funky_nomad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 http://www.independe. ..fa-7952753.html "historical baggage." WTF?!?!?!?!?!? Going to Greece to ask for a bail-out??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 OK, give me a scenario where PTFC will profit financially in the coming season from recent developments. HERE Happy to help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Weer Everton not supposed to play in a friendly at Castle Greyskull pre-season as part of the Jelavic transfer agreement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Wasn't it demanded for SFL1? Not sure m8,i vaguely remember it being asked of,whether it was to play in the 1st or just to play in whatever league i cant say for certain without checking it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 How can they play a friendly against Olympiacos at Ibrox when it will cost them God knows how much just to get the Greek team over here and on the field? The Greeks aren't going to do it out of the goodness of their heart, and whilst maybe only taking a small percentage of the gate money it's still gonna be a farce if rankers have hardly any players. More bullshit from Green? Eh aye. Honestly dont think green had a clue what he's doing. He seems to have made extraordinary gambles that he could get working capital from st sales transfers and jump straight into spl. Its telling that with two mins of looking at the running costs bill Miller legged it yet green has just kept digging deeper with no clue how to bridge the thirty million shortfall that miller picked up on. Why would uefa let them off with football debts just as they're bringing in financial fair play?? Its hard to believe he's ever been involved with football before 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Noticed in the statement by Hamilton chairman Les Gray he reckons reconstruction has been swept under the carpet again. it hasn't been swept under the carpet, it was given to the SFL on a plate with a side order of cash. They tossed it away, the SPL chairmen were probably less than impressed. I don't see any chance of change especially in league size in the foreseeable future. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Notorious authority lapdogs, tbf. Their other hilarious quote was along the lines of "We figured 'the powers that be' would be placing Sevco into SFL1 anyway, so we might as well vote yes"... "The powers that be"????? Isn't that, well, you and your pals???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Someone a dozen or so pages back said that as part of a package of reforms to improve Scottish football - Jonathan Watson should be banned from ever making another 'Only an Excuse' Christmas show. On the contrary, despite the last three years or so being utter, utter pish - if he can't make a good un' this Christmas, he really is finished. I reckon he should be allowed to crack on, I mean, he's got some material this close season to work on. Having said that, he'll likely just do Dennis Law mumbling 'Well, you know...' or Frank 'Frankie Boy' McAvennie gurning 'Where's the burdz...' again. Would be funny as fcuk if he came out with a belting show full of Sevco material. It's either that or re-runs of Still Game, Jackie Bird wearing a glittery top while Phil Cunninghame and Ally Bain bore the tits off us alongside that bird fae' Capercaillie. Get the finger out Watson. Deliver the goods. Yep, I said as much a few months back. The tottie faced twat's of course now got an excuse to put in Dennis Law because of his titular (emphasis on the first syllable) involvement with the Retard's "go to football" face saving campaign. Anything short of a full out slagfest against the Ibrocs, Chic Young and Jimmy The Succulent Lamb will be a travesty. Still, this has been a year of momentous events - surely even he can achieve a miracle all of his own? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Must really be in the shit if he's gone begging to the Greeks.... He's heard that there are millions of strikers to be had on free transfers. Coat, I'll get it meself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Its hard to believe he's ever been involved with football before Well the fans of Sheffield United did warn them what they were getting into with this guy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Come again with what? It may have been badly worded on my part but it`s perfectly clear that there can only be one reason for there being a single relegation place from a twelve team league. To protect the lower order of that league . Until Sevco make the dizzying heights of SFL1 that will remain the case. How many relegation places does SFL have, and is it more or less than SPL? it hasn't been swept under the carpet, it was given to the SFL on a plate with a side order of cash. They tossed it away, the SPL chairmen were probably less than impressed. I don't see any chance of change especially in league size in the foreseeable future. Tbf, all they were given was a "not legally binding" plate, with a serving of a committee on top, an imbalanced board, and £1M cash (itself assuming SFL couldn't generate - for example - over £50k per game for 20 Rangers SFL1 games, noting Sky-BBC pay £160k for Scottish Cup games, or some other ratio surpassing £1M). It was a measly scrap. Edited July 17, 2012 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why are you still buying this shite of a rag? Or, did you see it at the hairdressers? Newspaper rack in Costa Coffee in the Eastgate! Wouldn't buy it for love nor money, but as a lesson in the state of Scottish sports jourrnalism it is unbeatable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Honestly dont think green had a clue what he's doing. He seems to have made extraordinary gambles that he could get working capital from st sales transfers and jump straight into spl. Its telling that with two mins of looking at the running costs bill Miller legged it yet green has just kept digging deeper with no clue how to bridge the thirty million shortfall that miller picked up on. Why would uefa let them off with football debts just as they're bringing in financial fair play?? Its hard to believe he's ever been involved with football before I beg to differ. He does however seem to be stymied by others every step of the way. I mean, you'd almost think that he designed that SPL 'last chance saloon' brochure to deliberately make sure he didn't stand a cat in hell's chance of being admitted. As soon as the SPL chairmen saw the 'We are Rangers' bombast - his tea was oot'. Good work there Charlie. Mission accomplished. Then he was stymied again when the SFL actually voted to allow Sevco a place in their league. It seems that no matter what poor Charlie tries to do to see his newco wiped off the face of the earth before launch - some fcuking cockwombles keep coming along and throwing Sevco lifelines. He must be fair scunnered by now, and wondering just what he has to do to make sure he doesn't have to actually own a football club who, erm, play football and have a ton of expenses. I'm sure he thought his plan would have been concluded by now, and some other poor saps would be fighting for the scraps in Glasgow, while he joined Whytey in Monaco for some well-earned R&R. Edited July 17, 2012 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sorry, just too many `mays` in there for me to take much solace. The one `may` you don`t mention is a reduction in our SPL funding because unlike yourselves, I fully expect attempts at renegotiation of the deal. So you expect the SPL to attempt to renegotiate that deal. How's that going to go? Doncaster: Would you consider renegotiating the deal? Longmuir: What's in it for us? Doncaster £0.6m per year instead of £2m. Longmuir: Erm, no thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I spent time in victoria b.c and went to a number of OF games there. The fans shared the same club at these matches and it was all good banter, the more dafty doe eyed bigoty ones seemed to be the canadian born ones, most of the scots worked together or played football together. Maybe being outside the goldfish bowl of the west coast they tend to be scottish first old flim flam second. The reason I went? The club used for the gathering was attached to the best strip joint in town. That's weird. I'm originally from Victoria. I have also noticed that Scots who have spent time outside this island are usually more willing to be open minded about everything from the Old Firm rivalry to questions of a wider national identity (but won't go too far into that). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Didn't they ask this off Livingston before letting them play after they were kicked into the 3rd.In fact, if i am not mistaken,it was £750k. Edit: as Ayrmad had already pointed this out before i read the original post I wonder if this idea might now get a bit of life, cos I'm sure Mr Regan reads this forum. I suspect he got his "financial armageddon" idea from one of my posts way back, when I compared this clusterf*ck to the asteroid's destruction of the dinosaurs, and in "Armageddon" it was an asteroid playing the baddie. (jokin', like) Edited July 17, 2012 by Happy Buddie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 How many relegation places does SFL have, and is it more or less than SPL? Tbf, all they were given was a "not legally binding" plate, with a serving of a committee on top, an imbalanced board, and £1M cash (itself assuming SFL couldn't generate - for example - over £50k per game for 20 Rangers SFL1 games, noting Sky-BBC pay £160k for Scottish Cup games, or some other ratio surpassing £1M). It was a measly scrap. I don't think you can compare the value of a league game to a cup game directly. There were a few guarantees like a playoff and an increase in annual settlement. The true reconstruction would take a bit longer but at least it would be a co-operative start to changing the overall structure of the game. The SPL offered an olive branch (there happened to be a particularly rotten olive on it) but the SFL decided not to take it. Rangers in SFL1 would have been a catalyst for change, now with uncertain media and sponsorship the top clubs are going to be more conservative than ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Well the fans of Sheffield United did warn them what they were getting into with this guy Having discussed this with Sweet Pete who knows a thing or two in this field, Craig Whyte's involvement was logical and largely successful - for one pound he sold the Arsenal shares and pocketed the cash. Charles Green's role is bewildering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeTeeJag Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Honestly dont think green had a clue what he's doing. He seems to have made extraordinary gambles that he could get working capital from st sales transfers and jump straight into spl. Its telling that with two mins of looking at the running costs bill Miller legged it yet green has just kept digging deeper with no clue how to bridge the thirty million shortfall that miller picked up on. Why would uefa let them off with football debts just as they're bringing in financial fair play?? Its hard to believe he's ever been involved with football before My feeling exactly. I reckon Green has found himself as last man standing and he knows that despite all the chest beating from guys like Watty and Brown no one is going to help him out with a few quid. He also knows that if he walks away now then rankers 2.0 will be no more and Ipox will implode. His backers were people that liked the idea of owning a club so said that if he laid the groundwork and smoothed out the problems then they would be in, but over time I figure they have all distanced themselves from what they will see as a poisoned chalice. Why would anyone want to invest in a club whose fans can be seen on tv protesting and abusing the only person that has actually stuck around long enough to keep them with a club to support. This "we still want to be rangers, but we aren't actually rangers" routine is only masking the inevitable in my opinion. He will eventually walk away claiming he tried to do all he could but "the sins of the father" were too great. Meanwhile the SFA will be having to decide if they should let rankers 2.0 into the fold and pray without any guarantees that they can play a full season, or claim that they tried everything to help NewCo take it's place in the 3rd but it just wasn't possible. Green is spinning plates right now but eventually they will all fall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 it hasn't been swept under the carpet, it was given to the SFL on a plate with a side order of cash. They tossed it away, the SPL chairmen were probably less than impressed. I don't see any chance of change especially in league size in the foreseeable future. Shite. The SFL were offered a "probably committee to look at the possiiblity of restructure sometime in November, maybe". and i think the SPL representation on it was to be 3 v 2 SFL Offering £1million was pretty stupid considering the SFL will have the c***s in the SFL for three seasons and can negotiate something better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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