BinoBalls Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 and there it is, Monks condemns someone without even knowing his identity and without proof on nothing more than prejudices, that imo is bordering on a bigoted frame of mind. You think Spiers made this all up out of thin air, because you think he doesn't like Rangers? And you're calling other people paranoid! Wasn't that long ago Donald Findlay was filmed singing TBB. And the vast majority of Rangers fans have sang it at one point in their lives. Thousands of them were at it a month ago. It's hardly unthinkable that a director said he liked the song. It *is* actually quite a powerful chant but its content is wrong and it needs stopped. I just don't see how you can flat out call Spiers a liar. No "not sure about that" or "I doubt that"... Just straight to "liar". The man himself is sticking by what he said. I wonder if in a parallel universe there is Tedi the Celtic fan. You need to get away from assessing the validity of a point from purerly based on who is saying it and what team you think they support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Couldn't give a rubber duck!Ffs. Please don't mention apple and pears. You know what they're like and taking offense where none is intended.And why has Tedi got a hard on for that rhat blogger? He was outed eons ago. Edited January 28, 2016 by Njord 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You think Spiers made this all up out of thin air, because you think he doesn't like Rangers? And you're calling other people paranoid! Wasn't that long ago Donald Findlay was filmed singing TBB. And the vast majority of Rangers fans have sang it at one point in their lives. Thousands of them were at it a month ago. It's hardly unthinkable that a director said he liked the song. It *is* actually quite a powerful chant but its content is wrong and it needs stopped. I just don't see how you can flat out call Spiers a liar. No "not sure about that" or "I doubt that"... Just straight to "liar". The man himself is sticking by what he said. I wonder if in a parallel universe there is Tedi the Celtic fan. You need to get away from assessing the validity of a point from purerly based on who is saying it and what team you think they support. Would a director really say that to spiers, of all people? If spiers has proof then the herald would have told Rangers to f off and would not have apologised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Because Spiers is one of you and belted it out on the terraces. Dammit the only thing that rhymes is door hinge Edited January 28, 2016 by Njord 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Would a director really say that to spiers, of all people? If spiers has proof then the herald would have told Rangers to f off and would not have apologised. Maybe you film every conversation you have benno but the rest of us tend not to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well when they blog about Rangers , we have every right to keep up to date and have an interest in what they are saying What it has to with a sel... Sorry thistle fan I Havnae got a fucking scooby That's fine if you discuss what they are saying. But that's not what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 We go from a definite Spiers is right and never lied to a .... On the balance of probability I feel.... Sly old monkey has stuck in his get out clause but a little too late. So a bit like your posts on the bears fightback thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I wonder if in a parallel universe there is Tedi the Celtic fan. You need to get away from assessing the validity of a point from purerly based on who is saying it and what team you think they support. You don't need to visit a parallel universe to meet that guy. He's here in this one sadly, among thousands of peers. You just need to look for him among those who went to a different type of school from Ted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 More contradictory nonsense from you. It's not contradictory at all. I'm not 100% certain, but I feel very confident indeed that Spiers is not making this up. I'm virtually certain of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Maybe you film every conversation you have benno but the rest of us tend not to. Don't give him ideas... https://community.homeaway.com/thread/3638 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You think Spiers made this all up out of thin air, because you think he doesn't like Rangers? And you're calling other people paranoid! Wasn't that long ago Donald Findlay was filmed singing TBB. And the vast majority of Rangers fans have sang it at one point in their lives. Thousands of them were at it a month ago. It's hardly unthinkable that a director said he liked the song. It *is* actually quite a powerful chant but its content is wrong and it needs stopped. I just don't see how you can flat out call Spiers a liar. No "not sure about that" or "I doubt that"... Just straight to "liar". The man himself is sticking by what he said. I wonder if in a parallel universe there is Tedi the Celtic fan. You need to get away from assessing the validity of a point from purerly based on who is saying it and what team you think they support. findlay was not caught singing the billy boys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You think Spiers made this all up out of thin air, because you think he doesn't like Rangers? And you're calling other people paranoid! Wasn't that long ago Donald Findlay was filmed singing TBB. And the vast majority of Rangers fans have sang it at one point in their lives. Thousands of them were at it a month ago. It's hardly unthinkable that a director said he liked the song. It *is* actually quite a powerful chant but its content is wrong and it needs stopped. I just don't see how you can flat out call Spiers a liar. No "not sure about that" or "I doubt that"... Just straight to "liar". The man himself is sticking by what he said. I wonder if in a parallel universe there is Tedi the Celtic fan. You need to get away from assessing the validity of a point from purerly based on who is saying it and what team you think they support. Donald Findlay sang 'The Sash my Father wore', not the Billy Boys, do get it right. The reason i know this; i was there at the Cup Final night, he said before he sang it that, "no doubt the Daily Record will hear about this". I still don't know what the problem was, he was at a private party and the song is not sectarian. He was very good at singing it as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 findlay was not caught singing the billy boys I'm pretty sure he was, among other little ditties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm pretty sure he was, among other little ditties. And you'll be wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Donald Findlay sang 'The Sash my Father wore', not the Billy Boys, do get it right. The reason i know this; i was there at the Cup Final night, he said before he sang it that, "no doubt the Daily Record will hear about this". I still don't know what the problem was, he was at a private party and the song is not sectarian. He was very good at singing it as well. He also said "Remember how we're not sectarian anymore" or some such, before belting out his anthems of hate against a religious minority. Imagine defending your chairman's right to do such a thing. There's no hope with some of you people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Probably worth asking here: What would a journalist get out of making up a story, even one as unremarkable as this and then continuing to stand by it, even after his employers have caved in to the source of the story? The answer is - a load of grief from his boss, and a load of grief from random football fans. And that's it - no upside, no personal benefit at all. Why would anyone voluntarily incur such levels of grief, when it'd be far more in his interest to just keep quiet? Well, either because - Spiers just pure hates the Rangers and is on a mad quest to make them look bad, or - Because he's telling the truth. I don't think you have to be Sherlock Holmes to work out which of these conclusions is most likely to be accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 And you'll be wrong. Donald Findlay QC, said last night the embarrassing controversy that erupted after he was caught on film singing sectarian songs Songs....more than one....plural.... And he was quite keen on the Famine Song from what I remember . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Explain to someone arriving from outer space the link between the sport of football and this Protestant supremacy bullshit that bear-kind wallow in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 £3,500 fine? Fuxsakes , a ton a song isn't much deterrent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) He also said "Remember how we're not sectarian anymore" or some such, before belting out his anthems of hate against a religious minority. Imagine defending your chairman's right to do such a thing. There's no hope with some of you people. He sang one song that isn't sectarian. Songs....more than one....plural.... And he was quite keen on the Famine Song from what I remember . In 1999 leading QC Donald Findlay resigned his position as vice chairman of Rangers after he was caught on video singing a sectarian song, The Billy Boys, after the Rangers v Celtic Scottish Cup final. He was also fined £3,500 by the Faculty of Advocates. Must be shyte at law if he did nowt wrong. As i stated previously, he sang 'The Sash my Father Wore', that was the only song he sang that night. Edited January 28, 2016 by youngsy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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