paulc Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 An update of Lanarkshire Junior League clubs which did not survive World War II, Kirkmuirhill and Shotts United left at the end of 1938-39, whilst Coalburn United and Shieldmuir Celtic left after the following season Coalburn United - ground name not known old map http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/coalburnmap1942.jpg Google earth http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/coalburnearth.jpg Kirkmuirhill - ground name not known old map http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/kirkmuirhillmap1940.jpg Google earth http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/kirkmuirhillearth.jpg Shieldmuir Celtic ground name not known old map http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/shieldmuirmap1938.jpg Google earth http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/shieldmuirearth.jpg Shotts United - Stanes Park old map http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/shottsutdmap1940.jpg Google earth http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/25/3350994/shottsutdearth.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ga1972 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Love this kind off stuff, great stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowgently2 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Fascinating post and terrfiic research, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimeLarky Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Come to think of it, there was a Larkhall United also at one time. 3 clubs in 1 towm. Believe they played at Bryces Park, now houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_albert Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 There was also Glenboig Juniors and also Blantyre Celtic also therewas a team in Coalburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Croy Celtic were another Lanarkshire junior club although i believe thay played in the Scottish Junior league rather than the Lanarkshire league. They were certainly still around in 1946 as they played kilsyth rangers in a friendly that year, but itmight have been their last. Don't know where their ground was, but I'm sure there are still some folk around who will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulc Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Croy Celtic were another Lanarkshire junior club although i believe thay played in the Scottish Junior league rather than the Lanarkshire league. They were certainly still around in 1946 as they played kilsyth rangers in a friendly that year, but itmight have been their last. Don't know where their ground was, but I'm sure there are still some folk around who will. I found it earlier today but it looks like the server I have the pictures on is down. It is still visible though it looks like it might be ash ...maybe it always was. Will post when up and running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Couple of photographs of Bedlay Juniors and the Colliery from 1912 to 1915.. the team list is from back row : L TO R : Drysdale (trainer), Jimmy Shaw, McGowan, Marshall, Jock Shaw, Tam McGowan, McGowan, McGowan, Davie Shaw, Will McGowan, Will Shaw and Charlie Shaw. Looks like if you were not a McGowan or A Shaw ye did not get in this team lol ha My Dad says his Dad had a pal who played for Bedlay juniors around this time!! He doesnt know his name but my bet he was a Shaw or a McGowan eh ha My Dad also tells me that the famous Glasgow Rangers player Jock "tiger" Shaw hailed from Annathill. Could this be him 3rd from right in the back row?? Certainly does'nt look like the battle hardened and weather beaten player i have seen from old Rangers books, but who knows eh On a sadder note i wonder how many of these poor souls suffered the horrors of the Great war? As they all looked young, willing and able enough to have signed up for the Somme, Ypres and Passchendaele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 On a sadder note i wonder how many of these poor souls suffered the horrors of the Great war? As they all looked young, willing and able enough to have signed up for the Somme, Ypres and Passchendaele. My memory's a bit rusty on this one, but I think if you worked in the mines you were regarded as an essential war worker & exempted from conscription. That's not to say some of them rashly joined up as volunteers, especially as some would have thought (wrongly) it to be no more riskier & a lot more glamourous than working in the mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimeLarky Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Croy Celtic were another Lanarkshire junior club although i believe thay played in the Scottish Junior league rather than the Lanarkshire league. They were certainly still around in 1946 as they played kilsyth rangers in a friendly that year, but itmight have been their last. Don't know where their ground was, but I'm sure there are still some folk around who will. John , wasnt it at " the Boag ", behind where the Spar shop now is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 bedlay junior f. c.jpgbedlayplate1.jpg Couple of photographs of Bedlay Juniors and the Colliery from 1912 to 1915.. the team list is from back row : L TO R : Drysdale (trainer), Jimmy Shaw, McGowan, Marshall, Jock Shaw, Tam McGowan, McGowan, McGowan, Davie Shaw, Will McGowan, Will Shaw and Charlie Shaw. Looks like if you were not a McGowan or A Shaw ye did not get in this team lol ha My Dad says his Dad had a pal who played for Bedlay juniors around this time!! He doesnt know his name but my bet he was a Shaw or a McGowan eh ha My Dad also tells me that the famous Glasgow Rangers player Jock "tiger" Shaw hailed from Annathill. Could this be him 3rd from right in the back row?? Certainly does'nt look like the battle hardened and weather beaten player i have seen from old Rangers books, but who knows eh On a sadder note i wonder how many of these poor souls suffered the horrors of the Great war? As they all looked young, willing and able enough to have signed up for the Somme, Ypres and Passchendaele. Talk about coincidences!!!!.I have doing a wee bit of research into Denny Hibs recently and while going through the archives,an interesting result sprang up........ April 25th 1931 Scottish Junior league Eastern Division Bedlay 2 Kilsyth 1 over to you John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 There was also Glenboig Juniors and also Blantyre Celtic... Made a complete mess of this earlier. Blantyre Celtic's ground Craighead Park was close to where all the buses are parked in this Google Maps image: http://preview.tinyurl.com/d49mb3h There are a couple of youtube clips of it available: Found these old pictures of Castle Park where the Vics play: http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/saw033077 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/saw033080 and I think this one has Celtic's ground as well: http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/saw033079 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-nae Cash Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Before my time but I think it coincided with the end of the mining industry a lot of the time. The likes of Douglasdale and Douglas Water Thistle in the southern part of the county were from very small villages that didn't have much else to fall back on economically. Further north there were probably too many clubs too close together for them all to be able to survive the arrival of TV and the growing pull of the Old Firm once people stopped working a half day on Saturdays. With Burnbank Athletic, for example, there would have been Hamilton Accies, Blantyre Vics and Blantyre Celtic all within not much more than a short stroll. A pal of ma faither played for Douglas Water Thistle back in the day, probably in the 50s, I'm sure he also played for Rigside, does anyone know if they had a junior team? Maybe they played under Douglasdale, but with the mining communities, it's possible there may have been three junior teams wihin a few miles of each other. Great thread though, question for Paul C, are there any books out there on Junior football back in the 50s/60s? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie Bot Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Lesmahagow's quite a pretty wee place, but Douglas Water and especially Rigside are some of the ghastliest dumps Ive ever been anywhere near. Seriously- - the kinna places folk used to get exiled for pissing off the Czar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 A pal of ma faither played for Douglas Water Thistle back in the day, probably in the 50s, I'm sure he also played for Rigside, does anyone know if they had a junior team? Maybe they played under Douglasdale, but with the mining communities, it's possible there may have been three junior teams wihin a few miles of each other. Great thread though, question for Paul C, are there any books out there on Junior football back in the 50s/60s? Cheers I checked on Brian McColl's archive site and Rigside doesn't appear to have had a junior team post-WWII, so my guess would be that it was probably a juvenile side: http://scottish-football-historical-archive.com/ http://scottish-football-historical-archive.com/lanarkshirejrleague.htm There's a website with a lot of information about old teams from Douglasdale: http://www.spanglefish.com/DouglasdaleFootball/index.asp?pageid=12132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimeLarky Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Lesmahagow's quite a shitty wee place, but Douglas Water and especially Rigside are some of the ghastliest dumps Ive ever been anywhere near. Seriously- - the kinna places folk used to get exiled for pissing off the Czar. Bertie, Lesmahagow was rejected as a Gulag by Stalin for being too miserable. The most depressing place on Earth, only serious rival being the Qattara Depression. The place has been rescued by the arrival of the Hare Krishna, who searched the world for 200 years looking for the right place. Must have been Blackwood you were thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie Bot Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Bertie, Lesmahagow was rejected as a Gulag by Stalin for being too miserable. The most depressing place on Earth, only serious rival being the Qattara Depression. The place has been rescued by the arrival of the Hare Krishna, who searched the world for 200 years looking for the right place. Must have been Blackwood you were thinking of. Place I was in had this understated, charming thing going on. It had the river Nethan running through it? Kinna had the feel of an old market town. Dunno, I quite liked it anyway. Douglas Water however - it sucked righteous ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobey dosser Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Place I was in had this understated, charming thing going on. It had the river Nethan running through it? Kinna had the feel of an old market town. Dunno, I quite liked it anyway. Douglas Water however - it sucked righteous ass. Cheers Bertie - you are right enough. OldLarky is so bitterntwisted he could be from La**rk. If you are on facebook here's the url for the Gow page https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/115348398500028/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobey dosser Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Bertie, Lesmahagow was rejected as a Gulag by Stalin for being too miserable. The most depressing place on Earth, only serious rival being the Qattara Depression. The place has been rescued by the arrival of the Hare Krishna, who searched the world for 200 years looking for the right place. Must have been Blackwood you were thinking of. I once saw a quote " I thought I had come to the end of the world - and beyond it was Larkhall" very apt. Keep practising the walking for July auld yin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldtimeLarky Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Talk about coincidences!!!!.I have doing a wee bit of research into Denny Hibs recently and while going through the archives,an interesting result sprang up........ April 25th 1931 Scottish Junior league Eastern Division Bedlay 2 Kilsyth 1 over to you John! John would have been at the game and written a report for the Kilsyth News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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