da_no_1 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The 134K is not all due at once as far as I know......not that it matters much as I doubt we can afford any payment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 What a c**t Masterton is. He's actively gone on record saying that they'd been up to date on HMRC payments due to a payment from him. Then he's had Yorkston our saying that it is either the share issue or the directors pocket. Call me sceptical, but isn't it ironic TPC come out and say along the lines that they have a backing for £125k and then conveniently a bill of £134k needs picking up? Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Kim Jong-Gav was trying to swindle the money out of them like he has been with others for years. All I can say is best of luck to the Pars fans. Hopefully they can overcome this one way or another. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Keep the faith Dunfermline fans, we were due a sizeable chunk to HMRC and raised over £30,000 on a flag initiative alone. We raised a hell of a lot of money, and I'm sure if Dunfermline fans dig in, they can save their club as well. You must act though, even if it's in vain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 why do HMRC allow clubs to accrue such debt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 why do HMRC allow clubs to accrue such debt? Because you'll have clubs like the Pars, who keep telling them that the payment is imminent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larbert_Par Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Did Yorkston not claim the other week on Sportsound that people saying this sort of stuff were just silly wee boys on internet forums? Obviously he was talking nonsense. Let's be honest, the previous examples in Scottish football which such claims are made is the club is still here years down the line. Obviously worrying in the short term, but long term the club should still be there. It was either Yorkston or Masterton, certainly. And we've been subjected to reassurances that it was a "short-term" problem since October, amongst other things. Meetings scheduled for fans tonight and next week, with Leishman heading the steering group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Keep the faith Dunfermline fans, we were due a sizeable chunk to HMRC and raised over £30,000 on a flag initiative alone. We raised a hell of a lot of money, and I'm sure if Dunfermline fans dig in, they can save their club as well. You must act though, even if it's in vain. Dundee fans didn't save their club, the club cheated their creditors out of millions of pounds. Only Rangers would be a worse example to use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 not once but twice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 So it looks like the majority of the infamous document that appeared a few weeks back is true. Meanwhile in the last six months we've been told No financial issues at EEP - lie HMRC up to date - lie Short term problem - lie Players will be paid - lie Certain fans are out to shut the club down - lie It's 14 year old troublemakers behind all internet criticism - lie p***ks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parscelona Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) December 19th Dunfermline say outstanding player salaries from November have now been settled. The First Division club have also met their tax latest deadline by paying £50,000 to HM Revenue and Customs. "We are working to a plan and are now moving into a better period," said director Gavin Masterton January 17th A DAFC spokesperson announced today that "following receipt of a further loan from the Masterton family we are pleased to advise that all historical arrears due to HMRC have been cleared." ...and now by the end of next week, we've to find £134,000. That plan to move into a better period is really working isn't it Masterton? It's no surprise that Yorkston and him were speaking bullshit once again. In regards to the upcoming bill, i can't see anyone else being able to cover it other than The Pars Community. However what they'll get out of it in return i have no idea. Edited March 6, 2013 by Parscelona 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 best of luck to the Pars and their fans in sorting this mess out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 14 year old internet types 1 - 0 Gavin Masterton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 could big Leish not be seen to be putting himself across as the good guy in this by fronting a new board or whatever when in fact hes sat on the board and whilst dunfermlines debts accumulated? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 ...and now by the end of next week, we've to find £134,000. That plan to move into a better period is really working isn't it Masterton? It's no surprise that Yorkston and him were speaking bullshit once again. In regards to the upcoming bill, i can't see anyone else being able to cover it other than The Pars Community. However what they'll get out of in return i have no idea. I'm actually wondering if something really shady or criminal is going on, nobody can be that whimsical with the truth and not up to something surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordieBoy80 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 It'll be interesting to get Jimmy's take on it as the fans who turned up were invited in to the press conference but at this moment I'm fearful. I will be at the meeting on Monday even if I've to get up at 6am the next morning to be at uni in Paisley for 9 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXR750 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 £134k to HMRC by next week, that's it, a difficult situation is now not only inevitable but in fully flown death throes. The End Game is here right now. And who even knows if we are due them that much by next week because I no longer believe anything those rogues come out with, it could just be another rouse to get money out the fans. I don't know what is going on but one thing is very evident is that they are desperate to get as much money out the fans as they can, like really deperate and I find it hard to believe that it's purely to save the Pars because if it wad they would have spoken to the fans groups and shown some level of respect a long time ago. This whole thing I suspect has a lot more going on than just some provincial football club feeling the pinch. The share issue not going ahead because of some 'wording' problems? How long ago was that now? No accounts published for Charleston Holding and EEP Ltd? It's all going to get really murky isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 So it looks like the majority of the infamous document that appeared a few weeks back is true. Meanwhile in the last six months we've been told No financial issues at EEP - lie HMRC up to date - lie Short term problem - lie Players will be paid - lie Certain fans are out to shut the club down - lie It's 14 year old troublemakers behind all internet criticism - lie p***ks. I'd guess this was probably a half- truth and what Dunfermline where actually up to date with was the repayment schedule for their debt. HMRC will give such an arrangement on the understanding that all future liability is paid in full and on time. When this does not happen the arrangement is cancelled and payment in full is demanded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Sounds ominous. Has HMRC actually issued a winding-up order against Dunfermline - or is the implication that they'd be into the Court of Session as soon as payments or repayments are missed? It's a lot of money to find, or for supporters organisations to stump-up for no 'stake'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parscelona Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 And who even knows if we are due them that much by next week because I no longer believe anything those rogues come out with, it could just be another rouse to get money out the fans. The sad thing is that we can't rule that out either. Can one of the supporters groups not get into contact with HMRC to determine whether this is the true figure/timescale that has to be met? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris. Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Terrible news tbh. Couple of my best pals are Pars fans and I'd be gutted to see them lose the club they've grown up supporting. That, and despite the rivalry, I have no real ill feeling towards Dunfermline. What's the chances of coming up with that sort of cash in that timescale? Going from what I've read it seems to be quite unlikely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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