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Why the f**k is this all being left to Clyde FC to make intelligent, arse kicking statements? Are there really no other clubs who can do something like like this? Clyde have made two statements that make the declaration of Arbroath and Declaration of Independence look like the lyrics for a boyzone song and no other SFL club has followed suit.

The best part for me is the ludicrousness of being asked to vote on a club admission and being given absolutely no information on it. If it wasn't so anger inducing, I'd laugh.

PS. Give Dundee the SPL spot, then have them swap places with Clyde.biggrin.gif

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Right, a few people have had a blast at these but as of 3pm this afternoon, this seems to be the decisions clubs will taking towards proposal number two - allowing the SFL board to put Sevco into the First Division for the new season.

Definitely No

Dunfermline Athletic

Livingston

Raith Rovers

Greenock Morton

Cowdenbeath

Arbroath

East Fife

Annan Athletic

Berwick Rangers

Clyde

Elgin City

Peterhead

Queen's Park

Stranraer

Stirling Albion

Definitely Yes

Stenhousemuir

Brechin City

Did announce 'No', proposals may have effect

Falkirk

Partick Thistle

Hamilton Academical

Undecided

Albion Rovers - potentially leaning to yes?

Dumbarton - were yes, being revised.

Ayr United - chairman Cameron Lachlan seemed opposed, rumours on Ayr's forum suggest a yes vote could be forthcoming

Forfar Athletic - non-committal statement

Queen of the South - non-committal statement

Alloa Athletic - a potential no?

East Stirlingshire - statement thanking fans for their views, refusing to disclose how they will vote.

Montrose - deafening silence?

Won't be Voting

Dundee

Airdrie United

Which means, if my take on club's positions are correct, it's 15-2 to the good guys, with three who were originally 'no', eight undecided's and two abstentions. It's looking good thus far. :unsure:

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Here's a warning for Brechin City - if you think voting 'yes' will one day lead to you reaching the SPL yourselves. Think again. The SPL will bring in a rule whereby your hedge must be amended to form 6,000 of these, they must be under cover, and they all must have under-hedge-heating installed.

Vote 'no'. It's for the best.

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Having read what's on offer I am fairly relaxed about the outcome of the SFL vote.

There is no way on God's green earth that anyone with half a brain could endorse these proposals. There is nothing here that could be remotely described as increasing the lot of any clubs in the SFL and furthermore there's big red warning stickers all over it with their insistence that none of this is binding. In fact I'd go so far as to say that should SEVCO be admitted to the 1st division then half the proposals will be thrown out at the first opportunity.

This is less like the dangling carrot we were anticipating and more like a bit of poo on a stick with the powers that be hoping that if they wave it about fast enough we'll think it's chocolate.

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who is in charge at Clyde ? They seem to be very on the ball.

Fans, when it comes down to brass tax. They're a CIC (Community Interest Company), a form of social enterprise.

Surely counter proposals have been lodged by various SFL clubs by now.

Telegraph said Clyde proposed an amendment but it was "dismissed"; however, it's not been reported elsewhere.

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So the vote tomorrow is little more than the SFL clubs being asked a hypothetical question or two then is it?

I read the scaremongering on here that Sevco could be smuggled back into the SPL but that would be suicide for the SPL clubs, season tickets sold after the vote to dismiss Sevco's application could easily be claimed back and if clubs were to fight it in court they'd end up paying expenses too, perfect case for a group action against the SPL itself too. Not to mention the lost revenue from casual customers.

Let me put it another way - how can a club apply for membership to the SFL when they don't have a name and don't exist? They have not, yet, applied. Everything that has happened to date has been at Doncaster and Regan's bidding (and certain SPL clubs, no doubt).

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Proposal made to SFL. Eh??? This it??? Really???

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In the event that a final decision is not reached by 30th November 2012, the Scottish FA will seek to implement a new structure in time for the 2013/2014 season. The members of the working party including Chairman will be announced in the near future and will ensure consultation with all stakeholders prior to final recommendations being made.

I might be reading this wrong, but is this bassically saying that if you fail to make a descision (that they agree with) then we will basically push through the changes we want next season. In essance could they be threatening to restructure the league in such a way that Sevco FC play in a top league next season?

Also 30th Novemeber.....delay to season?

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Let me put it another way - how can a club apply for membership to the SFL when they don't have a name and don't exist? They have not, yet, applied. Everything that has happened to date has been at Doncaster and Regan's bidding (and certain SPL clubs, no doubt).

Let me put it another way, are you just being a pedant pulling me up on the way I phrased something or are you on the troll?

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Let me put it another way - how can a club apply for membership to the SFL when they don't have a name and don't exist? They have not, yet, applied. Everything that has happened to date has been at Doncaster and Regan's bidding (and certain SPL clubs, no doubt).

Hmm. Are we to deduce from this that Charlie Green's eye isn't on the ball marked 'here for the long run to restore this footballing institution to something at least approaching its former glory', but is instead focused on a ball marked 'get in quick, pay jack-shit for the assets, sell the players, make a buck, and get the fcuk out of town pronto'?

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Think I will be taking in a few Clyde games this season. Never thought I would hear myself say that a few years ago!

Their stance has been fantastic, I wish my own club and a few others had the balls to be honest.

Me, too. Easier to get to for me than Paisley. I'll be wearing my St Mirren scarf as a show of solidarity. Guaranteed, first game at Broadwood. 28th July vs Thistle.

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The draft proposal is an absolutely lolocaust. I can't see the maybes like Falkirk selling out for that, though Partick would probably still go for it. Longmuir is officially just as deep in this as Regan and Doncaster.

One of the things I really don't miss about not living in Scotland anymore is the question you're regularly asked within five minutes of an introduction - my answer was "St. Joseph's"

Shurely the safe answer for an Ayrshire child is "Queenie"?

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I might be reading this wrong, but is this bassically saying that if you fail to make a descision (that they agree with) then we will basically push through the changes we want next season. In essance could they be threatening to restructure the league in such a way that Sevco FC play in a top league next season?

Also 30th Novemeber.....delay to season?

Yeah, that is a strange condition to add. The proposal is : vote the newco into division 1 and we promise to consult about restructure. We'll give this consultation less than 6 months (despite being on the cards for years) and if we dont like what you come up with we'll put in place what we want anyway.

Baffling :blink:

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Looking at the proposals, the SFA will steamroller in a new setup if no agreement is reached by November. This will be for the start of next season.

At the same time, people are worried that SPL2 might happen. I think the above gives some idea of the timescales required to restructure.

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I might be reading this wrong, but is this bassically saying that if you fail to make a descision (that they agree with) then we will basically push through the changes we want next season. In essance could they be threatening to restructure the league in such a way that Sevco FC play in a top league next season?

I suppose it could easily be a reassurance... i.e. if 7-man committee can't reach a recommendation then SFA try to dictate one... but many SFL clubs clearly don't trust SFA currently.

Also 30th Novemeber.....delay to season?

I'd highly doubt that.

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Don't be so hasty,news is the big guy and his white horse are on their way to Ibrox to save them as i write.

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The Orcs thought they would be getting this famous white horse rider coming to their rescue:

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But all they'd done is ensured this other famous white horse rider arrived instead.

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:lol:

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