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5 minutes ago, Rob1885 said:
45 minutes ago, Scottydog said:
When Vaughan went to Dumbarton Rovers weren't struggling and were in fact nearer the top of the table where as Dumbarton were toiling nearer the bottom, could be wrong but I'm fairly sure we were about 10 or 12 points clear of them at that stage. If anything this move is the polar opposite.....but equally baffling.
I can understand a manager not fancying a player and wanting rid of them (Yogi has previous here, ask Bobby Barr) to free up a wage but realistically who is (a) available, (b) any better and willing to join the circus currently running at EEP?
Finding a prolific goalscorer is hard at the best of times, never mind when you're desperate.

Time will tell but I don't think he'll be letting just Wighton go in order to get another forward. I'd imagine other areas of recruitment are more important. Now down to 3 strikers for 1 starting place.

I quite like Hughes but 1 striker especially in this league is fuckin grim. Especially when he came in the door with so much good firepower for this level 

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If you're a striker looking for a move and Dunfermline come in for you. Looking at a bench with 3 strikers who rarely even get game time at the bottom of the league having been pumped off the next closest team 5-0 would really excite ya! 

I'll say we won't bring any players of note in. 

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1 hour ago, Scottydog said:

When Vaughan went to Dumbarton Rovers weren't struggling and were in fact nearer the top of the table where as Dumbarton were toiling nearer the bottom, could be wrong but I'm fairly sure we were about 10 or 12 points clear of them at that stage. If anything this move is the polar opposite.....but equally baffling.

I can understand a manager not fancying a player and wanting rid of them (Yogi has previous here, ask Bobby Barr) to free up a wage but realistically who is (a) available, (b) any better and willing to join the circus currently running at EEP?

Finding a prolific goalscorer is hard at the best of times, never mind when you're desperate.

Raith were only four points clear of Dumbarton at the time, this was the table.

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You can look at that table and say that at the time it was more credible to view Raith as promotion playoff contenders with the game in hand and gap to 9th, but they were also seven games without a win at this point. I'm sure it was pretty widely commented on here at the time that the most insane thing about it was that Dumbarton were a potential relegation rival.

If Wighton wasn't going to get a game at Dunfermline anyway, letting him go to Arbroath where he might score goals against Ayr, Queen of the South and Morton is considerably less crazy than giving him directly to one of those relegation rivals. The ridiculous thing is him not getting a game in the first place while they f**k about with Lewis McCann.

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Aye, the only similarities are that it's a player going on loan to a club in the same league. Arbroath picking up points through Wighton only stands to benefit Dunfermline (and of course, Arbroath). The Vaughan loan was met with widespread confusion. Even the Dumbarton fans felt it was insane to swap him for (at that point) a far worse player in Stevenson. It's an unusual move from Dunfermline given that they don't have a decent goalscorer, but Wighton has probably been unhappy with his game time and might have been told opportunities are limited. 

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That reminder that St Mirren were rooted to the bottom like that gives you a wee boost that things can change pretty drastically in the second half of the season. Then again, you remember how fucking rotten this club is now from top to bottom and realise that any positive change is highly unlikely.

As shite as we’ve been all season, I’ve never been convinced that we’ll be relegated. I am now though, and anything but 3 points today means I won’t be convinced otherwise. We’re fucked.

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33 minutes ago, smpar said:

That reminder that St Mirren were rooted to the bottom like that gives you a wee boost that things can change pretty drastically in the second half of the season. Then again, you remember how fucking rotten this club is now from top to bottom and realise that any positive change is highly unlikely.

As shite as we’ve been all season, I’ve never been convinced that we’ll be relegated. I am now though, and anything but 3 points today means I won’t be convinced otherwise. We’re fucked.

St Mirren were able to bring in a whole load of players whilst moving a whole load on. Think it was about 10 in and 10 out. A few of those were loans (in and out) too. Also, they were able to sell two of the outgoing ones and none of the ones coming in were for a fee.

They signed players throughout the month, although had three in and three out by this stage.

Sadly our situation is far too different to emulate them.

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24 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

St Mirren were able to bring in a whole load of players whilst moving a whole load on. Think it was about 10 in and 10 out. A few of those were loans (in and out) too. Also, they were able to sell two of the outgoing ones and none of the ones coming in were for a fee.

They signed players throughout the month, although had three in and three out by this stage.

Sadly our situation is far too different to emulate them.

It also isn't as bad, points wise anyway. 

 

Dom Thomas coming back will help, hopefully. Get him on one wing, Lawless on the other and things don't look as bad. 

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I said a couple days ago that this had Lewis Vaughan vibes and you disagreed. We sent our most talented striker out on loan when we were struggling at (near) the bottom of the league. Granted, Wighton's not gone to a trapdoor rival but surely to christ he'd be better scoring goals for you (yes I know he doesnt currently get a game) than for some other mob. We were horrendously mismanaged at the time and you are now / have been all season. Both scenarios complete madness. Pretty strong vibes I'd say.

You’re still ignoring the major difference that I pointed out at the time - he isn’t going to a relegation rival. Any goal that he scores will either help us (by scoring against another team near the bottom), or have no impact on us. With Lewis Vaughan, every goal he scored directly helped a relegation rival. Surely that’s east to understand?

I still acknowledged it would be horrendous business from us, but it’s not Lewis Vaughan level of horrendous decision making. There are an alarming number of similarities with 2016/17 Raith Rovers though and I’m kind of resigned to relegation now. Didn’t even try and get a ticket for today. The manager/board/players aren’t doing anything to try and avoid relegation/turn the club around, so I’m not wasting my time on it.

Wighton should be playing for us - he actually scored in the abandoned Killie game, which is more than any other player has contributed since. He should certainly be ahead of McCann in the pecking order. But Yogi is playing anyone who came through our youth system and/or Fife Elite ahead of better players, regardless of performance levels/ability.
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25 minutes ago, Grant228 said:

It also isn't as bad, points wise anyway. 

 

Dom Thomas coming back will help, hopefully. Get him on one wing, Lawless on the other and things don't look as bad. 

Not confident Hughes would do that unfortunately. Would/should help if he did. He should have Dow and Lawless on the wings today but won't.

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18 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Not confident Hughes would do that unfortunately. Would/should help if he did. He should have Dow and Lawless on the wings today but won't.

Aye, truthfully I think we're fucked tbh. 

 

 

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Regardless of who is available, he’ll continue to play these shite tactics with his favourite “young loddies”

He’s a tube. He has time but he is just going to continue to waste it, let’s not kid ourselves here. We are going down without a fight.

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Regardless of who is available, he’ll continue to play these shite tactics with his favourite “young loddies”

He’s a tube. He has time but he is just going to continue to waste it, let’s not kid ourselves here. We are going down without a fight.

100% agree with this. I don’t think that I’ve ever seen a manager stick with the same players, regardless of results/performance. Not in the modern game anyway, with large squads. Failing to score in 5/7 games, but sticking with the same striker and freezing out strikers who have played well at this level before. Playing a midfield system that just doesn’t ever look like it could even possibly work and a style of play that means our goal is constantly under threat when our defenders/midfielders have the ball in our half, passing it around aimlessly.

Play a system that suits the players, don’t try and ask poor players to play a system/style that doesn’t work for them at all. Use tactics that give the team a chance of getting a result, rather than tactics that you’ve seen Man City play the week before. This is the Scottish championship, games are a battle and you need to fight for points. We have no players up for a battle and are outfought every week. But if we stick with it, teams might take pity on us - is that the idea?
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John Hughes already blaming the players is just top notch.

On the radio right now saying, 'I can make us hard to beat, I can make sure they're prepared, but the actual results are down to the players. It's out of my hands.'

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The difference in performance compared to last week and this week was incredible. We still need a central midfield, however the signs today were encouraging.

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Matt Todd just doesn't have what it takes. He did ok but that's being kind. When he gets the ball, any momentum just evaporates. 
Same with Pybus, absolutely zero eye for a pass whatsoever.

Good result and much better performance. Lawless was brilliant apart from some dead ball deliveries. Mccann really good first half. Best I've seen Comrie this season. Donaldson looked competent as well.

As for the goal, see what happens when you actually put a meaningful ball into the box.
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