roverthemoon Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 First and last post on the matter: I don't like 'rape' being used as a rhetorical advice at all, much less with children in the same sentence, and for that reason I'd prefer xbl hadn't done it. I've been consistent on this and I have no problem criticising it. However, xbl's correct that a lot worse goes on on P&B and that there seem to be a lot of crocodile tears from people who are quite happy to partake of it themselves. What other people write elsewhere on P&B has nothing whatsoever to do with what people are complaining about here. For what its worth I don't think this is crocodile tears in the slightest. Most people who have commented on it including yourself have condemned what he said as gratuitous and crossing a line. Using the phrase 'raped YOUR children' personalises it and takes it way beyond acceptable. He's been warned by the mods and instead of doing what most other decent people would do and either holding his hands up or lying low for a while he's on here unrepentant and actually revelling in it. No great surprise given his track record in attention seeking but if we're seriously saying that's the level of debate which is deemed acceptable on here then as someone said earlier, I'm not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Cheerio then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 By the way, some of you guys have got to work out my speciality is, is it attention seeking and revelling in it, or is it dodging and hiding. I have no issue with people who find it disgusting, it was meant to be. Tasteless, I can also accept. Offensive though? Give me a break! Feel free to talk about other stuff though, its a bit unfair to accuse me of derailing the thread when it is you lot who have done nothing but talk about me all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 If everyone wants to talk about "rapegate", why not start another thread. I'll not be visiting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula Bairn Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 What other people write elsewhere on P&B has nothing whatsoever to do with what people are complaining about here. For what its worth I don't think this is crocodile tears in the slightest. Most people who have commented on it including yourself have condemned what he said as gratuitous and crossing a line. Using the phrase 'raped YOUR children' personalises it and takes it way beyond acceptable. He's been warned by the mods and instead of doing what most other decent people would do and either holding his hands up or lying low for a while he's on here unrepentant and actually revelling in it. No great surprise given his track record in attention seeking but if we're seriously saying that's the level of debate which is deemed acceptable on here then as someone said earlier, I'm not interested. This mock offence is just another tedious deflection - still waiting to read anything positive from the unionists on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 just came on here to slag off Gordon brown for emerging from his bunker, but it seems this thread has taken an unexpected turn. will leave now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Apparently Johann Lamont was spotted at Holyrood today, charging Salmond using the spurious Scottish Labour equation 'making new laws = government', but I guess we can wait until the door hits roverthemoon's arse on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'd like to defend xbl here. It was a throwaway comment and lots of off colour stuff gets thrown around in metaphors etc. on this board. It's part of the nature of the place and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I don't really understand the grave offence this has caused and I think he's getting a bit of a raw deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'd like to defend xbl here. It was a throwaway comment and lots of off colour stuff gets thrown around in metaphors etc. on this board. It's part of the nature of the place and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I don't really understand the grave offence this has caused and I think he's getting a bit of a raw deal. Agreed. It was a bit off colour, and not something I would personally write, but quite frankly, as the perpetrator of the offence was " intellectual honesty", it is difficult to see the grave offence that is being taken. Some people are trying to be offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hope a few of the P&B posters are going to the Rally in Edinburgh on Saturday 21st September http://www.independencerally.com/main/ Lets fill the hill!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I came across this on facebook https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971280_462414313865799_1562452598_n.jpg I know the circles the guy moves in and the way he speaks, so there's no point engaging him in debate as I'll no doubt just piss people off and achieve nothing (+ I'm a coward) but I wonder if he remembers that alongside the UK, the Soviet Union, USA, China, France, Canada, Australia, Belgium, Poland, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Greece, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, South Africa, Mexico, Czechoslovakia and Mongolia also stood united against the Axis powers.Whatever happened the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia by the way? Been awfy quiet these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrysnotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Thankfully the majority of P&B'ers do not share XBL's view on the suitability of last night's comments. I can't think of any platform on which that subject matter would be appropriate (whether in abstract or otherwise) other than a news bulletin. The initial comment I can accept as an ill judged throw away line. But to continuously defend the comment, plead ignorance, justify it with the "I've seen worse" defense and revel in it is morally reprehensible. Utterly disgusting behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Xlb also commented that the London Marathon (after the Boston Marathon) lacked bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I think it shows for whom the forum is personal, and for whom it is just business. The likes of myself, hb, swampy, reynard etc trade barbs and go to war, but none of us take it personally! Its just a bit of fun. Thats why we can agree on some threads and disagree aggressively on others. Some people take it personally though... I've always used horrendously distasteful imagery, and I always will! Sue me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Thankfully the majority of P&B'ers do not share XBL's view on the suitability of last night's comments. I can't think of any platform on which that subject matter would be appropriate (whether in abstract or otherwise) other than a news bulletin. The initial comment I can accept as an ill judged throw away line. But to continuously defend the comment, plead ignorance, justify it with the "I've seen worse" defense and revel in it is morally reprehensible. Utterly disgusting behaviour. Yes barry we are all of us aware of your views on XBL's tasteless comment. But, let us move on as you are really sounding like a fucking broken record now! So, back on to the topic - can we have the positive case for the Union anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hope a few of the P&B posters are going to the Rally in Edinburgh on Saturday 21st September http://www.independencerally.com/main/ Lets fill the hill!! Ill be going, don't know who with yet though! Going to try and drag some people who wouldn't normally go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Ill be going, don't know who with yet though! Going to try and drag some people who wouldn't normally go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I can't guarantee bringing numbers sadly, many people still aren't really engaged and don't care all that much yet! Even a lot of the Yes leaning types aren't really passionate Yes supporters. I'll be there though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrysnotter Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yes barry we are all of us aware of your views on XBL's tasteless comment. But, let us move on as you are really sounding like a fucking broken record now! So, back on to the topic - can we have the positive case for the Union anyone? I've made one post on the subject in 23 hours. Your comparison with a broken record, therefore, isn't particularly effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hope a few of the P&B posters are going to the Rally in Edinburgh on Saturday 21st September http://www.independencerally.com/main/ Lets fill the hill!! I'm going with the Mrs and my daughter (who at 2 and a half years old will not have a clue what its all about but will hopefully enjoy it!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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