy user with all the various side effects?

Everything in moderation, no?





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