Mr Rational Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 stuff Empty yer inbox please, news winging yer way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As soon as SNP-loyalists have their status quo preservatism called, what do they do? Feign boredom. Deflect deflect deflect. Straight out of Alex Salmond's book of FMQs. I can categorically assure you that no-one feigns boredom after reading one of your long posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I appreciate that you were not born during the exciting era when Communism disintegrated into tiny little bits because it was fucking shite. And that you have been "educated" by a series of Marxist c***s who bent history to promote their agenda and to win impressionable little cretinsminds from damp tower blocks in Greenock. But some of us were alive during that time, and actually understood what was happening. You weren't, and don't. So scuttle off back under your Marxist stone and leave folk that actually know what they are talking about to get on with these things. You can sit there and seethe about working class stuff and owning the means to production and whatever other 19th century things you imagine to be relevant today. Leaving all that shed-based deflection to one side, and getting back to the question: are you seriously comparing the currency union between countries emerging from communism and that between two very rich, comparatively well-balanced capitalist economies? On what basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 After last night English local election, I'd day the UK have no chance of voting to stay in Europe Can't wait to see the better together try to spin last night results as a positive for Scotland remaining within the union Tory government with UKIP as opposition. It may just happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 After last night English local election, I'd day the UK have no chance of voting to stay in Europe Can't wait to see the better together try to spin last night results as a positive for Scotland remaining within the union Tory government with UKIP as opposition. It may just happen Thats the dream scenario. Theres no doubt that the tide has definitely turned in our country as far as Europe and the current set up of the EU is concerned. The only problem with your scenario is that Labour are going to win the general election and not the Tories, so regardless of what the Tories or UKIP offer, it wont matter as neither of them will be in a position to do anything about it. And Scotland is still 50/50 regarding Europe too. Its about 70-30 against independence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Leaving all that shed-based deflection to one side, and getting back to the question: are you seriously comparing the currency union between countries emerging from communism and that between two very rich, comparatively well-balanced capitalist economies? On what basis? Shed based deflection? Is that the same as damp, unemployed, single parented, morbidly unhealthy, tower block posturing? With an added dash of rampant narcissism because you were the first in your family not to leave school at 14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 What currency are we going to be using today then? Any death threats to comedians last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Just as many death threats to our side as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Just as many death threats to our side as well..... Were you out with the spray paint putting traitors on the wall of a newspaper building? If it had been quislings, then we know who to point and laugh at on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No I was busy cutting down flagpoles with butchers aprons that night, yer getting me mixed up with the people's front for Judea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Pleasing, very pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No I was busy cutting down flagpoles with butchers aprons that night, yer getting me mixed up with the people's front for Judea. Oh OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Freud Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I just read this online... "i would vote independence....however the queen would still be the head of state....so a no vote makes more sense..." Words fail me. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Empty yer inbox please, news winging yer way.... Spill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 it's out in the open, stuff about the English elections. Old news now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Tory government with UKIP as opposition. It may just happen At Westminster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 At Westminster? A breakthrough at the Euro elections next year might give people enough incentive to make UKIP more than a protest vote, and actually vote for them in the GE. At ehich point they will likely take away a lot of Labour momentum. The LDs are finished and it could well be that UKIP make huge dents in the marginals. IMHO they are more likely to hurt labour than the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 . IMHO they are more likely to hurt labour than the Tories. How so? I'm sorry, but the prosect of a tory government faced by a UKIP oppostion in 2015 is clearly ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 How so? I'm sorry, but the prosect of a tory government faced by a UKIP oppostion in 2015 is clearly ludicrous. Sorry, I should have been more exact, not a UKIP opposition, but a Labour one. My point is that UKIP tends to do very well amongst 'traditional' Labour supporters who feel that globalisation and free markets have done them nothing but harm. For all that UKIP have a set of small state free enterprise policies, they are also protectionist in that they want us out of Europe and with no freedom of movement. That plays very well in Labour strongholds, so that while UKIP is as likely to split Labour votes as it is Tory ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Sorry, I should have been more exact, not a UKIP opposition, but a Labour one. My point is that UKIP tends to do very well amongst 'traditional' Labour supporters who feel that globalisation and free markets have done them nothing but harm. For all that UKIP have a set of small state free enterprise policies, they are also protectionist in that they want us out of Europe and with no freedom of movement. That plays very well in Labour strongholds, so that while UKIP is as likely to split Labour votes as it is Tory ones. I think that's a fair enough point, especially in taht they'll capitalise on the "anti-poltics" voter who perhaps previously would have voted Labour, I;m not convinced it;s more likely though, I think a strong Ukip showing in 2015 could be enough to get Ed Miliband in by default, if the vote splits the right way for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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