DA Baracus Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) I bet when Murray plays in a competent team with someone experienced beside him he'll do fine. Happens with so many players and, once again, people refuse to understand how big a role confidence and morale has with players. Could be wrong of course and he'll be pish, but the point about confidence and morale stands and I don't understand why so many football fans seem to be blind to it or, worse, claim it has no effect. That's not to say that some players can't have a shite game or that some genuinely have chucked it, but the number who 'chuck it' is never anywhere near what some would have you believe. Edited March 31, 2021 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 59 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: What is Crawford saying after those two defeats? Just the usual managerial nonsense? He gave a long monotone reflection like he was taking a funeral service. Gave Rovers no credit, just repeating that his team's performance was unacceptible. It's on Dunfermline's website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, JFPar said: This. As much as it would please me to have Stephen Robinson at Dunfermline it's not going to happen. Nearly spat my tea out when I realised he had his own thread on dotnet this morning. Serves you right for reading the utter drivel on .net 32 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: I bet when Murray plays in a competent team with someone experienced beside him he'll do fine. He's exactly the same as Ashcroft decent middling championship CH that can raise slightly beyond that with a good partnership in defence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, DAFC. said: Glad we have him for next season tbh. Last night just showed how bad we are without him. Not saying we would have won with him but f*ck me the basics were non-existent. The 'basics' not being completed by him was the reason Ashcroft was so dominant in the game before tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said: There is absolutely no way Euan Murray is anything approaching good enough for any side in the top 6 of the Premiership. Reminds me of Ashcroft - when things were going well he was getting rave reviews but if you watch him closely (as I said before we signed Ashcroft) he's pretty shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Reminds me of Ashcroft - when things were going well he was getting rave reviews but if you watch him closely (as I said before we signed Ashcroft) he's pretty shite. Would agree with this. Similar weaknesses (concentration, tracking runners, ball watching, unnecessary panic), but would trust him to get his head on the end of a cross - something Watson was unable to do at defensive corners on Saturday!Ashcroft absolutely destroyed Watson at every set piece on Saturday, similar to Murray against everyone early in the season. Not sure why we stuck with the same man marking him until he scored/Watson went off. There were so many warnings before Ashcroft’s header that led to the equaliser, never mind Ashcroft’s winning goal. Crawford’s mentioned before that teams now double up on Murray at corners, but he couldn’t work out we had to do that to Ashcroft on Saturday.That being said, we were clearly absolutely horrific at defending from open play last night which is a different issue. The full back 4 and keeper need to take responsibility for that. None of them hit any sort of standard that is acceptable. No matter how well Raith played (and they played very well), we should not be giving them, or anyone, so much freedom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Our rearranged game against Dundee, a week on Tuesday, is now on BBC Scotland. Another televised embarrassment! Hooray! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Murray was good for us in League One, and I was disappointed when he left, but he was more of a utility player than a standout first pick for the centre of defence. He played across the back line for us and (if I remember rightly) at least once in a holding midfield role. He was 7 or 8/10 every week, wherever he played. Never a disaster, but with clear weaknesses. I'd take him back at the Rovers, but I think he'd slot in as the third best central defender. You could make the argument that he's better than Benedictus, but on the last few months showing he'd definitely be behind Musonda. Talk of a move to a much bigger club seems very premature. It seemed to stem from paper talk when he was scoring goals earlier in the season and I'd be surprised if anyone outside of the bottom two or three Premiership clubs had sustained an interest. I'd have thought the most logical move for him would be staying where he is or getting a sideways-ish move to somewhere like Dundee to pick up some extra money, and hope for a title challenge next year. The Championship looks like his level, and I think to get a proper look in at Premiership level he'll need to make himself key to a title winning defence and go up with the team. Of the two, I'd rather have Watson. While he might not be as dominant in the air, he's a much better all round centre half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Our rearranged game against Dundee, a week on Tuesday, is now on BBC Scotland. Another televised embarrassment! Hooray! 'Mon the draw! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Silence is deafening from our club just now. Not a fucking peep on social media since that debacle ended last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Silence is deafening from our club just now. Not a fucking peep on social media since that debacle ended last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toun Clock Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, DAFC. said: Silence is deafening from our club just now. Not a fucking peep on social media since that debacle ended last night. Probably a good thing. As much as we're all hoping for that announcement it's unlikely it'll come. So if they can't say that I'd rather they posted nothing, especially not a highlights package. 1 hour ago, 101 said: Serves you right for reading the utter drivel on .net Indeed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 What we need to hear, is a BoD statement that they fully back Crawford. Then we can rest easy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Black and White Tragic said: What we need to hear, is a BoD statement that they fully back Crawford. Then we can rest easy. Yep. Every club needs a Stevie Crawford. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Yep. Every club needs a Stevie Crawford.Whoosh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I still wouldn't take Musonda, he's not very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, DAFC. said: Silence is deafening from our club just now. Not a fucking peep on social media since that debacle ended last night. I’m not sure what you expect to happen, when we win they naturally push highlights, gifs of goals etc. They have nothing to work with today, silence is the only option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 So what actually happened with Turner? I've not read a clear account. As some of you have mentioned, you have a midfield made up of loanees. Turner, for me, was / is a real prospect, and I don't remember him being slaughtered for any catastrophes. Not saying he would have made a difference last night but it shone a light on a good non-loanee player being somewhere else, a la Vaughan at Dumbarton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 What are the board going to do? Statement saying fucking sort it Stevie? Completely unrealistic ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Brashy's Boots said: So what actually happened with Turner? I've not read a clear account. As some of you have mentioned, you have a midfield made up of loanees. Turner, for me, was / is a real prospect, and I don't remember him being slaughtered for any catastrophes. Not saying he would have made a difference last night but it shone a light on a good non-loanee player being somewhere else, a la Vaughan at Dumbarton. Anyone who knows is rightly not going to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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