Depression

[Credo67]

Lads,
Not sure if this is the thread to mention/ask this in but not sure where I’m at right now tbh…
Do any of you ever feel as if you cannot get clear headed no matter how much ‘rest’ you give yourself etc? I cannot remember the last time I woke up clear minded and ready to get on with the day. I no longer wake up and get excited about heading to the football or out with the missus.. I still go but I can’t remember the last time I was excited about anything coming up.
I used the analogy the other day of wishing my head had a tap that I could turn on to empty it and go again. Bit of a stupid turn of phrase but I don’t know how else to describe it.
Every morning I wake up and my head feels full? and I’m constantly exhausted. Sometimes it’s a real challenge to get up in the morning – purely from an exhaustion point.
I don’t think it’s a depression issue as day – to – day I’m generally OK. Sometimes get down/moody but don’t we all…
The other annoying thing is, due to feeling exhausted all the time and head all over the place, I now no longer have any motivation or feeling to go to the gym or play 5’s. Quite happy coming home from work, shower, changed and in front of the TV or boozer.
Basically, I can’t figure out if such is life or I’m facing an issue that can be corrected/helped.

Cheers lads. Not sure if the above makes any sense what so ever but it made sense to me...

hi spam
your with pals first of all [emoji106] yip I think at some point all on this thread have experienced what you are feeling so do not feel alone, was there anything that you can think off that sparked these feelings ?

[Spam_Valley]

3 hours ago, Credo67 said:

hi spam
your with pals first of all yip I think at some point all on this thread have experienced what you are feeling so do not feel alone, was there anything that you can think off that sparked these feelings ?

Thanks mate. As i say, i'm not sure what is going on but just don't feel 100%. But hopefully not alone within this thread.

I can't pinpoint what could have triggered it. Potentially my job as i utterly detest everyone in there but i've handed my notice in and should be moving on to a new and better place in a few weeks time.

[Lisa Cuddy]

2 hours ago, Spam_Valley said:

Thanks mate. As i say, i'm not sure what is going on but just don't feel 100%. But hopefully not alone within this thread.

I can't pinpoint what could have triggered it. Potentially my job as i utterly detest everyone in there but i've handed my notice in and should be moving on to a new and better place in a few weeks time.

Your doctor, without question, is the person to speak to. Yes, it could so easily be a mental health issue, but it could just as likely be physical. You describe the symptoms of someone who is anaemic, for example. This could be as simple as having a blood test and finding out you need iron tablets. It's very quick and easy to get that sorted - you can arrange that with a phone call. Even if it did turn out to be more complex than that, your doctor will want to check the simple first as it's the quickest way to get to the bottom of the issue. Good luck

[D.A.F.C]

Haven't said anything on here for a while. Still feeling a bit down sometimes having zero social life but have more or less fixed issues with neighbours and work I can live with having brought out the issue. I've never been suicidal or thought of self harming or anything but just stuck in limbo socially. One of the friends I used to hang about with has had a rough time and expected me to drop everything and see them in hospital despite them completely ignoring me when I asked for help.
Says to me I made the right decision as these people were never friends really.
Getting over the anxiety to go out and meet people is holding me back though and it seems like a vicious circle.
Still kicking the shit out of the exercise thing though.
Would recommend the interview with Tyson fury for anyone with dark thoughts. Inspirational.

[AL-FFC]

12 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

Haven't said anything on here for a while. Still feeling a bit down sometimes having zero social life but have more or less fixed issues with neighbours and work I can live with having brought out the issue. I've never been suicidal or thought of self harming or anything but just stuck in limbo socially. One of the friends I used to hang about with has had a rough time and expected me to drop everything and see them in hospital despite them completely ignoring me when I asked for help.
Says to me I made the right decision as these people were never friends really.
Getting over the anxiety to go out and meet people is holding me back though and it seems like a vicious circle.
Still kicking the shit out of the exercise thing though.
Would recommend the interview with Tyson fury for anyone with dark thoughts. Inspirational.

Have a read of a book or listen to the audio book lost connections (johann hari) some interesting things on it goes on about anti depressants basically with anti depressants and the trials they can give them to a hundred people and if 2 people show an change in mood etc its accepted as working on trial.  He then goes about the serotonin deficiency as a myth and the 3 things that aid it is nature, exercise and socialising, having to work at the socialising myself i have a handful of close friends but they all have their own lives.  Its been a week since my last meltdown (couldnt stop crying) but since then i am exercising every day and doing my best to try and meditate and have notice a change in my mood and feeling better about things.

Still have a few life changes i need to make but feeling better about it now than i was a week ago.

[Dons_1988]

13 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

Haven't said anything on here for a while. Still feeling a bit down sometimes having zero social life but have more or less fixed issues with neighbours and work I can live with having brought out the issue. I've never been suicidal or thought of self harming or anything but just stuck in limbo socially. One of the friends I used to hang about with has had a rough time and expected me to drop everything and see them in hospital despite them completely ignoring me when I asked for help.
Says to me I made the right decision as these people were never friends really.
Getting over the anxiety to go out and meet people is holding me back though and it seems like a vicious circle.
Still kicking the shit out of the exercise thing though.
Would recommend the interview with Tyson fury for anyone with dark thoughts. Inspirational.

I used to think Tyson Fury was a complete weapon but he's become a bit of a hero of mine in the past year. Could relate to so much stuff he said in relation to how down he was, how fat he got, and how he's made it back. Could draw a lot of comparisons to myself and listen to him a lot.

I totally get the stuff about being in limbo, I've felt that before and can feel it creeping into my work life too. I suppose if you can the best thing to do is identify the cause of it and set goals to improve it and just attack them. I've realised that I don't have to have everything resolved, in fact that's impossible, I just need to get to the end of everyday feeling like I've moved forward a bit in pursuing my goals, even if it's just setting a clear goal that day. 

Exercise has been the absolute foundation of that too, so I'd keep that up no matter what.

[VladimirMooc]

2 hours ago, AL-FFC said:

Have a read of a book or listen to the audio book lost connections (johann hari) some interesting things on it goes on about anti depressants basically with anti depressants and the trials they can give them to a hundred people and if 2 people show an change in mood etc its accepted as working on trial.  He then goes about the serotonin deficiency as a myth and the 3 things that aid it is nature, exercise and socialising, having to work at the socialising myself i have a handful of close friends but they all have their own lives.  Its been a week since my last meltdown (couldnt stop crying) but since then i am exercising every day and doing my best to try and meditate and have notice a change in my mood and feeling better about things.

Still have a few life changes i need to make but feeling better about it now than i was a week ago.

I’d be careful about taking anything that Johann Hari says seriously or even about recommending people listen to him, especially on issues as important as this. He isn’t a medical expert and he’s also a proven charlatan (fired from the Guardian for plagiarism). 

[RH33]

Yup, I’d agree. Medicines aren’t approved on back of two positive outcomes. 

[AL-FFC]

55 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

I’d be careful about taking anything that Johann Hari says seriously or even about recommending people listen to him, especially on issues as important as this. He isn’t a medical expert and he’s also a proven charlatan (fired from the Guardian for plagiarism). 

Hadnt looked into his background, like i say took on board the exercise bit and trying to meditate more,  need to wait to get home to connect with nature but it seems to work for me in lifting the mood, its a case of whatever works to keep it at bay and a week into changing things its been ok so far.

[VladimirMooc]

30 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

Hadnt looked into his background, like i say took on board the exercise bit and trying to meditate more,  need to wait to get home to connect with nature but it seems to work for me in lifting the mood, its a case of whatever works to keep it at bay and a week into changing things its been ok so far.

Didn’t mean it to come across as a pop at you, apologies if it read as that. I just wouldn’t want anyone to be put off medication if that’s what the medical advice is. Delighted to hear your mood is lifting and that’s working for you, and I hope it continues to. All the best. 

[AL-FFC]

25 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

Didn’t mean it to come across as a pop at you, apologies if it read as that. I just wouldn’t want anyone to be put off medication if that’s what the medical advice is. Delighted to hear your mood is lifting and that’s working for you, and I hope it continues to. All the best. 

Think the part that actually stuck out about it was the disconnections and the links between life events i.e. stuck in meaningless job, bereavements, events in the past, loneliness etc which have affected mental health if you get my drift.

[Robin.Hood]

16 days mum has been in carsview. Currently typing this while I'm in Salou but when I get a moment to myself it really is shit. Have phoned to keep up to date on how she is and she is getting better but what I've found ( only from my own mums stints in carsview) is seems to be harder when she is on a low rather than being on a high.
She has had plenty visitors which I think has helped quite a bit and when she does eventually get out it's just to keep this carrying on.
It's a weird feeling though for myself as even though I'm on holiday I really dont wanna come back.
Meh see what happens when i get back tomorrow

[Silverton End]

3 hours ago, G_Man1985 said:

16 days mum has been in carsview. Currently typing this while I'm in Salou but when I get a moment to myself it really is shit. Have phoned to keep up to date on how she is and she is getting better but what I've found ( only from my own mums stints in carsview) is seems to be harder when she is on a low rather than being on a high.
She has had plenty visitors which I think has helped quite a bit and when she does eventually get out it's just to keep this carrying on.
It's a weird feeling though for myself as even though I'm on holiday I really dont wanna come back.
Meh see what happens when i get back tomorrow

Hope it all goes well for you

[mizfit]

Off the phone to a work counsellor who has suggested I need to go to the doctors about my mental health ASAP.

Just booked the appointment and I am nervous.

[Derry Alli]

*Again, I apologise. I'm not saying I'm depressed, I just need to vent*

Met a really nice lassie, she's far too keen though so I binned her. I never told her she wasn't what I was looking for, I just totally blanked her. My mates have (rightly) had a go as its a dick move but it is what it is. I was all set to give it a go but (last post) got in touch and I just totally closed off. I've went into work the past fortnight and asked for a redundancy twice. The work are taking the piss and me (least service, 10 years)  the only one basically standing up to it. I get pished (now) - this isn't a problem - and pit my life against my brother. There's a massive amount I could write here about that and etc but it's a can I won't open. I just don't know where I'm going, truth be told. The past year money has become irrelavent, as said in savings topic. Made more money than I could ever need, majority went up beak. I'd easily drop £6/7k to just get a job I enjoy. 

Again, sorry for venting but I love just writing it out and feel a lot lighter after pressing post. Love you c***s. 

[8MileBU]

*Again, I apologise. I'm not saying I'm depressed, I just need to vent*
Met a really nice lassie, she's far too keen though so I binned her. I never told her she wasn't what I was looking for, I just totally blanked her. My mates have (rightly) had a go as its a dick move but it is what it is. I was all set to give it a go but (last post) got in touch and I just totally closed off. I've went into work the past fortnight and asked for a redundancy twice. The work are taking the piss and me (least service, 10 years)  the only one basically standing up to it. I get pished (now) - this isn't a problem - and pit my life against my brother. There's a massive amount I could write here about that and etc but it's a can I won't open. I just don't know where I'm going, truth be told. The past year money has become irrelavent, as said in savings topic. Made more money than I could ever need, majority went up beak. I'd easily drop £6/7k to just get a job I enjoy. 
Again, sorry for venting but I love just writing it out and feel a lot lighter after pressing post. Love you c***s. 

As short and blunt as it this may seem, (and I get there’s more to it than this), but it’d be interesting to see how much better you felt if you stopped hoovering stuff up your beak.

Ching’s utter shite mate and fucked up so many decent folk.

[Derry Alli]

Yeah, I know it's a horrible thing and I tell every youngster I see on it to kick it before it's too late. It's my coping mechanism though. 

[Dons_1988]

Yeah, I know it's a horrible thing and I tell every youngster I see on it to kick it before it's too late. It's my coping mechanism though. 

Being presumptuous but sounds a bit like an ‘it’s too late for me’ attitude.

Don’t give yourself that cop out, you can bin it and it will make you feel better. I used to convince myself beer was a good way of coping too.

[Hedgecutter]

Many thanks [mention=57451]Daydream[/mention] [mention=73487]NJ2[/mention] for the replies, really appreciated.  I do have mates down here, but not close friends who I could have a heart to heart with if needs be.  The situation is somewhat complicated as my partner suffers with depression and anxiety herself. In the past she has dealt with suicidal thoughts. She has such a low view of herself, I worry that if I was to go home, she might do something. Whilst I know I can't stop my own life, it does fill me with dread. 

I am going to make a point of speaking to her about it, because I can't continue living like this, it's not fair on either of us. 

 I'm in a kind of similar position to be honest. Over the past few years all my close friends have gradually migrated Down South or onto the continent, and even the pub mates are now all family people that you need to book two months in advance (which is understandable tbf). I'm pretty busy with work, but it feels like the rut of seeing nobody other than my other half. If it wasn't for her then it would be a very lonely existence just now.

 Thing is, if I move away to wherever I want (I'm now self employed and can do this if I wanted) then I'd be dragging my other half away from her job, friends and family, which would put her in exactly the same situation.

 

Off the phone to a work counsellor who has suggested I need to go to the doctors about my mental health ASAP. Just booked the appointment and I am nervous.  

 I remember this when I booked my GP appointment and it was the best thing I could possibly have done. Thing was that once I sat in that chair, I just couldn't answer the question "how can I help you today?" and sat there for a few minutes in silence afraid to admit it all, in turn worried I was now wasting NHS time. Finally uttered a few words and must admit I kind of broke down seeing as it was the first time I had ever spoken about it face to face with somebody.

For whatever reason, I can kind of deal with it (and deaths) in my head, but as soon as I say it to somebody out loud, it hits really, really hard, possibly because it becomes real.

[8MileBU]

Yeah, I know it's a horrible thing and I tell every youngster I see on it to kick it before it's too late. It's my coping mechanism though. 

Sometimes it’s not even a case of having to kick it. Even just that one weekend binge on it can trigger all sorts of negative and longer lasting mental effects once that shite has wore off. ‘Blue Monday’ and all that...