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Todays release on the Brechin website:

Like the way they stuck the word 'Brechin' in there just to crush any other theories.

Shame, spoilt a good story and a fair amount of "sporting integrity" pish.

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Ah, how i'm going to miss this thread.....I head off for my holidays tonight safe in the knowledge that Sevco Scotland will start the season in Division 3 of the SFL and that I have the Dundee derby to look forward to in the season ahead.

I can now head off to relax without expecting any real nasty surprises and anything else that happens is likely to be the same as finding loose chips in the bag when you finish your McDonalds......just a little unexpected bonus.

However, I am hoping to collect my 'No to Newco' T-shirt from the cheap T shirt shop before I go. It's not for me, it's for the missus. She has no idea what it means, but I figured even the most seething of orcs fuelled up on sangria and cheap local vodka from the all inclusive bar is unlikely to punch someone else's wife, so playing the safety card on this one....both ways.

And I don't know if it's been mentioned properly, other that we should all try and make it to see and SFL team in support of the diddy league of gentlemen who helped ensure no stitch up took place, but I have one more suggestion......

Just to ensure that the seething orcs have the happiest of Christmas's can we seriously consider going to support whoever they play on Boxing Day en mass? Can you imagine maybe 6000- 8000 diddy fans all wearing No to Newco T-Shirts singing the old Slade classic in a real show of diddy solidarity? How very very apt...... adios for now amigos!! See you in a fortnight!

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Since it's still 1957 in Brechin The Newco hordes' tradtional songs will only be outmoded by eighty years or so. Should make them feel slightly more proud as their shell suits flap in the summer breeze.

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Ah, how i'm going to miss this thread.....I head off for my holidays tonight safe in the knowledge that Sevco Scotland will start the season in Division 3 of the SFL and that I have the Dundee derby to look forward to in the season ahead.

I can now head off to relax without expecting any real nasty surprises and anything else that happens is likely to be the same as finding loose chips in the bag when you finish your McDonalds......just a little unexpected bonus.

However, I am hoping to collect my 'No to Newco' T-shirt from the cheap T shirt shop before I go. It's not for me, it's for the missus. She has no idea what it means, but I figured even the most seething of orcs fuelled up on sangria and cheap local vodka from the all inclusive bar is unlikely to punch someone else's wife, so playing the safety card on this one....both ways.

And I don't know if it's been mentioned properly, other that we should all try and make it to see and SFL team in support of the diddy league of gentlemen who helped ensure no stitch up took place, but I have one more suggestion......

Just to ensure that the seething orcs have the happiest of Christmas's can we seriously consider going to support whoever they play on Boxing Day en mass? Can you imagine maybe 6000- 8000 diddy fans all wearing No to Newco T-Shirts singing the old Slade classic in a real show of diddy solidarity? How very very apt...... adios for now amigos!! See you in a fortnight!

You're either naive or not really bothered.

Doesn't it worry you that the minute you step on the plane everything will just revert to normal? They're just waiting on you leaving you know. :rolleyes:

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Shame I've already got holidays planned up north next week. I was rather looking forward to a couple of thousand drunken thugs invading all of the pubs and singing tedious pish like "no one likes us, we don't care".

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Hopefully the SFL and SFA make it clear to clubs that they are not allowed to switch home games against Rangers to a larger ground unless there are exceptional circumstances. If there are security concerns about Rangers fans travelling en masse to small towns, then there should just be an outright ban on Rangers fans at away games.

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Hopefully the SFL and SFA make it clear to clubs that they are not allowed to switch home games against Rangers to a larger ground unless there are exceptional circumstances. If there are security concerns about Rangers fans travelling en masse to small towns, then there should just be an outright ban on Rangers fans at away games.

I agree in principal, although they'll just try and acquire tickets for the home end and potentially stir up more trouble that way.

Anyway, it's not happening... and I presume this is what you originally meant:

...there should just be an outright ban on Rangers fans

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Agreed, if their ground only holds 1500 then just sell 1500 tickets.

What's to stop st mirren (just for arguments sake) switching a league game against celtic, to ibrox just to "maximise revenue" ?

Honour and integrity. More likely Morton switching a home tie against Johnstone Burgh in the Renfrewshire Cup to Keanie Park to get a bigger crowd.:P

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You're either naive or not really bothered.

Doesn't it worry you that the minute you step on the plane everything will just revert to normal? They're just waiting on you leaving you know. :rolleyes:

You do realise I can't answer that on the grounds that I may incriminate myself ph34r.gif

And do you mean the minute I leave, Scotland goes back in time? I knew these new fangled jet things were faster than propellers but I didn't realise they made the world spin on its axis....impressive!

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I think Celtic have real problems. Their "Security Council" veto with their Rangers mates is now gone. Celtic are very isolated in the SPL - previously their bestest buddies were Rangers. Indeed, their only buddies.

Completely agree, which is why I think Celtic have been so quiet, at least on an official level. They know they are the next target and they are keeping as low a public profile as they can to try and keep the target off them for as long as possible.

No, but now the dust is settling I bet we can take an educated guess. As with many aspects of this saga the analysis of the fans has been sharper and the scrutiny more intense.

It may be in the interests of moving on we don't want to examine to closely the behind-closed-doors intrigue of the discussions and negotiations of recent weeks. However I don't think we can call for wholesale changes to the corporate governance of our game without exposing the machinations of the last few weeks in full.

Completely agree. And if the full works do end up on show, I don't think it'll just be the expected suspects who end up shown in a poor light.

They were quiet certainly - but if their approach was to use the Media, the SFA and SPL Chief Execs to push the agenda that suited Celtic (and by extension Sevco) best, then it is anything but conciliatory in my view - sleekit might be a better word ;) A true conciliatory approach by Celtic would be to see the way the wind was blowing and voluntarily offer to amend the SPL voting terms and TV rights distribution (esp given that TV money is a disproportionately small percentage of Celtic's turnover) to help cushion the blow for others. Celtic have/had a real chance to claim the moral high ground here but in truth, they have been doing everything in their power to protect the position of their main "rivals". I'm not naive enough to think Celtic would voluntarily make things worse for themselves of course - but it is an example of what conciliatory would really mean in practice.

I disagree that Celtic used the media. I think the media pushed their preferred agenda because without the Old Firm they lose half their sportsdesk. Journalists have been briefed already on the expected cut backs, as have other companies who rely on the msm for business. I have a friend who works for one of the companies that provide the pictures that we see in the papers, I won't say which one but there aren't many, and they have already been told to expect the worst. The guff being spouted by Jabba and Jackson was to protect their own jobs. The status quo means safety, to them at least.

As for the SFA and SPL, they work on behalf of all member clubs. Neil Doncaster would be in no position to promote one view if 10 of his members were at odds with it. As I said above, I think if it all comes out, there will be a few surprises with regards to who has been doing what.

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Hopefully the SFL and SFA make it clear to clubs that they are not allowed to switch home games against Rangers to a larger ground unless there are exceptional circumstances.

If there are security concerns about Rangers fans travelling en masse to small towns, then there should just be an outright ban on Rangers fans at away games.

It would not surprise me at all if the police decide to do that if the travelling support do not behave themselves.

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Hopefully the SFL and SFA make it clear to clubs that they are not allowed to switch home games against Rangers to a larger ground unless there are exceptional circumstances. If there are security concerns about Rangers fans travelling en masse to small towns, then there should just be an outright ban on Rangers fans at away games.

I genuinely can't remember the last time a Scottish Cup tie was moved... even Spartans hosted Livingston and St Mirren on earth embankments at old City Park... and all SFL3 clubs have grounds with safety certificates and ability to segregate (which I'm sure all - bar perhaps Annan? - must've used at some point in the last few years).

It'd harm the sporting integrity of the competition if, for example, some clubs played 2H 2A v Rangers and others 2H 2N.

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If many of of their matches are on radio or televised this season they will definitely be docked a few points over those matches.

I would bet a lot of cash that they can sing anything they like and will not get any points docked at all. Have the last few weeks not taught you that those running our game will do everything they can to help Rangers/Newco.

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Completely agree, which is why I think Celtic have been so quiet, at least on an official level. They know they are the next target and they are keeping as low a public profile as they can to try and keep the target off them for as long as possible.

So when are the 11 other clubs going to get around to blowing this 11-1 rule out of the water then? This would be the obvious thing to sort out first I would have thought if they're bleating on about how money's going to be tight?

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STV Sport@STVSportRangers ask SFA to set up a panel to rule on players leaving Ibrox http://bit.ly/Lo2jDh

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So how long will THIS take?

No time at all because it won't happen. Sevco cannot circumvent the TUPE legislation, neither can the SFA. The SFA will be crazy even to entertain such a request.

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STV Sport@STVSportRangers ask SFA to set up a panel to rule on players leaving Ibrox http://bit.ly/Lo2jDh

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So how long will THIS take?

Not long, after Sevco ask for Andy Goram to be their nominated panel member, and his 2 votes carry the day..

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