wunfellaff Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 So it Sevco 5088 Ltd bought the assets, where's the Sevco Scotland Ltd coming from? That's a different company, registered in a different county? Is Sevco 5088 a holding company for Sevco Scotland? Wasn't Seco Scotland what Sevco 5088 transferred Ibrox etc over to ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18509619 "Any attempt to adopt the name 'The Rangers Football Club' would require the approval of the liquidators, BDO." "Companies House has said that a name change application has not been made by Sevco 5088, and may not be possible." "The consortium claims the full company name has already been transferred over by the administrators Duff & Phelps." " 'The Rangers Football Club P.L.C.', which has the registered company number SC004276, has not yet been dissolved, but will inevitably be liquidated due to unpaid debts." OK I think I got it now cheers. D&P have gave Charles Green permission to trade under the oldco's name at the moment using the oldco's logos and badges. The oldco will change it's trading name next week so Charlie boy can then obtain the trading name and copyright images of the oldco. So Charles Green will then trade under the oldco's name if D&P allow them too procure the copyrighted imaging ?. now enters the majority shareholder in the oldco GIO DI STEFANO at the meeting to change the oldco's name to let Green acquire the oldco's trading images ! this will be fun ha ha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There would be if you attempted to pass it off as the business it's named similarly to, though. Gotcha. I can see where you're going wrong now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Wasn't Seco Scotland what Sevco 5088 transferred Ibrox etc over to ? Was it? I knew Sevco 5088 was registered in England so all the Sevco Scotland stuff has me wondering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Rangers have been sold as an ongoing business undertaking... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only A Game ! Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Unless I'm mistaken, they don't need to change anything. In theory, there's nothing to stop me setting up a company called Sevco 5089 Ltd., and trading under the name "The Football Club Rangers" or similar. There is. Companies House wouldnt allow you to register those names and Sevco/Rangers would enforce removal or name change. (just like the parent company of Easyjet sucessfully (in most cases) did a few years ago with over 80 companies who used the name 'Easy' in their name 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 OK I think I got it now cheers. D&P have gave Charles Green permission to trade under the oldco's name at the moment using the oldco's logos and badges. The oldco will change it's trading name next week so Charlie boy can then obtain the trading name and copyright images of the oldco. So Charles Green will then trade under the oldco's name if D&P allow them too procure the copyrighted imaging ?. now enters the majority shareholder in the oldco GIO DI STEFANO at the meeting to change the oldco's name to let Green acquire the oldco's trading images ! this will be fun ha ha. Argh. No that BBC article is bullshit. You'll note that it was posted over a month ago and there's has been no follow-up whatsoever. I'm putting it down to a slow news day and the YTS boy phoning round looking for something to submit to his boss. Sevco are already trading as Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Over Scotland Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Sevco are already trading as Rangers. Proof please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowCeltic.org Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There would be if you attempted to pass it off as the business it's named similarly to, though. Absolutely, I agree. Unless I'm mistaken, the only people who could object to it currently would be Duff and Phelps, who are tied in with Green/Whyte/Ticketus etc. No idea if BDO could once they take charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Was it? I knew Sevco 5088 was registered in England so all the Sevco Scotland stuff has me wondering. Sevco 5088 appears to have been an off the shelf name which isn't uncommon. The transfer to Sevco Scotland was, as Charles Green has stated, to make whatever may arise a Scottish business entity Edited July 23, 2012 by The Old Northerner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowCeltic.org Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There is. Companies House wouldnt allow you to register those names and Sevco/Rangers would enforce removal or name change. (just like the parent company of Easyjet sucessfully (in most cases) did a few years ago with over 80 companies who used the name 'Easy' in their name They're not registering it as a company though, they're merely using it as a 'trading name'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The part that says there's no problem with it. There are in fact numerous problems with it. The fact that they will likely be overcome doesn't mean they don't exist. Cool. We're making progress. Can we agree that I have posted an answer to those who say that the prohibition on business names is the problem and have shown that it is not the problem? Yes? Super. Now, quid pro quo, can you explain what the problem is. It's not particularly convincing to say 'there are numerous problems' without explaining what those problems are. Genuine question, btw, my posts have been in response to those peddling pish about pheonix companies etc. If there's actually some other problem I haven't considered I'd be interested to hear what it is. That way we can all be better informed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 They're not registering it as a company though, they're merely using it as a 'trading name'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Over Scotland Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 They're not registering it as a company though, they're merely using it as a 'trading name'. If I opened a cafe with the company name "Chicken Wings Over Scotland", I still couldn't trade as "McDonalds" and put that name over the door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 The bloke in the photo - looks like Gordon Smith checking someone's double-contract before shoving it into a Rangers poly bag with the others, destined for the shredder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Sevco 5088 appears to have been an off the shelf name which isn't uncommon. The transfer to Sevco Scotland was, as Charles Green has stated, to make whatever may arise a Scottish business entity Ah right. So the 'rangers assets' have been through two of his companies so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Was it? I knew Sevco 5088 was registered in England so all the Sevco Scotland stuff has me wondering. I thought Sevco Scotland was created to bring the whole thing under the umbrella of Scots law. Something Green probably hadn't condidered at the start. I also thought (do a lot of thinking, me) that the bold Gio only had one share. Can't remember where I saw that, sorry. Edited July 23, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If I opened a cafe with the company name "Chicken Wings Over Scotland", I still couldn't trade as "McDonalds" and put that name over the door. You could if McDonalds gave you permission to use their name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If I opened a cafe with the company name "Chicken Wings Over Scotland", I still couldn't trade as "McDonalds" and put that name over the door. You could if McDonalds gave you permission to use their name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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