ayrmad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 it hasn't been swept under the carpet, it was given to the SFL on a plate with a side order of cash. They tossed it away, the SPL chairmen were probably less than impressed. I don't see any chance of change especially in league size in the foreseeable future. That'll be fine, we've always got room for the smug c***s, see you soon, don't dare cry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The ICT and St Mirren "statements" make no sense at all. Even if that's what they did feel, the should have just kept quiet. I think they were an ill thought out "Come on then" to the fans, trying to push their support into backing the club for listening to them. The timing was poor though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin M Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I think they were an ill thought out "Come on then" to the fans, trying to push their support into backing the club for listening to them. The timing was poor though! I think they were genuinely shitting themselves to be honest. I think they bought into Doncaster's scaremongering, which (hopefully) will turn out to be working on behalf of Sky etc to try to honour existing deals. Now that we (think we) know what'll happen, the reality may not be so bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Unfortunately this act has largely been circumvented by modern day employment practices of paying "bonuses" that make up a large chunk of the wage. Some even give bonuses solely in vouchers that can only be spent in certain places - the Tommy Shops all over again. "Largely been subverted"? I've never heard of anyone being paid in vouchers. So long as bonuses are paid in the denomination of the Realm it doesn't matter if 90% of your pay is in bonuses, as long as the rest is above the minimum wage. Am I just too middle class to have noticed this supposed subversion of the law? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ummm, the Truck Acts? It's been illegal to pay employees in scrip for over a century. Do you mean all those humpings I've been giving my secretary for working late could land me in the pokey? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Who is this Di Stefano welt? Alfredo di Stefano. Won loads of European Cups with Real Madrid and went on to be their manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 todays update on RM http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=231758 bet you it doesn't last as long as this thread or prove as entertaining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I wonder if this idea might now get a bit of life, cos I'm sure Mr Regan reads this forum. I suspect he got his "financial armageddon" idea from one of my posts way back, when I compared this clusterf*ck to the asteroid's destruction of the dinosaurs, and in "Armageddon" it was an asteroid playing the baddie. (jokin', like) It was as simple as asking the largest team(Dundee) how much they made of a match day, £40k times 18 to get £720k, Sevco won't even be asked for a quarter of that, if anything,which is more likely as Livi put up no bond in the 3rd, obviously nobody in power gives a shit wether the 3rd division clubs lose money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I think they were genuinely shitting themselves to be honest. I Very possibly. But it shows the problems in having clubs that have no concept of PR, when issuing statements. For no one to be able to say to Gilmour and Cameron - "look, you can't say that" is a problem. This will be a stain on St Mirren and ICT for a long time to come. It won't be forgotten. Some Falkirk fans still hate Gilmour for his comments about Falkirk 10 years ago. Personally, those didn't bother me, as I thought he was in the right. I despise him and Cameron now though. I'm not sure whether I'll end up goign back to watch Scottish football in the future, but I certainly won't give a penny to either club whilst Cameron and Gilmour are still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Very possibly. But it shows the problems in having clubs that have no concept of PR, when issuing statements. For no one to be able to say to Gilmour and Cameron - "look, you can't say that" is a problem. This will be a stain on St Mirren and ICT for a long time to come. It won't be forgotten. Some Falkirk fans still hate Gilmour for his comments about Falkirk 10 years ago. Personally, those didn't bother me, as I thought he was in the right. I despise him and Cameron now though. I'm not sure whether I'll end up goign back to watch Scottish football in the future, but I certainly won't give a penny to either club whilst Cameron and Gilmour are still there. Why did they say it though? It's been plain as day that division one was the least likely of all options. I'd go so far as to say it was ever even a possibility. These guys aren't morons. Just spectacularly misguided. Why not just declare your vote and move on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Over Scotland Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Serious question: can anyone work out what it is the SFA are trying to achieve now? http://wingsland.podgamer.com/with-terror-and-with-fear/ (With bonus DISCO TUNES!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Brian McNally @McNallyMirror 6m SFA to demand more info on the faceless investors at Newco Rangers before allowing them a licence At last they are getting tough Retweeted by alextomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Brian McNally on Twitter has just tweeted that Green has had to move from safe house to safe house because of the animosity of 'Rangers' fans. Incredible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Do you mean all those humpings I've been giving my secretary for working late could land me in the pokey? She says your performance wouldn't give the minimum wage a fright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I am beginning to think Rangers will not Play a competitive game next season in any division. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why did they say it though? I have no idea. As I said before, the Aberdeen statement was really the template for what had to be said by these clubs, if anything. A rallying call to the fans now that the final situation was now known, following the SFL vote. A recognition that the D3 decision now meant that any potential D1 safety net which might have appeared was now no longer a possibility. They could have said everything they did say, without their unwarranted and absolutely shameful attack on the SFL clubs. That's the baffling element to it. I suspect it is explainable by concluding that, as men, they are a pair of utter wanks. Egotistical, spiteful and ragefaced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strathclydesaint Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Was trying to find this thread in the SFL3 index. Took me ages About time it was moved? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm sure Div's on holiday, so it might not get moved until he's back. To be fair though, this is the spirtual home of this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Well each to their own, but I'm afraid I see it as a flimsly dilute sop - perhaps caused by internal SPL indecisiveness - that they thought SFL would fall for. It offerred nothing bar cash they might've earnt anyway and some loose generalisms. All else relied on trusting SPL clubs benevolent attitude in future, and given how Doncaster & Co had gone about "persuading" SFL clubs to accept, it's no surprise that trust extended about as far as they could throw 'em. It included rigged voting and board structures thrown-in for good measure. Personally, such watery vagaries weren't even approaching being worth circumventing sporting integrity for. Well any changes now still rely on the benevolent attitude of the SPL clubs and surely you have to agree that any negotiation is now tainted by a lack of co-operation from the SFL over the Rangers affair. My point is for anyone to say reconstruction has been swept under the carpet is availing themselves of a few facts. Reconstruction can only happen if compromises can be found, a compromise was offered to the SFL and they turned down the biggest bargaining chip. If I remember correctly no details were set in stone either, the SFL were merely asked if the board could negotiate a settlement for reconstruction with the SPL. I doubt the SFL and SPL will meet on such an equal footing again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have no idea. As I said before, the Aberdeen statement was really the template for what had to be said by these clubs, if anything. A rallying call to the fans now that the final situation was now known, following the SFL vote. A recognition that the D3 decision now meant that any potential D1 safety net which might have appeared was now no longer a possibility. They could have said everything they did say, without their unwarranted and absolutely shameful attack on the SFL clubs. That's the baffling element to it. I suspect it is explainable by concluding that, as men, they are a pair of utter wanks. Egotistical, spiteful and ragefaced. Possibly, Gilmour may have seen the loss of a million quid, personally, staring him in the face. We had almost agreed a Clyde-type CIC buyout, but Friday's decision could have affected income, therefore share value, reducing the price which could reasonably have been asked of the fans consortium. Maybe it'll setle down now and we can get on with getting the club into our supporters' trust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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