Frosty Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I don't actually, think Salmond is all that as a debater. I also think that Cameron is much better than he is given credit for. I also agree with you on this. Salmond is head and shoulders apart from anyone else in the Scottish Parliament but is not quite the colossus outsidevthat small pool that some would have you believe. His disgraceful performance at Medinah for example shows you that he doesn't always judge his audience. Cameron will of course be on a hiding to nothing with many being tory/etonian/well-spoken but he is no mug and I think might surprise a lot of people if it came to a debate (which it won't). I've seen him speak without notes at a BIS function to a non-party audience and he is very good in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Cameron shites it from Alex,,, just said it should be a debate for the leader of the yes campaign and the leader of the no campaign....eh the leader of the no campaign ,,,is that not the priminister of the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I refer to my signature. Observe, at least ad lib fronts up when he's caught out. Eta, admittedly, he tries to bluster and lie, but at least he doesn't do an hb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Cameron shites it from Alex,,, just said it should be a debate for the leader of the yes campaign and the leader of the no campaign....eh the leader of the no campaign ,,,is that not the priminister of the UK? Correct - it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I assume Salmond is also a coward?Oh aye, the man that would gub any unionist he debated with, he's the coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Of course Churchill would have needed a visitor's pass for Saughton if he'd wanted to debate with the SNP leader for much of WWII. Except he wasn't leader in wwii and no evidence of treachery has ever been produced. Smears before facts, it's the UKOK way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Or was fat Alex just looking for a convenient Englishman to hate on live TV? Not only an English, but a fucking Tory one!! Nah, Not having that Oor Eck would NEVER be so sleekit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Of course Churchill would have needed a visitor's pass for Saughton if he'd wanted to debate with the SNP leader for much of WWII. Its funny, I think at least twice now, I've asked you to develop your point. Why don't you go ahead and make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Massie's take on this extremely vital issue.http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/alex-massie/2013/09/david-cameron-ducks-a-debate-with-alex-salmond-this-makes-sense-but-is-still-depressing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not everyone will agree but I thought that was a pretty balanced article on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not everyone will agree but I thought that was a pretty balanced article on the matter. I agree with you. I've said it before, but Massie is generally one of the Unionists I have more time for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not everyone will agree but I thought that was a pretty balanced article on the matter. I thought it was pretty decent too. I quite like Massies attempts most of the time. I havent had a look at the comments section yet, but he has a cabal of furious cybernats that traipse around after him like lost collie dugs with the usual garbage they spout. Cochrane at the Telegraph tends to write specifically with them in mind and winds them up quite easily but Massie tends to not bother with his pet cybernats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Except he wasn't leader in wwii and no evidence of treachery has ever been produced. Smears before facts, it's the UKOK way. Wrong I'm afraid. You might be thinking of Arthur Donaldson. Douglas Young was one of the SNP leaders during WWII and he was banged up in Saughton. I'll await your acknowledgement you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Wrong I'm afraid. You might be thinking of Arthur Donaldson. Douglas Young was one of the SNP leaders during WWII and he was banged up in Saughton. I'll await your acknowledgement you were wrong. I think he should do no such thing until you stop dancing and hinting, and actually develop your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has the P&B poll moved any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 On another point, there is one thing I don't get about Cameron's statement...if this is a matter for the Scottish people alone, why does his government constantly stick their oar in with all their documents and press releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOLCANO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 On another point, there is one thing I don't get about Cameron's statement...if this is a matter for the Scottish people alone, why does his government constantly stick their oar in with all their documents and press releases? Because they're two-faced, wanting it their own way, cretinous c**ts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has the P&B poll moved any? a tad but there's no room to discuss the poll cos there's points to be scored, hither & thither! Grimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Douglas Young was one of the SNP leaders during WWII and he was banged up in Saughton. Agreed, he was, for his principles as a conscientious objector. Now, just how many Scottish Labour MP's went to jail for exactly the same principles? More than one, I think you'll find........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I think he should do no such thing until you stop dancing and hinting, and actually develop your point. Well Frosty? For days now, you've been dancing around this one, and every time you're challenged, you run away. Are you going to stand and develop your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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