Borys Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The way Agentina relegates teams from its top flight is of a simplicity comparable with the Belgian league's format In simplest terms - a team stays up or goes down/into the play-out on its average from the last three seasons. A team which after 18 out of 19 games may yet win the Clausura - i.e. Tigre: 1 Arsenal S. played 18 points 35 2 Tigre played 18 points 35 3 Boca Juniors played 18 points 33 4 Newells Old Boys played 18 points 31 if it fails to win the competition may end up relegated instead: 16ºTigre average p/g 1,274 144pts 113games 17ºAtlético de Rafaela average p/g 1,270 47pts 37games If Tigre looses and Atletico win their last matches, Tigre goes into the playout and will face the 4th team in the 2nd Division. Borys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Crazy Argentinians How long has this madness been going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The Irish used to be as bad, well, almost. I posted in the ttrivia thread eons ago about a club who had to lose their last game to stay up , a draw or win sent them down. They lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatwad Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 It's been seen as a way to keeping the "big names" in the top flight, that obviously went up in smoke when River Plate were relegated last year. Next season they plan to keep the average point system but will be moving to a system where the team finishing top after each 19 game half doesn't win a championship, it's going to be over 38 games instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan-bufc Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The Irish used to be as bad, well, almost. I posted in the ttrivia thread eons ago about a club who had to lose their last game to stay up , a draw or win sent them down. They lost Surely that cant be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The system's actually very simple once you get your head around it. Whether it's fair or not is another thing entirely. River may be coming back up. They're currently top, but the top four places in the Primera B are really, really tight: http://www.soccerway.com/national/argentina/prim-b-nacional/2011-2012/regular-season/ I reckon River and Institutio will both win at the weekend and go up. Central looked like stick-ons recently but absolutely blew it. I can see them blowing the play-off as well and spending their third consecutive season in the second tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Surely that cant be right? Took a while but found it, takes a bit to get your head round though Quote Let's hand things over to Ciaran Grant: "This put me in mind of when the Irish League decided to split in two in order to form the Irish Premier League during the 1990s. It was decided that the eight best teams would be decided by taking their average league position over the course of two seasons. Roll on the final day of the season in April 1995. Coleraine and Bangor both shared 8th position on average and both had local derbies to play against Ballymena and Ards respectively. Coleraine had the upper hand as they were in 7th position and Bangor were 11th. "What the IFA hadn't thought of, though, was this: Ards were one point behind Coleraine so if Coleraine failed to win their match and Ards won against Bangor then Ards would move above Coleraine pushing their average down slightly, meaning Bangor would have a better average and it would be them that would go into the new Premier League. And guess what – this is exactly what happened. At half time Ards lead Bangor 1-0 and Coleraine v Ballymena was scoreless. In the second half Ards scored again (to the cheers of the Bangor fans) and ran out 2-0 winners. If I recall correctly Bangor didnt exactly try in the second half. Coleraine and Ballymena ended 0-0 and thus although Bangor lost it was they that stayed in the top flight." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 ........and some of you want to hand over The Falklands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 ........and some of you want to hand over The Falklands! If I mind the last time the Falklands were in that division, it was FC Belgrano that slipped down a few leagues...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If I mind the last time the Falklands were in that division, it was FC Belgrano that slipped down a few leagues...... Aye, a bit like the new Rangers submarine......Heard there was 20,000 leagues under the sea. So thought one was bound to let them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonMan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And some people say the split is bad here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And some people say the split is bad here... Yeah, you should see the one in Hajduk..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah, you should see the one in Hajduk..... Split's the city, Hajduk's the name. Good effort though, A+++++++ would read again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Split's the city, Hajduk's the name. Good effort though, A+++++++ would read again I believe the standard response is..... 'yer maw' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The system's actually very simple once you get your head around it. Whether it's fair or not is another thing entirely. This. When the whole River Plate situation came about last season I read all about it. It's not actually that tough to understand, and neither's the Belgian one. People just need to take the time to read about it. Split's the city, Hajduk's the name. Good effort though, A+++++++ would read again Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borys Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 This. When the whole River Plate situation came about last season I read all about it. It's not actually that tough to understand, and neither's the Belgian one. People just need to take the time to read about it. I know, I know. It's just that there are people who can't grasp how the Scottish split works ... Bortys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I know, I know. It's just that there are people who can't grasp how the Scottish split works ... Bortys Have they been confined in a secure unit for testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsjfc Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Such a careless thread. 4th July 2012 "The SPL would like to announce that Rangers will continue in the SPL but with a hefty 60 point reduction. We would also like to take this opportunity to unveil our exciting new relegation system.........." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Slight inaccuracy in the OP, Tigre can win (thus guaranteeing at worst a title play off) and as long as Rafaela win, their average will jump above Tigre's (due to less games played thus the extra 3 points makes more of a change), so Tigre could be involved in playoffs for the title AND to stay up. How they would schedule them all in, I'm not so sure. etc: "would" to "could" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borys Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 Slight inaccuracy in the OP, Tigre can win (thus guaranteeing at worst a title play off) and as long as Rafaela win, their average will jump above Tigre's (due to less games played thus the extra 3 points makes more of a change), so Tigre could be involved in playoffs for the title AND to stay up. How they would schedule them all in, I'm not so sure. etc: "would" to "could" Thank you for claryfing /expanding my post. I overlooked the different numbers of games of the two. Borys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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