Stoo61 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, DAFC. said: When abouts in it does he talk about the job? Can’t be arsed listening to their dross for an hour. Luckily for you, pretty much from the start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Kenny Miller talking up a storm about the Pars job on the Open Goal Podcast....Give him the job, I'm sold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.i Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Stoo61 said: Kenny Miller talking up a storm about the Pars job on the Open Goal Podcast.... I reckon we're pretty safe as he got into a discussion about how they all like 3-5-2.... After the start to the season l'd expect that to go along the lines of Pars panel "how do you see the team playing?“ KM 'well I like 3-......' Pars "NEXT!!! “ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 There’s nothing inherently wrong with playing a back 3 but you need to have the right players to utilise it effectively. No system would have worked under Grant because he was totally incompetent. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.i Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Absolutely agree, however with the squad we've got and given their current likely confidence levels it's not something I'd like to see any time soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) We've seen AJ and PG implement 3-5-2 now with horrific consequences. Mind AJ's defeats to Ross County and ICT at home after beating Dundee United. Back three of Devine, Durnan and Ashcroft. Livi had huge success with Lithgow, Declan Gallacher and Craig Halkett but two of those players when on to bigger things. It's about having the right players like said above. Also the quality of your central midfield. We never seem to have midfielder that can comfortably hold on to the ball for more than a couple seconds. When was the last time we had a CM that could thread a though ball to the strikers. You have to create more through the middle with that formation. Scotland are fairly successful with 3-5-2 due to the central midfield being quite good. It players to our strengths. Four at the back suits us with what we have got. Beyond that a manager may want to change things around. Central midfield is pretty light. Wilson doesn't look up to speed, much the same as Dow since he came back. Not sure what preparation we are putting in for these long term injuries coming back but the both look well off the pace. Edited November 3, 2021 by Chubbychops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 There’s nothing inherently wrong with playing a back 3 but you need to have the right players to utilise it effectively. No system would have worked under Grant because he was totally incompetent.Agree with this. Grant’s instructions meant that a back 3 was a disaster. The main issue was that he asked the wing backs to bomb forward whenever we had the ball and didn’t have anybody covering for them. So they were up in line with the strikers and when we lost the ball, the RCB and LCB had to play both RB/LB and CB. Basically becoming responsible for 2 opponents. As soon as one of them were beaten, we ended up ridiculously short and opponents would be odds on to score. It got even worse when he started asking Comrie to overlap MacDonald, leaving us with 2 men back. This is why every championship team very quickly started targeting the wings when they had the ball. It drew people out of position and meant we were all over the place and panicking as soon as we lost the ball.The wing backs bombing forward was also an issue because our build up play was slow. This meant that they would push forward and then stand and wait for the ball to get forward, with their backs to goal. Instead of waiting for someone to play a ball that they could run onto and run at the opposition with a bit of momentum. Their first touch had to be backwards, which killed all attacking momentum, as full backs would be pressuring them right away and they’d have to pass it back.Our midfield was also not suited for that system at all. There wasn’t enough movement/energy. We didn’t have that player always wanting the ball. We didn’t have the midfielder going box to box, defending and creating. They also should have worked out themselves that they had to cover for the wing backs when they went forward. That should have been really basic understanding of the game for the midfielders. These things are required for that kind of system, otherwise you have huge weaknesses in that system.Grant didn’t actually understand football. He knew what he wanted to do, but didn’t actually have a plan for how it worked, what everyone’s roles were in that team etc. It was really poor management that meant that system was a total disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The last time it worked for us was under JC and even then, the fans wanted us to go to 442 at home because the football was boring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 hours ago, mac.i said: I reckon we're pretty safe as he got into a discussion about how they all like 3-5-2.... After the start to the season l'd expect that to go along the lines of Pars panel "how do you see the team playing?“ KM 'well I like 3-......' Pars "NEXT!!! “ David Hopkin is also a fan of 3-5-2. Although, you need a minimum of 8 defenders on the park to implement it in all its glory. Personally I'd be worried if the Pars brought in John Robertson, absolute a solid appointment at this level. Wouldn't be long before you climbed above the rest of us jobbers cut off in the bottom half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 We’ve played a back three of Benedictus, Berra and Lang a couple of times this season and it’s worked a treat when we’ve deployed it, allows our fullbacks to bomb up the park with impunity. There’s a definite time and a place for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Worked well against Dumbarton and Stenhousemuir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Enigma said: We’ve played a back three of Benedictus, Berra and Lang a couple of times this season and it’s worked a treat when we’ve deployed it, allows our fullbacks to bomb up the park with impunity. There’s a definite time and a place for it. As someone else said, it's about your midfielders knowing when to fill in for the full backs to stop you being exposed. Given how advanced McGlynn plays his full backs, even in a back 4 he's had to indoctrinate that thinking in his midfield for a few years now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=DAFC_Board_Statement_&ID=13415 McArthur stepping down at the end of the season. Statement: Quote DAFC Chairman, Ross McArthur, has announced that he will be standing down from the DAFC Board at the end of the current season. Ross has been a member of the Board since May 2014 and was very much the driving force of the Pars United movement for well over a year before that. Ross has worked tirelessly, and on a wholly voluntary basis, for the Club over the whole of that period. Everyone on the DAFC Board is disappointed at Ross’s decision, which he made a few weeks ago, but fully understands why he wishes to stand down following abhorrent personal abuse and attacks to which he was subjected. Following the period in administration, under Ross’s guiding hand the Club has, amongst other things: rebuilt its previously tarnished reputation within Scottish football; stabilised its finances; improved its accounting, compliance and management systems and controls; achieved promotion to the Championship; made significant improvements to East End Park and more recently navigated its way through the complicated Covid-19 protocols. It was Ross who saw the necessity, and drove the process, to attract additional investment into the Club, without which the Club’s longer-term future could well have been uncertain. He has also, and at great personal expense in terms of time and effort, represented the Championship clubs on the SPFL Board. Even though Ross will continue for the remainder of the season, the Board would like now to place on record our sincere and heartfelt thanks to Ross for all that he has done for the Club. Ross’s decision comes at a time when the Club is on the brink of several, very important Club infrastructure developments each of which, with the continued support of our new investors, is expected to crystallise before he stands down and which would never have been possible without his tireless efforts to make them happen. These will very much improve the longer-term future prospects of our Club, on and off the pitch. So, when Ross stands down in May, the Club will be in a very much stronger position than the Club which came out of administration in December 2013. Everyone associated with the Club owes Ross a huge debt of gratitude for that. Obviously, we will suitably express our thanks and gratitude at the end of the season when his tenure formally ends. Edited November 3, 2021 by Cardle is Magic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Ross McArthur stepping down at the end of the season. Sounds like it’s because of abuse/attacks, which is a terrible shame. He made mistakes in his tenure, particularly the appointment of Grant, but nobody can deny that he always had the best interests of the club at heart and everything he did, was with the best intentions of the club at heart. Disgusting that he is stepping down for reasons like this. Hopefully we can find a decent replacement, who can help the club to improve in all aspects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Aye, that’s a real shame that he’s felt the need to pack it in because of that. Definitely the right choice for both parties but the circumstances are disappointing.Although we’ve wanted to detach ourselves from the “at least we’ve still got a club” attitude, it’s worth remembering what McArthur did for us in stabilising the club after nearly losing it for good. Best wishes to him. Hopefully that’s the last time he has to deal with any of that shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 He's done a hell of a lot for the club in a time of need. Yeah a couple questionable manager appointments he's been involved in but he can leave with his head held high and the appreciation of most Pars fans. Shocking that some felt the need to cross the line and run him out the club like that. I'm guessing it will be a paid replacement coming in to replace him. I hope it somebody with suitable experience and skills for the job rather than a cheap option winging it. If we can get the right person to replace him it might freshen things up and take the club forward with new ideas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Terrible news for the club, Ross' passion, drive and enthusiasm are unrivalled at the club. Unfortunately the disgraceful abuse he's been subject too over the last month or so has understandably shaken him. Glad he will stay on till the end of the season to allow a handover with whoever replaces him. But whoever it is the club will be poorer for him not being involved at board room level. Hope he can come back with his season ticket in the NW next season. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Will this be the Germans “taking over” as it were? Expect them to get their own man in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Raith Rovers have ruined Tom's rugged good looks, just as well BRE never went East. ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeclanG Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 A real shame that McArthur's gone, he made some very questionable decisions at times but overall was a massive force of good for the club, I don't know how it would have turned out if he hadn't been the one driving forward Pars United back in the admin days. For the future as well, it means less money for the playing budget as assumedly we'll now be taking on a paid CEO instead of McArthur as a volunteer. Worst part is that I bet the folk who spat on him, verbally abused him and slashed his tyres all feel pretty proud of themselves right now. I can't see this coming out as a net positive for the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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