Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Without wanting to be too harsh on Dowie, I actually think he’s been a large part of our problems over the past couple of seasons. He’s so slow that the defence had to sit very deep, this had the effect of dragging the midfield backwards, or having a large gap between midfield and the defence. It also tended to leave our (typically) one striker very isolated. That was fine when we had Nade as he could hold the ball up until the team could get up the pitch, even when he was clearly finished. None of our other strikers could do this though. Broadly speaking, I’m cautiously optimistic that this is a good thing.It's absolutely a good thing. Dowie has been one of our worst performers this season and isn't exactly the most encouraging of captains. Last season he was ok, he won player of the year which is fair enough but if we're being honest he didn't have much competition. He doesn't read the game all that well, he's slow and he's very prone to misjudging the flight of the ball when going for a clearing header. If we can get Craig Barr and use Dowie's wage on a solid replacement we'll be far better off. If only Loy, Perry, Dyer and Paton could find some work on the rigs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scrotum Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Don't want to be a meteorological doom-sayer but looking at the forecast we might not have a game against Montrose on the 26th. Three pairs of long-johns if we do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ross Forbes said: As much as I loved Nade during his first spell, the last thing we need is another injury prone striker who doesn't score. He managed one goal in his final 28 appearances for us. I can see that argument, but this level is a big drop down from the Championship. The standard in League One is absolutely garbage. I think he would bully defenders and give us a physical presence, which is something that we’ve badly lacked. I don’t see him commanding a huge wage either, which overall would make him worth a punt. The potential issue would be getting him out of his Troon contract, which probably isn’t feasible. Edited January 13, 2019 by FifeSons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezeboxson Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, FifeSons said: I can see that argument, but this level is a big drop down from the Championship. The standard in League One is absolutely garbage. I think he would bully defenders and give us a physical presence, which is something that we’ve badly lacked. I don’t see him commanding a huge wage either, which overall would make him worth a punt. The potential issue would be getting him out of his Troon contract, which probably isn’t feasible. Maybe 3 years ago... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo1872 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Speaking hypothetically, the signing of Nade wouldn’t be what we need. It’d be a gamble on a player who was able to do the business once upon a time but that time was some years ago, and is now injury riddled. Sound familiar? What we need now is pace. There’s a chronic lack of it throughout the squad. We should be looking at young, hungry players who want to make their mark on the game, not those looking for a final pay cheque. In that regard the signing of Armour on a development loan was welcome news. A gamble of course, but I’d rather we gamble on youth than injury prone experienced players given our current situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Speaking hypothetically, the signing of Nade wouldn’t be what we need. It’d be a gamble on a player who was able to do the business once upon a time but that time was some years ago, and is now injury riddled. Sound familiar? What we need now is pace. There’s a chronic lack of it throughout the squad. We should be looking at young, hungry players who want to make their mark on the game, not those looking for a final pay cheque. In that regard the signing of Armour on a development loan was welcome news. A gamble of course, but I’d rather we gamble on youth than injury prone experienced players given our current situation.^^^ this.We have plenty of experience in the squad but we really lack energy and pace. I also think we have too many players who have nothing to prove. Guys like Paton, Loy, Barr, Dowie and Dyer are on a downward trajectory and they know fine well they wont be playing at a higher level than League 1 in the future. It would be nice to add some young and hungry players looking for a chance to prove themselves. Does anyone know how many loan slots we have left? I have no idea what the limit is and whether development loans count towards it. We've had a fair bit of success in the loan market before and I'd like to see us try and take advantage of it in this window as well - so long as we avoid young starlets who don't fancy the challenge of playing in League 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, squeezeboxson said: Maybe 3 years ago... I don’t think he’ll have lost his strength and aggression, which have always been his main attributes. He’s never been a player that relied on pace, so the passage of time won’t damage his game to the same extent. 17 minutes ago, Jordo1872 said: Speaking hypothetically, the signing of Nade wouldn’t be what we need. It’d be a gamble on a player who was able to do the business once upon a time but that time was some years ago, and is now injury riddled. Sound familiar? He’s played plenty of games this season... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezeboxson Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, FifeSons said: I don’t think he’ll have lost his strength and aggression, which have always been his main attributes. He’s never been a player that relied on pace, so the passage of time won’t damage his game to the same extent. He’s played plenty of games this season... It is simple. He wasn't that effective in his last 6 months with us. We missed him massively when all the stuff was happening and he was frozen out of the team. But that wasn't down to him being a good option beforehand it was down to him being the only option. Instead we brought in Iain Russell who wasn't anywhere near fit enough. There's a reason Nade is playing at the level he is and not in our league or even the league below. Edited January 13, 2019 by squeezeboxson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, squeezeboxson said: There's a reason Nade is playing at the level he is and not in our league or even the league below. Agreed, but that reason is not ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Whyte Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Excellent Jim Duffy interview on Radio Scotland today. Worth a listen on BBC Sounds for fans of all lower league clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezeboxson Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, FifeSons said: Agreed, but that reason is not ability. So what do you put it down to? He is past it. I like the guy but he should be nowhere near a side like ours right now or even league 1 level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, squeezeboxson said: So what do you put it down to? He is past it. I like the guy but he should be nowhere near a side like ours right now or even league 1 level. I think we all know the reason he’s playing Juniors is to do with his court case and nothing to do with ability. Edited January 13, 2019 by FifeSons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 FWIW, I think after yesterday’s result we’re going down anyway. Barring something miraculous from Duffy in the next three weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Flannery is having a dig on the Facebook page about not getting the job again... He’s a legend, but he doesn’t come across very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo90 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Paddy flannery with a post straight out of Stevie aitkens book for bitter messes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Surely Paddy is having a laugh. "Look what Solskjaer has done for Man Utd!! Great example of what can be achieved when you have a man at the helm who loves the club he once played for! Zero budget needed!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGD89 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Why is Paddy so bitter ? Is he pals with Stevie ? Did he even apply for the job ? Anyone got a link for Duffy interview I missed it today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 This season is definitive proof of Murphy’s law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyWilsonsMoustache Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Why is Paddy so bitter ? Is he pals with Stevie ? Did he even apply for the job ? Anyone got a link for Duffy interview I missed it today. I understand he did apply. But don't see how he possibly could be bitter about being passed over. I reckon there's been a beverage or two consumed during the Sunday games and someone didn't take his phone off him before he was let loose on Facebook! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezeboxson Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, FifeSons said: I think we all know the reason he’s playing Juniors is to do with his court case and nothing to do with ability. I don't believe that one little bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one either. If the likes of David Goodwillie can find himself playing in League 2 then Nade could too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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