Billkmc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 time for a new trend then #yestocove 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 And now for something completely different. Colonel green's serenade to D&P: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I know I might get shot down for suggesting such a far fetched scenario..... But do you think this whole Rangers debacle could lead to a funny episode of 'Only an Excuse' this Hogmanay????? No. There will be shit "Club 12" jokes though. Frank McAvennie will probably be involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I know I might get shot down for suggesting such a far fetched scenario..... But do you think this whole Rangers debacle could lead to a funny episode of 'Only an Excuse' this Hogmanay????? Very possibly and this time we will be able to the real Chick Faeces playing himself as it will be the only work he will be able to get. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well our chairman has made his stance very clear TAKEN FROM TONIGHTS EVENING TIMES From Jags to riches: Partick Thistle chief admits Rangers trade-off will bring crash by Chris Jack MONEY talks. So, it seems, do those in the corridors of power at Hampden. After years of inactivity and dogged stalemate, change appears imminent for Scottish football, with the demise of Rangers the catalyst for a radical overhaul of our game. David Beattie knows the plans on the table will not appease everyone. As chairman of Partick Thistle, the bottom line on the balance sheet is of paramount importance, yet he must judge the mood of his fellow Jags supporters as he ponders where the Scottish game is heading. The Firhill supremo has been a long-time advocate of league reconstruction and the introduction of play-offs, giving teams in the Irn-Bru First Division a greater chance of claiming a place among our elite teams. With newco Rangers set to be forced to play in Scotland's second tier next term, a revamp of our league system appears closer than ever. The cash benefits of having Ally McCoist's side as opposition will be considerable for teams such as Thistle, Hamilton, Morton and Dumbarton, but the arrival of the Gers would all but kill off any hopes of on-field success. Beattie admits the financial boom would be hard to resist for First Division chairmen, but the Jags supremo is adamant the league should not be turned into a Light Blue title procession in the coming months and has called for the best of the rest to be given a shot at promotion glory. "I think the plans just now are a good compromise all round," he told SportTimes. "The balance between sporting integrity and commercialisation is one that has to be satisfied. "This will not be to everyone's agreement. A lot of fans would like to see Rangers in the Third Division, but commercially that would be a nightmare for Scottish football. "The key for me are the play-offs. What you don't want is Rangers coming into the First Division, winning it outright, which they probably will do, and going straight into the SPL again. "If there are play-offs, then the rest of the teams have something to play for as well. I have said for a long time that there should be play-offs anyway. I know everybody won't be happy, but I think it is a good compromise." Beattie has sanctioned four new signings at Firhill so far this summer, with boss Jackie McNamara building a squad he hopes will challenge for First Division glory. The arrival of Rangers would throw a huge spanner in the works, how-ever, with the Jags no longer fighting the likes of Dundee and Falkirk for the league flag but likely to be left behind by McCoist's men. Any on-field drawbacks would be offset by the financial gains, with the arrival of the Ibrox giants likely to generate significant funds for a cash-strapped league. Clubs could benefit to the tune of around £250k if Rangers are parachuted into the First Division next term and Beattie hopes the cash boost will be significant at Firhill. He said: "If the financial benefit was around £250k a year, I would be delighted –and so would Jackie. "The problem is we don't have a lot of time and we don't know how much will be coming in until we have plans in place and the season starts. "We are getting a restructuring of Scottish football, the move to one organisation is long overdue. "Rangers are being punished, which is justified. There is a compromise between sporting integrity and commercialisation. Hopefully there is a TV deal. If that is something that comes out of this then great. I can see very few downsides to it just now. "Friday night football is a good idea as well. Whether the Rangers fans would be happy with that, I don't know. "Geography plays a big part in Friday night football. I don't think it should be all the time but in certain circumstances I am all for it." Seeing Rangers stride out at First Division grounds may bring cheer to club chairman, but the reaction from fans has been decidedly mixed. SPL followers have vowed to boycott matches if Charles Green's newco club are granted a return to the top flight, with the ultimate sanction – a place in the Third Division –the preferred option for many fans across the country. Beattie said: "I can fully understand why some of the fans will be upset, definitely. "I can understand why First Division chairmen will be delighted because they are getting some extra finance. That is the big compromise. "I don't think putting Rangers in the Third Division would help Scottish football. Putting them in the First Division is a compromise. It is maybe not palatable for everyone, but it is a compromise that I think works. Out of adversity comes opportunity." YOU STICK BY THAT MR BEATTIE AND YOU ARE GONNA LOSE A LOT OF LONG TERM JAGS SUPPORTERS!!! What a fucking pathetic, short-sighted view to take. So this clown is willing to put Scottish football back in the exact same state within a year for the sake of £250k? What a fucking whore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan-bufc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 No. There will be shit "Club 12" jokes though. Frank McAvennie will probably be involved. I expect them to do a scene where the fans are singing general football songs and substitute club 12 into them, like "stand up if you love club 12" etc. Then the studio audience to laugh their heads of and leaving me wondering if I am the only person that doesn't find it funny and also why the f**k I recorded a show that stopped being funny about 10 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well our chairman has made his stance very clear TAKEN FROM TONIGHTS EVENING TIMES ........ YOU STICK BY THAT MR BEATTIE AND YOU ARE GONNA LOSE A LOT OF LONG TERM JAGS SUPPORTERS!!! David Beattie - clearly man with his finger up the Club 12 arse on the pulse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paralysis Through Analysis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 First post here and although nothing more than a die-hard fitba fan, there's something I'm not understanding with the SPL application: Auld Rangers are no more so lost their place in the SPL. New Rangers are not yet even a member of the SFA (or have I missed that?) and are definately not a member of the SPL. How is it then that Rangers are supposedly getting a vote on whether they are to be admitted on July 4th? Bit like putting a white ball in the bag yirself on whether you're to get intae the masons. I'm just not getting it. Right now there are 11 clubs in the SPL. What have I missed here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 What a fucking pathetic, short-sighted view to take. So this clown is willing to put Scottish football back in the exact same state within a year for the sake of £250k? What a fucking whore. Couldnt agree more....and rest assured he is being told about our feelings!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well our chairman has made his stance very clear TAKEN FROM TONIGHTS EVENING TIMES From Jags to riches: Partick Thistle chief admits Rangers trade-off will bring crash by Chris Jack MONEY talks. So, it seems, do those in the corridors of power at Hampden. After years of inactivity and dogged stalemate, change appears imminent for Scottish football, with the demise of Rangers the catalyst for a radical overhaul of our game. David Beattie knows the plans on the table will not appease everyone. As chairman of Partick Thistle, the bottom line on the balance sheet is of paramount importance, yet he must judge the mood of his fellow Jags supporters as he ponders where the Scottish game is heading. The Firhill supremo has been a long-time advocate of league reconstruction and the introduction of play-offs, giving teams in the Irn-Bru First Division a greater chance of claiming a place among our elite teams. With newco Rangers set to be forced to play in Scotland's second tier next term, a revamp of our league system appears closer than ever. The cash benefits of having Ally McCoist's side as opposition will be considerable for teams such as Thistle, Hamilton, Morton and Dumbarton, but the arrival of the Gers would all but kill off any hopes of on-field success. Beattie admits the financial boom would be hard to resist for First Division chairmen, but the Jags supremo is adamant the league should not be turned into a Light Blue title procession in the coming months and has called for the best of the rest to be given a shot at promotion glory. "I think the plans just now are a good compromise all round," he told SportTimes. "The balance between sporting integrity and commercialisation is one that has to be satisfied. "This will not be to everyone's agreement. A lot of fans would like to see Rangers in the Third Division, but commercially that would be a nightmare for Scottish football. "The key for me are the play-offs. What you don't want is Rangers coming into the First Division, winning it outright, which they probably will do, and going straight into the SPL again. "If there are play-offs, then the rest of the teams have something to play for as well. I have said for a long time that there should be play-offs anyway. I know everybody won't be happy, but I think it is a good compromise." Beattie has sanctioned four new signings at Firhill so far this summer, with boss Jackie McNamara building a squad he hopes will challenge for First Division glory. The arrival of Rangers would throw a huge spanner in the works, how-ever, with the Jags no longer fighting the likes of Dundee and Falkirk for the league flag but likely to be left behind by McCoist's men. Any on-field drawbacks would be offset by the financial gains, with the arrival of the Ibrox giants likely to generate significant funds for a cash-strapped league. Clubs could benefit to the tune of around £250k if Rangers are parachuted into the First Division next term and Beattie hopes the cash boost will be significant at Firhill. He said: "If the financial benefit was around £250k a year, I would be delighted –and so would Jackie. "The problem is we don't have a lot of time and we don't know how much will be coming in until we have plans in place and the season starts. "We are getting a restructuring of Scottish football, the move to one organisation is long overdue. "Rangers are being punished, which is justified. There is a compromise between sporting integrity and commercialisation. Hopefully there is a TV deal. If that is something that comes out of this then great. I can see very few downsides to it just now. "Friday night football is a good idea as well. Whether the Rangers fans would be happy with that, I don't know. "Geography plays a big part in Friday night football. I don't think it should be all the time but in certain circumstances I am all for it." Seeing Rangers stride out at First Division grounds may bring cheer to club chairman, but the reaction from fans has been decidedly mixed. SPL followers have vowed to boycott matches if Charles Green's newco club are granted a return to the top flight, with the ultimate sanction – a place in the Third Division –the preferred option for many fans across the country. Beattie said: "I can fully understand why some of the fans will be upset, definitely. "I can understand why First Division chairmen will be delighted because they are getting some extra finance. That is the big compromise. "I don't think putting Rangers in the Third Division would help Scottish football. Putting them in the First Division is a compromise. It is maybe not palatable for everyone, but it is a compromise that I think works. Out of adversity comes opportunity." YOU STICK BY THAT MR BEATTIE AND YOU ARE GONNA LOSE A LOT OF LONG TERM JAGS SUPPORTERS!!! What a fucking idiot he is. It's Sevco first of all not Rangers. If 5088 FC get fudged into the SFL1 then I will never go back to a Scottish football game. Take your one off £250,000 Beattie but you will never get even a single penny from me again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I expect them to do a scene where the fans are singing general football songs and substitute club 12 into them, like "stand up if you love club 12" etc. Then the studio audience to laugh their heads of and leaving me wondering if I am the only person that doesn't find it funny and also why the f**k I recorded a show that stopped being funny about 10 years ago. I would happily tune in for 30 minutes of them doing Traynor and Young crying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 If this is true, then that is what should happen. 3 years in the wilderness followed by their application to join SFL3. Works for me. No. 3 years accounts. 4 years in wilderness. Ie dead. 1st accounts not due till Dec 2013 so Dec 2015 afore they have 3 years, can't apply mid season, so season 2016/17 it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 First post here and although nothing more than a die-hard fitba fan, there's something I'm not understanding with the SPL application: Auld Rangers are no more so lost their place in the SPL. New Rangers are not yet even a member of the SFA (or have I missed that?) and are definately not a member of the SPL. How is it then that Rangers are supposedly getting a vote on whether they are to be admitted on July 4th? Bit like putting a white ball in the bag yirself on whether you're to get intae the masons. I'm just not getting it. Right now there are 11 clubs in the SPL. What have I missed here? The old Rangers has not yet been liquidated and still exists. It will have a vote on the 4th July, just like every other SPL member. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) The rules say that a club needs 3 years of accounts to become a member of the SFA. While this rule is apparently not set in stone, it is clear that at least some rules would have to be waived to allow Rangers into the 3rd Division. 'Rangers' cannot go into the 3rd div because they are extinct. In order for any team to be considered for entry into the SFL they have to provide records of 3 years worth of accounts. If this is true, then that is what should happen. 3 years in the wilderness followed by their application to join SFL3. Works for me. I heard like Craigkillie, that the rule about 3 years of accounts wasn't binding. There is a whole range of criteria, and I thought they basically had to vote for best fit. And in all honesty, I can't see a club with a better case than a Rangers newco for admission to the third. Straight to the first though? They can f**k right off with that! Edited to add, I can't recall where I heard, on reflection, it might actually have been from Craigkillie! Edited June 22, 2012 by xbl -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Clive Anderson interviewing the Thistle board!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdvfmGPDVkk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbes20silkcut Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 i wonder if longmuir has or is brokering a deal that sees that Glasgow side in the first division, in return for an extra promotion place or a play off the SPL, only the SFL have come out of this SO FAR with any dignity, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 What a fucking pathetic, short-sighted view to take. So this clown is willing to put Scottish football back in the exact same state within a year for the sake of £250k? What a fucking whore. Completely agree with you, but this is just one man's opinion. The majority of SFL clubs would need to agree and the SPL would need to agree to a play-off in addition to the automatic promotion/relegation (BTW I'm not oppossed to this but not for it to help newco). Maybe he's been put up as the front man to test the water (excuse the mixed metaphors) but it will be important for fans of ALL SFL clubs in all three divisions to make their views clear to their clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I know I might get shot down for suggesting such a far fetched scenario..... But do you think this whole Rangers debacle could lead to a funny episode of 'Only an Excuse' this Hogmanay????? Frank MacAvennie is a hoormaister. Chick Young is a closet Rangers Fan, who says he supports St Mirren. Walter Smith likes the words "obviously" and "particularly". There, I've just used my magical psychic powers to predict 99% of the content of this years Hogmanay Only an Excuse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Completely agree with you, but this is just one man's opinion. The majority of SFL clubs would need to agree and the SPL would need to agree to a play-off in addition to the automatic promotion/relegation (BTW I'm not oppossed to this but not for it to help newco). Maybe he's been put up as the front man to test the water (excuse the mixed metaphors) but it will be important for fans of ALL SFL clubs in all three divisions to make their views clear to their clubs. Morton's CM thinks/ says the same. My link 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) David Beattie - clearly man with his finger up the Club 12 arse on the pulse. I'd like to state that I do not agree with Mr Beattie. Edited June 22, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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