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8 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

I know they can sometimes be a bit strict on Red Zones but asking away FANS to change is taking it a bit far. 

To be fair I changed from delighted to raging in stoppage time on Saturday.

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

It's presumably less of an issue in this league since no team is ever going to sell out their ground.

Less of one maybe,  but the way we have things currently at east end has created a problem for larger away supports.  We're potentially having a sold out away end for the derby(north east already sold out,  main stand wing can be used, but not a particularly big area, and somewhere police don't like us using for rowdier supports as the segregation is far more loose.(shared facilities etc)  If things are still in place 

We could move home fans but that's going to piss people off when tensions are already high. 

These things will cost clubs financially.

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1 hour ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

I know they can sometimes be a bit strict on Red Zones but asking away FANS to change is taking it a bit far. 

I think it might be a good introduction tbh. Hold on ref, I'm just getting my shouty booing overalls on.

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

There wasn't a jibe intended, we certainly aren't going to sell out Rugby Park - even if it's a title decider I can't imagine more than 10-12k - and I think games at Somerset Park rarely reach capacity.

I was more meaning in comparison to the Premiership, where the scrapping of the red zone requirements allowed, for example, Rangers to have a pretty close to capacity crowd against Hearts at the weekend.

I think you're missing the point though. Or I am, not sure?

I'm not sure what Red Zone requirements will have changed at Rangers and why the crowd capacity would have changed one iota between the Hearts game and whatever game was before it? Red Zones have nothing to do with crowds directly, though at most smaller grounds they will have a knock on effect. For instance, although we have 6 dressing rooms inside the stadium at Palmerston and therefore visiting clubs and match officials are able to get changed in an actual dressing room instead of in a converted bar, enabling secure access to the ones the Away team use means closing one and a half sections of the BDS Digital Stand and therefore limiting away capacity. Likewise the need to accommodate socially distanced subs under cover has required the closure of the Main Stand. Neither of those factors are presumably an issue at Ibrox and if they were then they still will be unless both Hearts and match officials voluntarily waived their rights to insist on them (which would be very surprising).

I've been in the away dressing room at Ibrox. It's massive. There's plenty of room for socially distanced changing for a squad in there. They keep a zone for unstripped players etc behind the subs bench anyway which isn't included in the match ticket sales. Socially distancing subs isn't going to change the capacity one bit either. I don't know what will have actually changed at Ibrox since the JRG announcment?

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5 hours ago, The Moonster said:

He's surely only fit for the glue factory now?

It's almost as if I have a vested interest in keeping a team worse than one led by Gus McPherson between now and May. 

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31 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:

Seems bizarre that Peter Grant’s pre-match comments don’t even mention the decision to release Paul Watson.

Nah why would it? He's gone, focus on the boys that are sticking around. Can't put that one at his door.

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55 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

Nah why would it? He's gone, focus on the boys that are sticking around. Can't put that one at his door.

I’m not blaming Grant in the slightest.

However, a first team player was bombed out without so much as a good luck and no journalist asked a question about it?

It’s far more interesting than Grant’s musings on Hamilton-Thistle so either the journos aren’t very good or the OS omitted the quotes from their article.

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17 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:

I’m not blaming Grant in the slightest.

However, a first team player was bombed out without so much as a good luck and no journalist asked a question about it?

It’s far more interesting than Grant’s musings on Hamilton-Thistle so either the journos aren’t very good or the OS omitted the quotes from their article.

He's been asked, he's saying nothing. 

 

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4 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said:

I think you're missing the point though. Or I am, not sure?

I'm not sure what Red Zone requirements will have changed at Rangers and why the crowd capacity would have changed one iota between the Hearts game and whatever game was before it? Red Zones have nothing to do with crowds directly, though at most smaller grounds they will have a knock on effect. For instance, although we have 6 dressing rooms inside the stadium at Palmerston and therefore visiting clubs and match officials are able to get changed in an actual dressing room instead of in a converted bar, enabling secure access to the ones the Away team use means closing one and a half sections of the BDS Digital Stand and therefore limiting away capacity. Likewise the need to accommodate socially distanced subs under cover has required the closure of the Main Stand. Neither of those factors are presumably an issue at Ibrox and if they were then they still will be unless both Hearts and match officials voluntarily waived their rights to insist on them (which would be very surprising).

I've been in the away dressing room at Ibrox. It's massive. There's plenty of room for socially distanced changing for a squad in there. They keep a zone for unstripped players etc behind the subs bench anyway which isn't included in the match ticket sales. Socially distancing subs isn't going to change the capacity one bit either. I don't know what will have actually changed at Ibrox since the JRG announcment?


Prior to the announcement they were unable to sell a bunch of seats around the benches because the players and staff were having to use them to remain distanced and have a buffer between themselves and the fans. They (and Celtic) were using that as an excuse not to allow away fans in, on the premise that they were using the away end to accommodate the fans moved for these red zones.

After the JRG announcement they no longer have that space around the dugouts and therefore away fans returned.

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54 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


Prior to the announcement they were unable to sell a bunch of seats around the benches because the players and staff were having to use them to remain distanced and have a buffer between themselves and the fans. They (and Celtic) were using that as an excuse not to allow away fans in, on the premise that they were using the away end to accommodate the fans moved for these red zones.

After the JRG announcement they no longer have that space around the dugouts and therefore away fans returned.

I guess with hearts having the incentive of getting away fans in they would be more willing to not demand a away red zone.

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48 minutes ago, Raith Against The Machine said:

If we're going to use "Benoit" as a verb, I'm not sure "pretending someone didn't exist" is the immediate act that springs to mind. 

Which, of course, is why I added “from the history books” so that no one could possibly be confused by the reference.

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3 hours ago, craigkillie said:


Prior to the announcement they were unable to sell a bunch of seats around the benches because the players and staff were having to use them to remain distanced and have a buffer between themselves and the fans. They (and Celtic) were using that as an excuse not to allow away fans in, on the premise that they were using the away end to accommodate the fans moved for these red zones.

After the JRG announcement they no longer have that space around the dugouts and therefore away fans returned.

Mmm, pretty sceptical that the JRG announcement is really at the root of that or that Hearts would have agreed to assume the extra risk but what parsforlife said below is possible I suppose

2 hours ago, parsforlife said:

I guess with hearts having the incentive of getting away fans in they would be more willing to not demand a away red zone.

 

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14 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

Seems bizarre that Peter Grant’s pre-match comments don’t even mention the decision to release Paul Watson.

He has so many defenders he probably can’t remember all of their names.

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