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Looking back on this thread around the 28th May, when Grant was appointed, and we aren’t at all surprised at how it’s turned out. How can a group of guys on the internet know he’s going be a total disaster, but the people making the most important decisions at this football club be completely unaware.

The one thing that did make me laugh was Rob1885 getting sticky knickers at the sight of Grant wearing a Pars tie and jacket.
I'm a sucker for a well dressed man.
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On 18/07/2021 at 18:28, Cardle is Magic said:

Ross Graham produced a very enjoyable performance. Did not look like a youngster at all and can see why United see potential in him.

 

On 18/07/2021 at 19:20, Rob1885 said:

Ross Graham, Edwards and McDonald were all superb yesterday

 

On 18/07/2021 at 12:00, Chubbychops said:

 Looking at the defence, I thought Ross Graham was so impressive. Yeah, he made a mistake for the goal, but I think he looks a really good prospect. Comfortable on the ball and physically impressive at his age. Think he will go far in the game.

 

 

58 minutes ago, smpar said:

Looking back on this thread around the 28th May, when Grant was appointed, and we aren’t at all surprised at how it’s turned out. How can a group of guys on the internet know he’s going be a total disaster, but the people making the most important decisions at this football club be completely unaware.

The one thing that did make me laugh was Rob1885 getting sticky knickers at the sight of Grant wearing a Pars tie and jacket.

I had a scroll back and found the above takes on Ross Graham's early appearances...

I suppose as football supporters we've all been taken in by early season optimism at some point or another.

 

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3 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

 

 

 

I had a scroll back and found the above takes on Ross Graham's early appearances...

I suppose as football supporters we've all been taken in by early season optimism at some point or another.

 

Think that was after we beat a Covid struck Dumbarton 5-1. Ross Graham can look excellent until he has to defend. I see that he caused a goal that day too. Little did we know what was to come.

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8 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

I had a scroll back and found the above takes on Ross Graham's early appearances...

I suppose as football supporters we've all been taken in by early season optimism at some point or another.

He played well in that game. He’s been absolutely atrocious ever since.

Not sure the point you were trying to make?

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I had a scroll back and found the above takes on Ross Graham's early appearances...
I suppose as football supporters we've all been taken in by early season optimism at some point or another.
 
He was good that day. I'm not going to revise that thought process.
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I'll word it better, would you be calling for the new manager to be sacked after just 4 league games in charge if he hadn't said he was going for the title?

The issue isn’t so much the one point from 4 games, as much as the manner of the defeats/performances. We scraped a draw against Morton, where we seemed lucky to escape with a point. We then played our next 3 league games and have been 2-0 down at some point before half time in every single one and have never even looked remotely competitive. On paper, you could argue that you couldn’t really ask for an easier/better start in terms of fixtures. But we haven’t just struggled, we’ve looked like 17/18 Brechin City.

As I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t think the reaction/mood would be this bad if it just wasn’t ‘clicking’ yet, or if there were signs of progress. Unfortunately though, we’ve made the same mistakes and left the same gaps every single game. The manager’s interviews are also a huge issue, where he comes across as a deluded moron and refuses to accept any responsibility. I don’t know if you’re aware, but he’s publicly said that tactics don’t win or lose games, it’s the players that do. Leaves me questioning what he thinks his job is. He also repeatedly says that the players look great in training and this week, he has finally acknowledged “unfortunately, you’ve got an opponent playing against you, trying to beat you as well”. Seriously, read/listen to some of his interviews and you will understand why we have no time for him.

I can already tell you where Inverness will find joy on Saturday. When you get the ball, aim for either wing and you’ll find acres of space and a CB will have to come out of position, then nobody will know what their jobs are at all. Likewise, if you ask Duku to stick with Ross Graham all game, he will enjoy a very very easy game. You will have the freedom of midfield, as we have nobody who will bother defending/putting in challenges. Despite Grant hanging Thomas out to dry, I haven’t seen any midfielders look interested in that side of the game. Out of possession, put pressure on our defenders/keeper and you won’t need to worry about our attacking players. The guys who are supposed to be playing it out from the back aren’t capable of it at all.
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kinda get what he's saying in that we moved the ball about reasonably well for decent chunks of the game and that there were massive individual errors for all three goals but it's not exactly the sort of thing he should be saying. Even if he'd said "I wasn't pleased with the overall performance or the result on Saturday but there were certain elements that showed signs of improvement" or "the players were doing well in some aspects of what I'm asking them to do but we need to make sure the team does everything I ask of them and not just little bits here and there" you could see some sort of sense to it but the actual quote is very Brentish. 

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So, perhaps just to get the fears up, what happens if PG gets a dead cat bounce Saturday and guides the Pats to a victory? Yes, I realize how unlikely that is, but has he burned so many bridges that he cannot effectively remain as Pars manager…or would an insane run of wins change the thinking? What would it take, if it’s even possible, for PG to ride this out?

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6 minutes ago, TxRover said:

So, perhaps just to get the fears up, what happens if PG gets a dead cat bounce Saturday and guides the Pats to a victory? Yes, I realize how unlikely that is, but has he burned so many bridges that he cannot effectively remain as Pars manager…or would an insane run of wins change the thinking? What would it take, if it’s even possible, for PG to ride this out?

Changing formation to something that will get the best out of the squad available.

Dropping Ross Graham (it's awful singling out one player, especially a young one but he's conceding goals or goalscoring opportunities at least once or twice a game).

Playing players in their favoured positions.

Admitting he was wrong to try and implement a system on the team when they weren't suited to it and/or that it's more important to have a solid base and win football matches than try to build some sort of "philosophy". 

 

But I can't see any of that, or a home win, on the horizon for Saturday. 

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Utd fan in peace here. The coaches here think a lot of Ross Graham and see a bright future. How has he been getting on for you guys?


Arguably the worst centre half I’ve seen at Dunfermline in the 24 years I’ve been going. Take him back.
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7 minutes ago, TxRover said:

So, perhaps just to get the fears up, what happens if PG gets a dead cat bounce Saturday and guides the Pats to a victory? Yes, I realize how unlikely that is, but has he burned so many bridges that he cannot effectively remain as Pars manager…or would an insane run of wins change the thinking? What would it take, if it’s even possible, for PG to ride this out?

Win on Saturday and pick up 7 points at least in the games against Hamilton and your lot. 

He shouldn't be the manager though regardless. Everyone can see how awful it is. He has made a rod for his own back with the title chat, and we are already out of the running for the title. 

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Grant has players trying to do things they cannot do. We don’t have the keeper or defenders to pass it about the back. We must have the 2 worst professional keepers in football. Thomas has never played CM in his puff. Basic management. How this clown hasn’t been punted yet is a disgrace from the board, who are also making a right arse of it.

All this talk of walk outs, I don’t get it. Just don’t turn up! Im giving it a complete miss after the past 4 league games, which have been nothing short of embarrassing, not wasting my time travelling to it this week.

Could be toxic on sat from the off, however I feel those that do bother to go should support the team (until it goes tits up) as it seems some are going full in right some the off.

I hope we do better, however won’t hold my breath with this mutant in charge

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You've got to admire the loyalty of the Dunfermline Board towards their manager, they know that he will turn things around before long. I remember when Man Utd fans were baying for Alex Ferguson's blood and look what happened to them!

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22 minutes ago, JessieField said:

You've got to admire the loyalty of the Dunfermline Board towards their manager, they know that he will turn things around before long. I remember when Man Utd fans were baying for Alex Ferguson's blood and look what happened to them!

Scudbook alert!!!!!

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I’d have serious, serious concerns if the board were reluctant to sack Grant because he *might* win us the Champions League in 15 years.

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