The Moonster Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Rose Harvey was pretty vocal about stopping our move to Renton due to it taking up a huge area of greenspace that nobody other than some cows used. I imagine she'd be apoplectic if we tabled plans to take up an even better greenspace that loads of people actually use. I actually think the traffic would be more manageable there than Renton road but I'd still rather that was kept as a public space. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Being realistic, there aren't that many viable options within Dumbarton. If land was to become available in the industrial estate then it would be an interesting option. Central and well located for public transport, but traffic would be an issue. The opposite would probably be true of Dumbuck - far better for traffic getting onto the A82 but not great for public transport and a real problem if there was an accident on the A82 (as we see regularly around the Milton/Bowling roundabout areas. Everywhere is going to be a compromise of some sort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 See if we demolished all those new houses on the estate at the end of Miller Street, that'd be a great spot for a football stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 We're fine where we are. They can f**k off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 They'll plump us doon havoc next to the sewage works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarti pooh Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Ross Forbes interview previewing this weekend's game on the streaming site for ST holders has just went up the noo! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I see some other clubs offer players’ boots for sponsorship in addition to the home and away kit. Given almost all our kit sponsors have been taken up, it might not be a bad shout to bring in a few extra quid for the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyBrow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I see noted big team Clyde can’t fulfil their fixture this weekend. If only there was a fan base that would work themselves up into a real lather over a postponed fixture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I see we have a young goalkeeper from Dumbarton Utd on the bench tomorrow. I mean it’s great for the lad to experience being part of a matchday squad but surely to god there is some cheapo emergency loan we could bring in to cover Smith? I’d rather we let these youngsters experience a matchday without having to be potentially used in a League 1 fixture long before they are ready for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Kits now available to buy through the online Club Shop. Must say, the home kit has grown on me a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedrick1 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Yes think I predicted this when the signing was announced. good luck to the lad and we live in hope that he had a future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I've just heard John Robertson on telly sing the praises of his centre-back Scott Allardice. Ring a bell with anyone ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Muir Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Kits now available to buy through the online Club Shop. Must say, the home kit has grown on me a lot.Fraid not. It’s yellow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Jumbo Muir said: Fraid not. It’s yellow. I’d prefer gold too, but I still think it looks nice. I’ve ordered both anyway. The away kit is a belter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I never liked either kit when they were announced but I like the away top, something a bit different for us and it looks quite classy on. Home top I still can't get to grips with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) On 02/12/2020 at 20:18, The Moonster said: We're fine where we are. They can f**k off. This excerpt from the club accounts, perhaps articulates that we're far from "Fine where we are". Edited December 5, 2020 by Howlin' Wilf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 This excerpt from the club accounts, perhaps articulates that we're far from "Fine where we are". Grimly interesting stuff Wilf, and if I read this correctly this 'third-party' is underwriting the finances to the end of this season. That closing sentence suggests there may be problems after that, to put it mildly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Howlin' Wilf said: This excerpt from the club accounts, perhaps articulates that we're far from "Fine where we are". I'll need to be convinced on why moving stadium will put an end to those concerns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The Moonster said: I'll need to be convinced on why moving stadium will put an end to those concerns. Which goes back to the arguments Brabco were making and the massive gaps in the credibility of those arguments. Moving stadiums does nothing unless you're getting a massive pay out and rebuilding on the cheap. Even then the money runs out soon enough and you're back to square one. The only thing that'll work for the club is increasing revenue. More fans through the gate. Those fans spending more. People hiring the stadium for non-football purposes. We could move to a brand new stadium tomorrow and it wouldn't make a bit of difference unless we knew how to make that new stadium work for us financially. Brabco fed us fantasies about renting out pitches for strong money, getting people to take office space or hiring the stadium for functions and events. And if we're talking hypothetically then that's fair enough. All of those things can bring non-football revenues in to a football club. The problem is demand. Is there a demand in Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven for events space? Or football pitches? Or office space? And thats where the argument goes south because if there isnt the demand then there's absolutely no value in having the facilities. We could make the current stadium work better for us. It would take a bit of money to upgrade. It would also take time to sell the stadium as a facility and to build up a regular client base. Things like the comedy club are important in that respect because you're getting non-football people down to the ground and showing them that they can host a function there and have a great time. So somebody from the comedy audience needs a venue foe a wedding, birthday or retirement party and they've seen that the stadium can be a really good events space. Somebody is there in hospitality and needs something for a work function and sees that it can be a good option for them. All of that takes time and it takes a degree of knowledge and experience to make work. It isnt a quick fix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleslie99 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, BallochSonsFan said: Which goes back to the arguments Brabco were making and the massive gaps in the credibility of those arguments. Moving stadiums does nothing unless you're getting a massive pay out and rebuilding on the cheap. Even then the money runs out soon enough and you're back to square one. The only thing that'll work for the club is increasing revenue. More fans through the gate. Those fans spending more. People hiring the stadium for non-football purposes. We could move to a brand new stadium tomorrow and it wouldn't make a bit of difference unless we knew how to make that new stadium work for us financially. Brabco fed us fantasies about renting out pitches for strong money, getting people to take office space or hiring the stadium for functions and events. And if we're talking hypothetically then that's fair enough. All of those things can bring non-football revenues in to a football club. The problem is demand. Is there a demand in Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven for events space? Or football pitches? Or office space? And thats where the argument goes south because if there isnt the demand then there's absolutely no value in having the facilities. We could make the current stadium work better for us. It would take a bit of money to upgrade. It would also take time to sell the stadium as a facility and to build up a regular client base. Things like the comedy club are important in that respect because you're getting non-football people down to the ground and showing them that they can host a function there and have a great time. So somebody from the comedy audience needs a venue foe a wedding, birthday or retirement party and they've seen that the stadium can be a really good events space. Somebody is there in hospitality and needs something for a work function and sees that it can be a good option for them. All of that takes time and it takes a degree of knowledge and experience to make work. It isnt a quick fix. There is a demand for pitches yes, as someone involved in football for years, the struggle is there to find pitches week in week out at grassroots level. So I do believe that would be a significant source of income. As for the other points, you are probably right, we are in dire need of income. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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