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St Johnstone have a smaller fan base, but that's about it. We're have fallen far behind them in them last 15 years in all other aspects.

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6 minutes ago, Chubbychops said:

St Johnstone have a smaller fan base, but that's about it. We're have fallen far behind them in them last 15 years in all other aspects.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Our stupid signing policy in the 00s which nearly killed us really has set us back. Look at teams that have done so much better than us in the past decade whilst we fell behind, out-with a good season in 2011.

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Have any of you read the interview? The headline is intentionally misleading, to draw attention and get people to talk about/read the article.

Basically, he says we’re as big as them but he sees us as being bigger. Talks about wanting to replicate their sustained success and build a similar environment, where they recruit players based on their style of play. Also goes onto talk about the importance of the training ground/academy. It’s a very short quote, that was part of him basically saying there’s no reason we can’t aspire to the standard St Johnstone are at just now. We just need to keep making small steps on the way there.

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30 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

It's a ridiculous and patently false statement, and I fail to see what it's based on other than we were quite good for a few years over half a century ago.

It's also utterly meaningless. 

He also goes on to talk about taking up to where Davidson has taken Saints, it's fairly "click baity" as like you say bigger means f**k all in football. Im sure plenty folk would say Sunderland and a bigger club than many others in the English championship but it doesn't matter when they are continuously horrific.

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1 minute ago, CallumPar said:

Have any of you read the interview? The headline is intentionally misleading, to draw attention and get people to talk about/read the article.

Basically, he says we’re as big as them but he sees us as being bigger. Talks about wanting to replicate their sustained success and build a similar environment, where they recruit players based on their style of play. Also goes onto talk about the importance of the training ground/academy. It’s a very short quote, that was part of him basically saying there’s no reason we can’t aspire to the standard St Johnstone are at just now. We just need to keep making small steps on the way there.

Aye spot on.
I really liked the interview and admired his ambition, I'd like to see a lot more of that around the club. St Johnstone are exactly the kind of club we should be looking to emulate.

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As I said a few weeks back on the St Johnstone thread, they're a bit of an anomaly.  The revenue they get from non-football events is wild.  It's why they rarely lose their best players due to being able to offer them good contract extensions and are so consistently successful because of it, whether it's winning trophies or qualifying for Europe.

Trying to 'emulate' St Johnstone is a bit of a ref herring as it's basically impossible for other clubs to do what they do from a business perspective (a perspective which is then transferred to the footballing side of the club).

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4 hours ago, Enigma said:

I’d like to think we’d be in for Murray too. He could be a pretty decent replacement for Hendry. The idiot above is wrong of course - he absolutely did tear us apart in that game. 

Raith fans are a decent bunch eh?

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As I said a few weeks back on the St Johnstone thread, they're a bit of an anomaly.  The revenue they get from non-football events is wild.  It's why they rarely lose their best players due to being able to offer them good contract extensions and are so consistently successful because of it, whether it's winning trophies or qualifying for Europe.
Trying to 'emulate' St Johnstone is a bit of a ref herring as it's basically impossible for other clubs to do what they do from a business perspective (a perspective which is then transferred to the footballing side of the club).

I’m not really familiar with their business model. What is the non-football revenue that they get and why is it so high?

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11 minutes ago, CallumPar said:


I’m not really familiar with their business model. What is the non-football revenue that they get and why is it so high?

McDiarmid is used by a lot of local businesses for its function facilities.  The crematorium next door uses it too.  SSE give them 6 figures a year.  There's others I can't mind but they make a fortune off their stadium.  It was built in a superb location.

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I’ve found with Pars fans there has been a distinct switch of mentality in recent years.

While previously our fan base seemed to have delusions of grandeur that were way off the mark, there has now been something of a 180 where people try to make us seem like a pub team who should be content to float around the second tier like an unwanted jobby.

I think it’s an inferiority complex of sorts or just a defence mechanism to allow the last 15 years of mostly utter dross to be acceptable.

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17 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

In the middle of the park? No chance should he be starting ahead of Thomas or Dow out wide if both are fit.

Who knows how Dow is going to come back from this length of time off and Thomas has got a lot of making up to do with me. No even a bunch of flowers aff the boy after some of those honking performances last season. 

Would be a crackin' problem to have. 

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I see Dapo Mebude has been released by Rangers. I sure his did well at Queens last year. Fit's the age profile we seem to be going for too.

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Are we actually planning on doing anything this summer?
Season tickets now on sale, after last seasons dross I thought a few signings would be announced but all we’ve had is an underwhelming manager appointment.

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Dunfermline should be a more successful club than St Johnstone; Saints have been punching above their weight for some time while Dunfermline have been in the doldrums.

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16 minutes ago, We Are Pars Fans! said:

Are we actually planning on doing anything this summer?
Season tickets now on sale, after last seasons dross I thought a few signings would be announced but all we’ve had is an underwhelming manager appointment.

Shields says in his interview that they are not rushing into anything as they a trying to get players to fit the system they intend to play next season, rather than signing somebody because they happen to have a championship medal in this division and look a good signing on paper.

I would imagine midfielders who are comfortable on the ball is what he means, as we will most certainly be playing a possession based game next season.

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For context, it was a month before a Johnston signing was announced, although he was appointed 3 weeks earlier than Grant (8 May vs 28 May).

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The way I see our clubs continual development is around measured and managed progress.

We're not awash with cash but there's a culture now within the club of long term sustainability, allied with realistic ambition. 

We were at rock bottom in 2013. Luckily we had supporters with enough moral fibre, belief and the collective gumption to ensure our survival. We started in many ways from scratch, this was always going to be a fairly long journey. Obviously we'd all have liked to be back in the top league by now, but till now it's not happened, so we just need to keep plugging away. 

There's the gym, new investment from refreshing the boardroom and a  planned training facility. All good positives for the club. 

The German gentlemen who have recently acquired a stake in ownership have come across well in their public interview regarding selling us their vision, which obviously aligned with the current board. 

St Johnstone are a great example and inspiration for us. We should respect that and be comfortable with the fact we're not in the same league as them in a number of ways. However we have the potential to get somewhere near them in the not too distant future, good luck to them, but even better luck to us. Our day back in the sunshine will come, I believe that. 

 

Edited by Axle Grease

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57 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said:

Dunfermline should be a more successful club than St Johnstone; Saints have been punching above their weight for some time while Dunfermline have been in the doldrums.

Redemption is in the air. Still a slavering fud though. 

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