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Think its the second last one. Got a picture that has the sign on it but can't upload it from my phone

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Edit: Photographic evidence.

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/dumbarton-fc-reveal-plans-new-4612590

I don't want to keep going on about it but read this today and it's the first I've heard that we're going to have some sort of Robert the Bruce tourist attraction at the new stadium now too?

What the f**k are we?

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/dumbarton-fc-reveal-plans-new-4612590

I don't want to keep going on about it but read this today and it's the first I've heard that we're going to have some sort of Robert the Bruce tourist attraction at the new stadium now too?

What the f**k are we?

Is it a cave?

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The proposal did include a tourist information point but there was no mention of a themed tourist attraction.

:lol: I must have missed the tourist information point. Who is thinking this shit up? What do tourist come to Dumbarton for? Dumbarton Castle. Where is our ground? Dumbarton Castle. Where's the new ground? Across the other side of town. What tourist attraction will we tell tourists about? Dumbarton Castle. And we'll have a sign that says "Rab eh Bruce woz 'ere".

I really can't believe we're going through with this shit.

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:lol: I must have missed the tourist information point. Who is thinking this shit up? What do tourist come to Dumbarton for? Dumbarton Castle. Where is our ground? Dumbarton Castle. Where's the new ground? Across the other side of town. What tourist attraction will we tell tourists about? Dumbarton Castle. And we'll have a sign that says "Rab eh Bruce woz 'ere".

I really can't believe we're going through with this shit.

Rab eh Bruce 4 Lizzy de Burgh IDST

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:lol: I must have missed the tourist information point. Who is thinking this shit up? What do tourist come to Dumbarton for? Dumbarton Castle. Where is our ground? Dumbarton Castle. Where's the new ground? Across the other side of town. What tourist attraction will we tell tourists about? Dumbarton Castle. And we'll have a sign that says "Rab eh Bruce woz 'ere".

I really can't believe we're going through with this shit.

Don't be so dismissive. Page 136 of 'The Chronicles Of Old Lennox' refers to 'Robert Du Bruis, two equerries and a common prostitute with flaxen hair enjoying some houghmagandie and a steak-bake on the cattle track between Dunbarton (sic) and Renton'.

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Don't be so dismissive. Page 136 of 'The Chronicles Of Old Lennox' refers to 'Robert Du Bruis, two equerries and a common prostitute with flaxen hair enjoying some houghmagandie and a steak-bake on the cattle track between Dunbarton (sic) and Renton'.

That'll be why they stuck all that Robert The Bruce/fake shields and ye olde chibs stuff in the now closed Renton train station.

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Titter ye not. My uncle used to farm at the Mains of Cardross farm which is on the Kipperoch Rd Just above the proposed site. Dalmoak/Renton were in the Parish of Cardross. Archaeologists have found many artefacts there linking Bruce with the locality and they were never away from the farm . Bruce spent the last years of his life and died in the parish of Cardross. The location of Bruce's grand palace has been speculated upon "The buildings on the Pillanflatt, which means "pavilion of the great hero" and is said to stretch from Dalquhurn to Dalreoch, are believed to include the king's manor house, which had a 100ft grand hall, a queen's quarter and a chapel." http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/feb/22/robert-the-bruce-palace-remains.

Bruce's organs, in some accounts, were buried on the site which is now Levengrove Park.

Coincidentally, I was at the funeral of Charlie Anderson today at Dalnottar. Charlie was past president of the Dumbarton Burns Club and fostered links with the Artizan Group who promote Bruce and his history in the area. I've been at a couple of talks by these guys and they may be a bit quirky but boy are they passionate and know their stuff. Several of them were at the funeral and they tell me that it is they who will occupy the tourist aspect should the project go ahead.

F*ck all to do with football I know, but the site is probably as historically significant as Bannockburn.

You're all perfectly entitled to dismiss all this shit, but it does help to know what the shit is before said dismissal.

http://www.castleduncan.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2013-cardross-manor/

http://www.robertthebruceheritagecentre.co.uk/downloads/Pailleanflath.pdf

http://www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/leisure-parks-events/tourism-and-visitor-attractions/museums-and-galleries/collections/people-and-personalities/people-and-personalities-dumbarton/individuals-dumbarton/robert-the-bruce/

Sons fan and good egg Tommy Crocket is involved with the Artizans

Edited by Howlin' Wilf

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By the way, can it be true that the grand White Knight of the Hose whose family connection with the Sons goes back hunners o' years has the majority shareholding in Brabco (insert number here)? I hear he's a right stroppy bugger mind thee......

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And verily it came to pass that the Knight of the White Hose proposed to swap his lands (11 acres suitable for thatched dwelling houses) for 120 acres of land designated for industry and commerce (although neither have been invented yet)

On the condition they bury his heart in the Holy Land where the flag of Palestine flies (Dumbarton Municipal Chambers)

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Titter ye not. My uncle used to farm at the Mains of Cardross farm which is on the Kipperoch Rd Just above the proposed site. Dalmoak/Renton were in the Parish of Cardross Archaeologists have found many artefacts there linking Bruce with the locality and they were never away from the farm . Bruce spent the last years of his life and died in the parish of Cardross. The location of Bruce's grand palace has been speculated upon "The buildings on the Pillanflatt, which means "pavilion of the great hero" and is said to stretch from Dalquhurn to Dalreoch, are believed to include the king's manor house, which had a 100ft grand hall, a queen's quarter and a chapel." http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/feb/22/robert-the-bruce-palace-remains.

Bruce's organs, in some accounts, were buried on the site which is now Levengrove Park.

Coincidentally, I was at the funeral of Charlie Anderson today at Dalnottar. Charlie was past president of the Dumbarton Burns Club and fostered links with the Artizan Group who promote Bruce and his history in the area. I've been at a couple of talks by these guys and they may be a bit quirky but boy are they passionate and know their stuff. Several of them were at the funeral and they tell me that it is they who will occupy the tourist aspect should the project go ahead.

F*ck all to do with football I know, but the site is probably as historically significant as Bannockburn.

You're all perfectly entitled to dismiss all this shit, but it does help to know what the shit is before said dismissal.

http://www.castleduncan.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2013-cardross-manor/

http://www.robertthebruceheritagecentre.co.uk/downloads/Pailleanflath.pdf

http://www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/leisure-parks-events/tourism-and-visitor-attractions/museums-and-galleries/collections/people-and-personalities/people-and-personalities-dumbarton/individuals-dumbarton/robert-the-bruce/

Sons fan and good egg Tommy Crocket is involved with the Artizans

Dear God, this is getting more bizarre than Frank Folan's abortive idea to convert Overtoun House into a US-style country club in the early 1970's. He had reportedly roped in George Raft to front the enterprise, perhaps forgetting that the famous Hollywood hood was banned from entering the UK.

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Dear God, this is getting more bizarre than Frank Folan's abortive idea to convert Overtoun House into a US-style country club in the early 1970's. He had reportedly roped in George Raft to front the enterprise, perhaps forgetting that the famous Hollywood hood was banned from entering the UK.

Ahead of his time perhaps. http://www.ingliston.com/

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Titter ye not. My uncle used to farm at the Mains of Cardross farm which is on the Kipperoch Rd Just above the proposed site. Dalmoak/Renton were in the Parish of Cardross. Archaeologists have found many artefacts there linking Bruce with the locality and they were never away from the farm . Bruce spent the last years of his life and died in the parish of Cardross. The location of Bruce's grand palace has been speculated upon "The buildings on the Pillanflatt, which means "pavilion of the great hero" and is said to stretch from Dalquhurn to Dalreoch, are believed to include the king's manor house, which had a 100ft grand hall, a queen's quarter and a chapel." http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/feb/22/robert-the-bruce-palace-remains.

Bruce's organs, in some accounts, were buried on the site which is now Levengrove Park.

Coincidentally, I was at the funeral of Charlie Anderson today at Dalnottar. Charlie was past president of the Dumbarton Burns Club and fostered links with the Artizan Group who promote Bruce and his history in the area. I've been at a couple of talks by these guys and they may be a bit quirky but boy are they passionate and know their stuff. Several of them were at the funeral and they tell me that it is they who will occupy the tourist aspect should the project go ahead.

F*ck all to do with football I know, but the site is probably as historically significant as Bannockburn.

You're all perfectly entitled to dismiss all this shit, but it does help to know what the shit is before said dismissal.

http://www.castleduncan.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2013-cardross-manor/

http://www.robertthebruceheritagecentre.co.uk/downloads/Pailleanflath.pdf

http://www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/leisure-parks-events/tourism-and-visitor-attractions/museums-and-galleries/collections/people-and-personalities/people-and-personalities-dumbarton/individuals-dumbarton/robert-the-bruce/

Sons fan and good egg Tommy Crocket is involved with the Artizans

That's great. I wasn't doubting the authenticity of whether or not Bruce has ties to the town, merely questioning why the f**k a part-time football club has branched out into the tourism industry.

It's honestly fucking mental and we're entertaining it.

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Ahead of his time perhaps. http://www.ingliston.com/

Perhaps, and it's interesting that you mention Ingliston Wilf, as I would hazard that the owners of a purpose-built luxury wedding view atop panoramic vistas of the River Clyde will no doubt be cacking themselves at the prospect of a rival establishment adjacent to a council refuse station and looking upwards and onto a 1970's housing scheme, complete with gaudy neon signage of Robert The Bruce. Ditto the Loch Lomond trade.

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Perhaps, and it's interesting that you mention Ingliston Wilf, as I would hazard that the owners of a purpose-built luxury wedding view atop panoramic vistas of the River Clyde will no doubt be cacking themselves at the prospect of a rival establishment adjacent to a council refuse station and looking upwards and onto a 1970's housing scheme, complete with gaudy neon signage of Robert The Bruce. Ditto the Loch Lomond trade.

Well no they won't of course. Because Ingliston is a five star facility and I'll bet they'll cater for very few if any wedding parties from Dumbarton. Simply the distance alone means that any development here won't be a rival - particularly not a three star standard of venue. But there's the thing, how well would Ingliston do in Dumbarton? Correct me if I'm wrong Frank but didn't you pooh-pooh the idea of a country club in Dumbarton a few posts back? You can't have it all ways.

I wonder if you have visited the Lake District ? About a mile off the M6 en route to the Lake District, in a very ordinary location is the Rheged Centre http://www.rheged.com/ which does conferences and events, weddings, it has a kids' soft play, a cinema, restaurants, some shops and a filling station. Oh aye and there's the historical aspect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheged but I'm sure Rheged is much more of a recognised name than that of Robert the Bruce.

As I have said before, there are many questions to be asked here and until the funding aspects become clearer, it's hard for anyone to make a decision on whether this would be a good thing for the club or not. I think there is plenty of potential and merit in aspects of the plan though and if the location of the club is to be adjacent to retail and tourism, on the periphery of a national park with good transport links, that could be preferable to being stuck in the middle a residential area in a cul de sac.

But it might not. I don't know.

I'm just considering the possibilities of the info we have and acknowledging that there may be some, rather than the kind of self doubt and loathing which was recently such a feature of the 'No' campaign.

Edited by Howlin' Wilf

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That's great. I wasn't doubting the authenticity of whether or not Bruce has ties to the town, merely questioning why the f**k a part-time football club has branched out into the tourism industry.

It's honestly fucking mental and we're entertaining it.

But the club wouldn't be in the tourism industry. In what way did you think they would?

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Titter ye not. My uncle used to farm at the Mains of Cardross farm which is on the Kipperoch Rd Just above the proposed site. Dalmoak/Renton were in the Parish of Cardross. Archaeologists have found many artefacts there linking Bruce with the locality and they were never away from the farm . Bruce spent the last years of his life and died in the parish of Cardross. The location of Bruce's grand palace has been speculated upon "The buildings on the Pillanflatt, which means "pavilion of the great hero" and is said to stretch from Dalquhurn to Dalreoch, are believed to include the king's manor house, which had a 100ft grand hall, a queen's quarter and a chapel." http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/feb/22/robert-the-bruce-palace-remains.

Bruce's organs, in some accounts, were buried on the site which is now Levengrove Park.

Coincidentally, I was at the funeral of Charlie Anderson today at Dalnottar. Charlie was past president of the Dumbarton Burns Club and fostered links with the Artizan Group who promote Bruce and his history in the area. I've been at a couple of talks by these guys and they may be a bit quirky but boy are they passionate and know their stuff. Several of them were at the funeral and they tell me that it is they who will occupy the tourist aspect should the project go ahead.

F*ck all to do with football I know, but the site is probably as historically significant as Bannockburn.

You're all perfectly entitled to dismiss all this shit, but it does help to know what the shit is before said dismissal.

http://www.castleduncan.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2013-cardross-manor/

http://www.robertthebruceheritagecentre.co.uk/downloads/Pailleanflath.pdf

http://www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/leisure-parks-events/tourism-and-visitor-attractions/museums-and-galleries/collections/people-and-personalities/people-and-personalities-dumbarton/individuals-dumbarton/robert-the-bruce/

Sons fan and good egg Tommy Crocket is involved with the Artizans

Not to mention Bruce's Cottages on Cardross Road.

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