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I love the fact that we're paying Watson double what he was at Tannadice.
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Players that left were paid for months without having to do anything, some of them didn’t do anything from the moment they signed their contracts.

They were paid all the money they were due and I have no qualms over the action taken. It’s going to be a bad time for a lot of people who earned a lot less than professional footballers and my sympathies lie more with them.

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It doesnt matter who the source is if the advice is incorrect. Wrong advice is wrong advice.
It really does, if you are given incorrect but insured professional advice you have protection as a business in that you can claim against the advisors insurance to mitigate any fine etc.

Ignore that advice or not seek insured advice and you are screwed if HMRC come after you......

Directors would not be fulfilling their duties as Directors and could be held personally liable if the act to the detriment of the business.

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Clubs wont be pursued for "cheating" furlough, by extending contracts on a month by month basis. 100%.

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Players that left were paid for months without having to do anything, some of them didn’t do anything from the moment they signed their contracts.
They were paid all the money they were due and I have no qualms over the action taken. It’s going to be a bad time for a lot of people who earned a lot less than professional footballers and my sympathies lie more with them.

Agree with this until the sentiment of the last sentence. The 17 Dunfermline players who didn’t have their contracts renewed were probably earning around the nation’s average wage, some over it some under it. You knew this though.
You don’t need to force yourself to not feel sorry for footballers (especially at this level) going without a wage for a few months because you perceive these guys to be insanely rich people who can easily go without income for an uncertain period of time.

I’m also not so sure about the “didn’t do anything since signing for the club” claim.
Clubs wont be pursued for "cheating" furlough, by extending contracts on a month by month basis. 100%.

You’re clearly just assuming this as there’s no way you can actually know this?

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The travel companies who look to be sacking thousands after furloughing made me think that the club made the right choice. Perhaps, I hope we did, we could have offered training advice and facilities at least.

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There’s been plenty of other clubs that have released players at the end of their contract. We are being targeted especially for some strange reason. Why? Because we have been smart with our money instead of pandering to the Namby-pamby, care-in-the-community bollocks some have spouted?

 

I’d honestly have been raging if we kept Ashcroft and Paton knowing full well we could have got Watson and Whittaker.

 

 

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You’re clearly just assuming this as there’s no way you can actually know this?
An assumption based on a conversation my employer had with HMRC with fixed term contracts being the subject.

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2 hours ago, smpar said:

because you perceive these guys to be insanely rich people who can easily go without income for an uncertain period.

Yes, because I mentioned the fact they are professional footballers I meant they were “insanely rich people”

What a stupid comment.

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4 hours ago, Rob1885 said:

Clubs wont be pursued for "cheating" furlough, by extending contracts on a month by month basis. 100%.

Agree with this.

4 hours ago, mac.i said:

It really does, if you are given incorrect but insured professional advice you have protection as a business in that you can claim against the advisors insurance to mitigate any fine etc.

Ignore that advice or not seek insured advice and you are screwed if HMRC come after you......

Directors would not be fulfilling their duties as Directors and could be held personally liable if the act to the detriment of the business.

Evidently clubs have been given different advice as other clubs did continue to furlough players. It'll all come out in the wash as it were, but if HMRC were to chase clubs for doing the right thing and keeping players on, it'd be scandalous. It's not as if it's just mega-rich clubs that have kept players employed as several teams done likewise in this very league.

I think Dunfermline are having this leveled at them more than any other club due to the sheer amount you let go (I get that this would have likely been the case anyway) is a headline catcher and then you've subsequently signed players one of which will likely be on a very good wage for this level.

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We'll have made decisions based on what is best for the club. I'm sure with everyone being treated both legally correctly and with respect. 

I think our Boards ethics are pretty good and I also believe from a financial perspective, pretty sound. 

We haven't got everything right under Ross McArthur but we've a good chance of coming through this Covid-19 pandemic relatively unscathed as a club under his tenureship. 

I'm glad we're backing Crawfords ambitions right now in the transfer market. That's what the club should be doing. We've got to start planning for playing football again.

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7 hours ago, DAFC. said:

pandering to the Namby-pamby, care-in-the-community bollocks some have spouted?

 

 

"Namby pamby care in the community bollocks" 🤦🏻‍♂️

Aka keeping players on 80% of a wage which would allow them to pay their bills whilst lining up another job once furlough isn't an option. 

What is it with some Dunfermline supporters not being able to acknowledge that some things their club does/has done is absolutely shite behaviour? 

They're easily one of the scummiest clubs in Scotland. 

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17 minutes ago, Ebanda's Handyman Services said:

"Namby pamby care in the community bollocks" 🤦🏻‍♂️

Aka keeping players on 80% of a wage which would allow them to pay their bills whilst lining up another job once furlough isn't an option. 

What is it with some Dunfermline supporters not being able to acknowledge that some things their club does/has done is absolutely shite behaviour? 

They're easily one of the scummiest clubs in Scotland. 

Dog eat dog world little teamer. That's why we are a much bigger club than Rovers. 

 

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"Namby pamby care in the community bollocks"
Aka keeping players on 80% of a wage which would allow them to pay their bills whilst lining up another job once furlough isn't an option. 
What is it with some Dunfermline supporters not being able to acknowledge that some things their club does/has done is absolutely shite behaviour? 
They're easily one of the scummiest clubs in Scotland. 
There is a fair bit of contorting going on to justify something they would undoubtedly be getting into other teams for. Well observed.

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14 minutes ago, Chubbychops said:

Dog eat dog world little teamer. That's why we are a much bigger club than Rovers. 

 

They might be a bigger club than the Rovers.

They're definitely a shittier club. 

 

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They might be a bigger club than the Rovers.
They're definitely a shittier club. 
 
Settle down you absolute mentalist.

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9 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:
16 minutes ago, Ebanda said:
They might be a bigger club than the Rovers.
They're definitely a shittier club. 
 

Settle down you absolute mentalist.

Mentalist! Haha! 

Take your blinkers off. 

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18 hours ago, Rob1885 said:
23 hours ago, 101 said:
Agreed, anyone arguing someone who has played in the top flight in England and Scotland as well as having 31 international caps has less to offer our younger players than a mid table jobber who has been steady his entire career with limited caps for a smaller country is rather odd indeed.

Felt it was a very shabby way to treat the club captain who had a big influence last season.

He signed a 1 year deal and was paid in full that to me isn't shabby

14 hours ago, Rob1885 said:
14 hours ago, DA Baracus said:
Why would you, or anyone but the chairman or board, have been privy to the details of the advice they received (from two sources)?
It wasn't an easy choice, thus two sources, and it might be that the advice was wrong, but we just keep coming back to the risk not being worth it.
When do the contracts of the new signings start from? Also the players who didn't get furloughed for another month would be gone by tomorrow anyway, so no one would be getting wages before others.

It doesnt matter what the source of the advice is or who its given to if it's incorrect. The risk to the club for extending the furlough scheme for players out of contract at the end of May till the end of June or July - minimal/non-existent.

Big difference between minimal and non existent especially when your company has virtually no cash reserves and has been in hot water with HMRC before. Not worth the risk.

10 hours ago, Rob1885 said:

Clubs wont be pursued for "cheating" furlough, by extending contracts on a month by month basis. 100%.

Unless you are the Chancellor you can't possibly know this. If anything I think the Prime Minister has confirmed the complete opposite. The Government will be penniless why wouldn't they come after companies flouting the rules it's a total misuse of our tax.

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