scottsdad Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 What utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Watch this one as the UKIP voter isn't happy with better together. The pundit and deegas........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVehBaBC8BE "The BBC, the British armed forces....British music." :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 What utter nonsense. What stunning insight you must have to put forward such reasoned and balanced debate. You've certainly won me over with your intellectually led vision. The man who has no imagination has no wings. Muhammad Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Currency union with a separately governed independent nation is a huge step. (Look at the debacle with European monetary union). I think the answer may be that it's a question for the people, and therefore probably requires a referendum in Scotland, England, Wales and NI. Mind you, I do agree that no one on either side of the debate seems to be grasping this particular nettle and coming up with a solution. Well why don't the Unionists either say Yes, say No, or say it is a matter for a referendum. Instead we get dark cryptic mutterings about "probably not" and "challenging" etc. If the Unionists want to say no, they should say no. If it will be a matter for a referendum of their own, then they should say so. The only uncertainty here comes from the Unionist side. No matter what, Scotland will be using the pound on day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Currency union with a separately governed independent nation is a huge step. (Look at the debacle with European monetary union). I think the answer may be that it's a question for the people, and therefore probably requires a referendum in Scotland, England, Wales and NI. Mind you, I do agree that no one on either side of the debate seems to be grasping this particular nettle and coming up with a solution. There is a solution that has been put forward by one side of the debate and it's perfectly viable. The only nettle grasping that needs to be done is on the UK side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 http://www.gerryhassan.com/blog/what-is-the-point-of-scotlands-westminster-politicians/ Really good article. Was the white heather club not Brian Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 There is a solution that has been put forward by one side of the debate One sided debate? Not exactly democracy in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 One sided debate? Not exactly democracy in action. Do you not know how debate works? One side puts forward a position or "stance" and it's then debated. Look it up if you're struggling. HTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Well why don't the Unionists either say Yes, say No, or say it is a matter for a referendum. Instead we get dark cryptic mutterings about "probably not" and "challenging" etc. If the Unionists want to say no, they should say no. If it will be a matter for a referendum of their own, then they should say so. The only uncertainty here comes from the Unionist side. No matter what, Scotland will be using the pound on day 1. As I'm not in government nor on the board of the Bank of England, I'm not really in a position to answer that. Also many of us are wavering between both opposing factions and so can't answer for the YES or NO campaign either way. I've simply stated my belief that currency union should be a matter for the people and not politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 One sided debate? Not exactly democracy in action. One side has set out its view. The other side hasn't engaged with it or put forward its own view though. It has simply gone. "Put another view forward". If you are wondering why it is one sided, then take a look at the Unionists. Now, if you were to back to January, perhaps we could hear from a man who claims that ""I am speaking for Scotland" [1], who is senior in Project Fear (Better Together!). What does this man say? When pressed by Brewer on whether a monetary union with Scotland would be in the interests of the rest of the UK, Darling replied: "Of course! If you have independence, or separation, of course a currency union is logical."[2] Only one side is being dishonest and refusing to engage here. [1] http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/darling-i-speak-for-scotland-not-david-cameron.22171221 [2] http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/6549-alastair-darling-backs-currency-union-between-scotland-and-ruk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Do you not know how debate works? One side puts forward a position or "stance" and it's then debated. Look it up if you're struggling. HTH! You're confusing debate with argument. Look it up if you're struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 As I'm not in government nor on the board of the Bank of England, I'm not really in a position to answer that. Also many of us are wavering between both opposing factions and so can't answer for the YES or NO campaign either way. I've simply stated my belief that currency union should be a matter for the people and not politicians. Are the people economists? Do they have economic advisors? Are they in a position to make an informed choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You're confusing debate with argument. Look it up if you're struggling. No, no I'm not. I did say you should look it up if you have a problem. Either way, there's not much you can do if one side refuses to join in the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I see London is to get its own domain name, it's to help business in the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Take it if Indy Scotland doesn't retain any of its influence in The Bank of England, we also don't retain any of the UK's debt? Jackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Take it if Indy Scotland doesn't retain any of its influence in The Bank of England, we also don't retain any of the UK's debt? Jackpot. Thats the way I see it. None of the assets, none of the debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We wouldn't want to hang onto Mother England with our share of that £1.2 trillion tab, now would we? The UK's financial mechanisms is an English thing apparently. We need to stand on our own two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsoverperthshire Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 more bloody oil! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-24954495 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Take it if Indy Scotland doesn't retain any of its influence in The Bank of England, we also don't retain any of the UK's debt?Jackpot. Shall we give back all of our hospitals then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Shall we give back all of our hospitals then? *inhales through teeth* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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