Bendarroch Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Of course it had no negative connotations for you - you are the personification of the target demographic. And of course it had negative connotations for you - you are the personification of the perpetually offended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 There wasn't that much fuss made of the podcast at the time though Dave, must be a coincidence that a shit storm has kicked up about it shortly after Celtic fans rioted in Amsterdam. Shortly after rangers fans starting talking about Celtic fans on a rangers thread, I would suggest it is a coincidence. Malcolm Murray appears on radio Scotland podcast. No surrender phrase comes up and is discussed in podcast. The subject is discussed on here. The fact that the BBC podcast took place after celtics trip to Amsterdam is purely coincidental. If the podcast had taken place before the Ajax game and discussions on here had taken place before the Ajax game... Would you have stood up and said the rangers fans were deflecting from it by discussing Celtic? When the two topics took place, and when they were discussed in here has no relation to each other. As regardless of when they took place, both would have been discussed. Likewise if only one had taken place, then it still would have been discussed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 oh i have noticed, and it's horrible to watch... ironically, the thread stayed bang on topic, right up until about mid june last year... then something changed. Is that when Dhensebhore and the Killie fan started debating 'RA sellik and their annual poppygate shame? Bang on topic you say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 PM gang in action - WKR and Fhud on the same page - hoodathunkit? Murray's use of that phrase had no negative connotations for me. And I've yet to hear of another Rangers supporter taking that view. Plenty of plastics and diddies right enough - quelle surprise... Closet bigot in finding sectarian dog whistling acceptable shocker. No wonder you cheered Sir Charles of Normandy to the rafters while he was stealing your money, all he had to do was throw in a few WATP's and a couple of No Surrenders. Laughable. Keep on digging, it's not as if you haven't made an utter fool of yourself already on this matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomogganners Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) And why should we believe this particular twitterer? I really can't see that happening, would be one of hell of a mess but like most people on here, it's way over my head. Edit - Just read the above pos from Dave, more interesting now. Cause its on the market websites If it does turn out that Mr Whyte is still involved and SFA was lied to on application for SFA liscence could turn intersting. Don't think they will revoke your liscence probably automatic demotion to lowest tier be an apt punshment at end of the season. Edited November 14, 2013 by Bloomogganners 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 No wonder you cheered Sir Charles of Normandy to the rafters while he was stealing your money, all he had to do was throw in a few WATP's and a couple of No Surrenders. Laughable. ^^^ And reduced to lies - meltdown complete. Fhud by name, fhud by nature. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Is that when Dhensebhore and the Killie fan started debating 'RA sellik and their annual poppygate shame? Bang on topic you say? No, it's when the rangers fans magically started using the term company, when discussing their club. thanks to press reports on the 12th. up until the 12th, it was all the club this, the club that, show liquidation the red card, scarves on the gates. RIP, all that stuff. magically we saw an increase of new rangers profiles being created all of whom apparently always knew there was a separate company, but had never posted on here... ironically, the vast majority of posters who had posted on here their club was closing down, disappeared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Shortly after rangers fans starting talking about Celtic fans on a rangers thread, I would suggest it is a coincidence. Malcolm Murray appears on radio Scotland podcast. No surrender phrase comes up and is discussed in podcast. The subject is discussed on here. The fact that the BBC podcast took place after celtics trip to Amsterdam is purely coincidental. If the podcast had taken place before the Ajax game and discussions on here had taken place before the Ajax game... Would you have stood up and said the rangers fans were deflecting from it by discussing Celtic? When the two topics took place, and when they were discussed in here has no relation to each other. As regardless of when they took place, both would have been discussed. Likewise if only one had taken place, then it still would have been discussed. There seems to be a mix up here, i took your previous post to mean the original MM comments and there wasn't that much said about them at the time. I haven't listened to the 2nd show in which tom English brought it up again but before that show he was being badgered by Celtic fans about the comments and Tom can be a little weak on air and on twitter. Which would back up my opinion that the whole he said "no surrender" is a crock of shite. If MM had appeared before the AJax game, i don't think that "no surrender" would have been brought up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 You can't really see what happening Bennett .. Imran and Charlie making a right c**t of trying to shaft Whyte and it back firing? Did you read what i posted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Celtic fans riot in Amsteram with 8 police officers injured and 28 of them arrested. Certain P's and D's start making an issue of "No Surrender". Deflector shields to full Mr Sulu.... So talk about it on the CORRECT AND RELEVANT thread then. Fanny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So talk about it on the CORRECT AND RELEVANT thread then. Fanny. Ok lets discuss someone saying No surrender, thats keeping it on topic.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Murray's use of that phrase had no negative connotations for me. And I've yet to hear of another Rangers supporter taking that view. "No Surrender". It's such an innocent, everyday phrase, isn't it Bendy? I just did a search for the phrase "No surrender" in my work Inbox. That's over 30,000 emails. Didn't find it mentioned once. I can only conclude my work is overrun by hysterical, perenially-offended mhorons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Handing it back - this thread has been off topic since the very first page. What do you know about page 1, you were still a Dumbarton fan when page 1 was written ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 There seems to be a mix up here, i took your previous post to mean the original MM comments and there wasn't that much said about them at the time. I haven't listened to the 2nd show in which tom English brought it up again but before that show he was being badgered by Celtic fans about the comments and Tom can be a little weak on air and on twitter. Which would back up my opinion that the whole he said "no surrender" is a crock of shite. If MM had appeared before the AJax game, i don't think that "no surrender" would have been brought up. i was talking about this weeks podcast, i think the podcast itself and the no surrender chat took place from the night of the podcast, well into the next day on here, and was a direct reaction to the podcast being published. it certainly wasn't discussed as a route of deflecting conversation away from amsterdam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Cause its on the market websites If it does turn out that Mr Whyte is still involved and SFA was lied to on application for SFA liscence could turn intersting. Don't think they will revoke your liscence probably automatic demotion to lowest tier be an apt punshment at end of the season. You need to be a member to get on that site but perhaps you could spell it out in laymans terms? If Whytes still involved i reckon we're f**ked, demotion and a hefty fine. I still think that the SFA should be protecting the fans who put money into football. Pre season i posted about the SFA stepping in and getting to the bottom of this but took a fair bit of stick for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 ^^^ And reduced to lies - meltdown complete. Fhud by name, fhud by nature. ^^^^^^^^ Still no explanations for his apologia for bigotry so reduced to mindless insults. Nobody's impressed. Can No Surrender be construed as Sectarian? Did Murray know this? I'll keep asking, you keep making a fool of yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 "No Surrender". It's such an innocent, everyday phrase, isn't it Bendy? I just did a search for the phrase "No surrender" in my work Inbox. That's over 30,000 emails. Didn't find it mentioned once. I can only conclude my work is overrun by hysterical, perenially-offended mhorons. What is wrong with you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So talk about it on the CORRECT AND RELEVANT thread then. Fanny. He even started one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Ok lets discuss Malcolm Murray, a figurehead and public face for change at Ibrox saying No Surrender, thats keeping it on topic.... I think if you had expanded your post to include the person saying it.... that would be on topic... a discussion for example about rangers fans singing No Surrender (to the ira) would probably be off topic for this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomogganners Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Why Dave? The RIFC account show that Craig has lodged a legal claim ... that's not anyone's imagination. Their own legal bods will not give a 100% guarantee that it will cannot succeed. Craig and Imran have openly admitted to conning Whyte .. Those papers are central as to who owned the assets at the time. An illegal sale is an illegal sale. Try retaining a stolen car if you bought it illegally. He may fail ,, he may not .. but I doubt it's over. http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/about/pdf/gp4.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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