Skyline Drifter Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: SD very generous on Moyes’ spell at OT there. He certainly should have been given more time to make it work but he wasn’t doing a good job even with the difficult circumstances factored in. People just seem to completely ignore the fact Mourinho won two trophies at United and had them finish 2nd with 81 points. Ole hasn’t won anything despite spending an absolute fortune. We can debate the merits of Moyes spell at Man Utd if you want. The point though is that even if he was dreadful there he's a guy with a track record in successful management at multiple other clubs and therefore, an appalling comparison to Peter Grant as an appointment. Even leaving aside the fact that it's not a remotely comparable market. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Yep, I'm not sure if he got the point of my comparison. He was the 'chosen one' and made an utter c**t of the job. I don't care what he did before or after United. I wasn't debating if Moyes is a good manager or not. You said he was a high profile comparison to Grant. He's not. He had a successful background in football management that Grant does not. He was also handpicked by his legendary predecessor. Not the same as Ross McArthur or the Germans deciding that Grant was the man for the job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: You said he was a high profile comparison to Grant. He's not. He had a successful background in football management that Grant does not. He was also handpicked by his legendary predecessor. Not the same as Ross McArthur or the Germans deciding that Grant was the man for the job. So you agree that both were the only candidates considered for both jobs, and both failed/are failing spectacularly. I'm glad we agree. Quite why you're going on about Moyes career before and after is puzzling, given that's not was is being discussed here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DAFC. said: You won (not that's a big achievement these days given this is the worst situation at EEP in donkeys) so just be graceful in victory, eh? Arbroath fans are absolutely weird man. Your avatars bit weird bro Where is ben1885s vlog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, TheScarf said: So you agree that both were the only candidates considered for both jobs, and both failed/are failing spectacularly. I'm glad we agree. Quite why you're going on about Moyes career before and after is puzzling, given that's not was is being discussed here. You cannot ignore their respective careers before appointment in terms of their consideration for the position regardless of whether other candidates were considered or not. It was and remains a frankly awful comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigi Alabocheré Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Your avatars bit weird bro Where is ben1885s vlog Ban vlogging at football matches IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Gigi Alabocheré said: Ban vlogging at football matches IMO. Should be illegal. Bunch of sad b*****ds. Nothing wrong with podcasts or wee online discussion post-match, but actively going to a game of football and recording it and yourself is sad as f*ck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Can't stand that sort of shite. Between that and recording concerts on your phone. What happened to living in the moment? Nobody fucking cares about your shite-quality recording of something. Some small clips are alright, but c***s who do it constantly need to f**k up. For example, we'd never have "that's never ten yairds" without those. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, DAFC. said: Should be illegal. Bunch of sad b*****ds. Nothing wrong with podcasts or wee online discussion post-match, but actively going to a game of football and recording it and yourself is sad as f*ck. 13 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Can't stand that sort of shite. Between that and recording concerts on your phone. What happened to living in the moment? Nobody fucking cares about your shite-quality recording of something. Some small clips are alright, but c***s who do it constantly need to f**k up. For example, we'd never have "that's never ten yairds" without those. What a pair of miserable b*****ds If people enjoy doing it and they’re not harming anyone else, why would you possibly care? No one is forcing you to watch. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said: We can debate the merits of Moyes spell at Man Utd if you want. The point though is that even if he was dreadful there he's a guy with a track record in successful management at multiple other clubs and therefore, an appalling comparison to Peter Grant as an appointment. Even leaving aside the fact that it's not a remotely comparable market. I think it was fairly obvious that @TheScarf was referring to the fact that both men were appointed without any recruitment process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Aye bit harsh like it’s something I would never ever do myself but I enjoy watching them just to get a feel of games and to see different stadiums etc. Better than watching the Tele. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 We’re actually going to keep this fud aren’t we? Thought I had maybe read too much into the Watson interview but looks like everyone is of a similar opinion. Fed up of being chucked under the bus by the manager they have decided to fight back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toun Clock Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, parsforlife said: We’re actually going to keep this fud aren’t we? Thought I had maybe read too much into the Watson interview but looks like everyone is of a similar opinion. Fed up of being chucked under the bus by the manager they have decided to fight back. We are but I can't say I'm surprised. Calling for the managers sacking after 3 league games isn't normal but I think it is warranted in this case. Brought in a guy that got relegated from the league last season that none of us wanted who has now gone on to talk an awful lot of p1sh, making bold predictions and some dogsh*t signings. The board have shot themselves in the foot with this one but they're a stubborn bunch. We kept AJ well past his sell by date and we done the same with Crawford. Crawford would still be in place now if he didn't resign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Sandy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, 101 said: Paul Watson's interview is about as good as you can ask after Grant keeps throwing them under the bus I hope the players can stay together as a group. Can't honestly see Grant being punted before the first quarter is out unless he keeps losing 3-0. Grant is becoming a great incentive for other clubs when playing DAFC!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: What a pair of miserable b*****ds Yep, no argument there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigi Alabocheré Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: What a pair of miserable b*****ds If people enjoy doing it and they’re not harming anyone else, why would you possibly care? No one is forcing you to watch. It’s absolute weirdo behaviour and anyone vlogging at the fitbaw is for the watching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigi Alabocheré Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Grant won’t be going anytime soon unless he walks. The board have no back bone and I reckon he’ll get the first quarter before he’s sent packing. I’ll be astonished if he manages another professional club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The Nisbet situation could go a long way to determine why happens with Grant. £1mil+ from Hibs and it’s “fire at will” for Grant. Without that? It’s either pay him off and promote from within or seek a handout from a director and is that really the business model we want to see? As much as it would be a relief to get rid of the old duffer, it would be extremely frustrating to have to spent a substantial amount of money to get rid of someone who shouldn’t have been given the job in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Aye bit harsh like it’s something I would never ever do myself but I enjoy watching them just to get a feel of games and to see different stadiums etc. Better than watching the Tele. I would never do it myself and I wouldn’t bother watching one but I’m not going to criticise others if that’s what they enjoy doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gigi Alabocheré said: It’s absolute weirdo behaviour and anyone vlogging at the fitbaw is for the watching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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