Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I can confirm that we were told that the payment will not be made this year. Aye, and I bet you believe the crowd figures Dumbarton give out are correct. Remember when they didn't announce them? Know why they re-started? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Rangers bought Andy Capp's wife? I thought her name was Kae Tinto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Rangers bought Andy Capp's wife? She might have been the more effective Flo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) BBC Radio 5 liveOn last night's Monday Night Club on 5 live, former Scotland international Pat Nevin feared that Rangers being demoted to Scottish Division Three would lead to TV companies withdrawing their backing of the Scottish game. "If that happens not only does it, I'm going to choose my words carefully here, destroy some of the clubs in the upper reaches of the SPL, I'm thinking particularly of Kilmarnock, but the money from those deals trickles all the way down to the first, second and third division and it could put any of those teams into administration as well." Scaremongering at its best. Someone ought to tell the wee man that a Scot invented Television and that Scots are a very resourceful and resilient people. If the worst case scenario were actually to occur, what is to stop a few wealthy cunning Scots people from starting up there own Independent Sports Channel and broadcasting it to the world as well as Scotland? I should think that crowds would shoot up during the short period of time that it would take to get such a channel up and running, especially if all matches in Scotland were kicking off at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon during that period. Precisely how much money does each individual Scottish club currently receive per season from television income!? I'm sure they could do better with an Independent Scottish Sports Channel broadcasting football at both Senior and Junior levels and maybe rugby as well as other sports in the late rounds of cup competitions and the last few weeks of seasons, etc. They could broadcast Big Brother type reality shows and latest up and coming musicians, etc at off peak sports times too! Edited July 10, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Rangers bought Andy Capp's wife? Flo is also the nickname for Homo floresiensis - a skeleton of an extinct species of humanoid. How apt.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) According to the Telegraph article (saying it's source was Eric Drysdale - of Raith) it's outlined in the Annual Settlement that if SPL has less than £6M to hand-out then the Settlement could be reduced. It is a good article in the Telegraph here If the complete sponsorship of the SPL is less than £6 then a) Doncaster should be sacked for that alone and b) we are all fucked. I cannot believe that all the sponsorship money (including SKY at the moment, Clydesdale Bank, Coca-Cola, William Hill, BBC, ESPN etc) is totalling less than £6M. Edited July 10, 2012 by NorthBank 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A wee musical interlude with Waaaaaaalter ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eCAv8jUg9k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) According to the Telegraph article (saying it's source was Eric Drysdale - of Raith) it's outlined in the Annual Settlement that if SPL has less than £6M to hand-out then the Settlement could be reduced. This is from the Clyde minutes of Doncaster's presentation last week :- The consequential impact on the SFL from the presentation was that the SFL would lose its entitlement to circa £2m per annum from the Settlement Agreement put together to compensate the SFL for the SPL breakaway, this was made very clear by Neil Doncaster. He told the clubs that if the SPL didn't have the money then they could not pay the SFL. The reality however, which was clear from the detailed figures, is that the SPL, whilst losing an enormous amount of funding, would have the cash to make payment; it is just that the SPL would not meet the legal obligation to the SFL as the cash would be used to finance the SPL teams. OK, so the next question has to be if this is true or was Doncaster basically issuing empty threats to try to get Spivco into Div 1 ? Edited July 10, 2012 by Florentine_Pogen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 You are a monotonous little c**t with a shitebag of a chairman. Deal with it. You are also gullible. You have a two faced, cowardly chairman who instead of standing up for what he wants caves into pressure from his fans. He then blackmails and threatens clubs in the SFL and then hides away behind his clubs mini orc support who now treat him as a hero. You are therefore a supporter of the new scum element of Scottish Football, calling for sporting intergrity while fucking the diddy teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A wee musical interlude with Waaaaaaalter ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eCAv8jUg9k Maybe I should give Tryfield a lift home from away games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Where is this clause ? In the TV contract ? In the SPL Handbook ? In the SPL Articles of Association ? In the SFA rules ? You appear to be the only person saying that this clause exists. It is in the proposal that your clubs league representative presented to the SFL. If it is not true then may I suggest you get your club chairmen to throttle this p***k and remove the threats from the discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 According to the Telegraph article (saying it's source was Eric Drysdale - of Raith) it's outlined in the Annual Settlement that if SPL has less than £6M to hand-out then the Settlement could be reduced. SPL obviously want it all ways. Give us the majority of the money and within than the majority to Old but dead Firm. We have an agreement but if we mismanage ourselves so badly we can't pay it, then we don't. Market forces usually dictate. When a company can't run itself properly, losing money or is selling crap then the market decides against them and they go down the swanny. Unless you are the SPL. The Ratners of Scottish football. Gerald Ratner wiped £500 million from the value of Ratners jewellers with one speech in 1991. He said: "We also do cut-glass sherry decanters complete with six glasses on a silver-plated tray that your butler can serve you drinks on, all for £4.95. People say, 'How can you sell this for such a low price?' I say, because it's total crap." He added that his stores' earrings were "cheaper than an M&S prawn sandwich but probably wouldn't last as long". I am sure Doncaster can give us an SPL version. Yes it is total crap and won't last long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 You have a two faced, cowardly chairman who instead of standing up for what he wants caves into pressure from his fans. He then blackmails and threatens clubs in the SFL and then hides away behind his clubs mini orc support who now treat him as a hero. You are therefore a supporter of the new scum element of Scottish Football, calling for sporting intergrity while fucking the diddy teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This is from the Clyde minutes of Doncaster's presentation last week :- The consequential impact on the SFL from the presentation was that the SFL would lose its entitlement to circa £2m per annum from the Settlement Agreement put together to compensate the SFL for the SPL breakaway, this was made very clear by Neil Doncaster. He told the clubs that if the SPL didn't have the money then they could not pay the SFL. The reality however, which was clear from the detailed figures, is that the SPL, whilst losing an enormous amount of funding, would have the cash to make payment; it is just that the SPL would not meet the legal obligation to the SFL as the cash would be used to finance the SPL teams. OK, so the next question has to be if this is true or was Doncaster basically issuing empty threats to try to get Spivco into Div 1 ? If they can't afford it or prefer to spend it elsewhere then sue the bas***ds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 You have a two faced, cowardly chairman who instead of standing up for what he wants caves into pressure from his fans. He then blackmails and threatens clubs in the SFL and then hides away behind his clubs mini orc support who now treat him as a hero. You are therefore a supporter of the new scum element of Scottish Football, calling for sporting intergrity while fucking the diddy teams. Dundee Hibernians have Orc support ? Well I never.............. "New scum element". Interesting deduction. Please elucidate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) The consequential impact on the SFL from the presentation was that the SFL would lose its entitlement to circa £2m per annum from the Settlement Agreement put together to compensate the SFL for the SPL breakaway, this was made very clear by Neil Doncaster. £2,000,000 / 30 clubs = £66,666 per club per season. That = a measly £1282 per club per week to be precise! Edited July 10, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowCeltic.org Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 <br />It is a good article in the Telegraph <a href='http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9387504/Rangers-in-crisis-SFL-clubs-unfazed-by-Neil-Doncasters-scare-tactics.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>here</a><br /><br />If the complete sponsorship of the SPL is less than £6 then a) Doncaster should be sacked for that alone and b) we are all fucked. I cannot believe that all the sponsorship money (including SKY at the moment, Clydesdale Bank, Coca-Cola, William Hill, BBC, ESPN etc) is totalling less than £6M.<br /> Doesn't that article actually state 'total income' rather than only commercial sponsorship deals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Isn't Andy Roxburgh still one of their high heidyins? David Taylor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Taylor_(executive) Ex Chief Exec at the SFA, so he will know where many of the bodies are buried. Not all will be in Campbells' bunker. But many will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) UEFA act swiftly and decisively. They're sure to be on top of this Sevco pish, eh? http://www.rte.ie/sp...itter-comments/ Edited July 10, 2012 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 £2,000,000 / 30 = £66,666 ! A measly less than £70,000 per club per season. That = £1282 per week to be precise! It's a lot to part-timers, if you've only 1 home game in ~3 week spell suddenly you're £4k short. Ultimately this particular matters comes down to [1] how poor will SPL end-up or [2] will they try to default. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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