Nutz_the_Squirrel Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Exactly. Rangers have broken FIFA statute 64 by taking their national association to an ordinary court of law. As a member of FIFA, the SFA must now punish Rangers accordingly. As previously stated, the punishments available are a £100,000 fine, which has already been applied, expulsion from the Scottish Cup for one year, which is a comedy punishment, or suspension of membership. What Rangers have done by taking the SFA to the Court of Session is force the SFA's hand. They pretty much have no choice now. Rangers have committed suicide. By forcing the SFA to make them sit out the Scottish Cup for a year? Hardly suicide. I'm clearly missing something here (I hope), perhaps you could enlighten me as to how they have hurt themselves here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Exactly. Rangers have broken FIFA statute 64 by taking their national association to an ordinary court of law. As a member of FIFA, the SFA must now punish Rangers accordingly. As previously stated, the punishments available are a £100,000 fine, which has already been applied, expulsion from the Scottish Cup for one year, which is a comedy punishment, or suspension of membership. What Rangers have done by taking the SFA to the Court of Session is force the SFA's hand. They pretty much have no choice now. Rangers have committed suicide. So were Partick Thistle thrown out the game when they took the footballing authorities to court? Edited May 30, 2012 by No8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuntoiRab Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Dr Gregory Ioannidis...His twitter account lists Man Utd and Celtic as his 2 great loves ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ desperate this morning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 And 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Particularly funny as that the BBC actually sold all it's magazines bar 3 (Top gear, lonely planet & easy cook) last year link. Somehow cannot see Easy Cook actually being a guide to the best chippies in Glasgow or Lonely Planet covering Butlins in Ayr so suspect it's not much a of hit if the fool does read Top Gear! It's not been Butlins for years ya Killie bam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Rangers and their fans can suck my fat one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXBBud Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I will bow to the superior knowledge of others, but is FIFA Statute 64 not bordering on being unenforceable? Hypothetically speaking, say a national body such as the SFA does something which although in compliance with their own orders, constitution, rule book or whatever, contravenes a member club's rights at law, what recourse does the member club have other than taking court action since it is expected that FIFA has approved the national body's rules etc. to allow it to have membership of the world governing body. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ desperate this morning? Desperate? Aye the thought of missing out on the Scottish Cup has me breaking out in a cold sweat :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamDFC Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Haven't seen this posted yet: good wee vid from last night. http://news.stv.tv/scotland/103883-rangers-could-face-heavier-sanctions-after-signing-ban-court-battle/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) So were Partick Thistle thrown out the game when they took the footballing authorities to court? A pathetic, fascile and empty bleat. The FIFA/UEFA provisions have been tightened since the time of the Thistle case. Rangers chose to flout the current provisions under Article 64 and as incorporated in the SFA rules. Rangers themselves signed-up to them last August when all senior Clubs agreed unamimously. Get the scumbags kicked-out. Edited May 30, 2012 by Claymores 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I will bow to the superior knowledge of others, but is FIFA Statute 64 not bordering on being unenforceable? Hypothetically speaking, say a national body such as the SFA does something which although in compliance with their own orders, constitution, rule book or whatever, contravenes a member club's rights at law, what recourse does the member club have other than taking court action since it is expected that FIFA has approved the national body's rules etc. to allow it to have membership of the world governing body. I think the point is, they are quite within their rights to do what they want in terms of taking shit to courts of law, but if they continue with it they will no longer be recognised by FIFA and I assume have to find a non-FIFA league to play in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrovianmonk Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Charlie Green at Hampden for SPL meeting. What SPL club does he run? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXBBud Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think the point is, they are quite within their rights to do what they want in terms of taking shit to courts of law, but if they continue with it they will no longer be recognised by FIFA and I assume have to find a non-FIFA league to play in. Thanks Wullie. That would make for a season of 36 (or however many games they wanted) home games against their reserves. alternatively, they could play home and away between Greyskull and Murray Park for a bit of variety. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint jason Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 One game does not a league make !!! Congratulations to them and their fine fans .. welcome addition to the SPL , least they might make a game of it !!! Ironically, one brain cell does a Celtic supporter make. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint jason Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Whilst sweating profusely and dithering today, one would hope the S.F.A. remember the significance of the above... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyWho? Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 By forcing the SFA to make them sit out the Scottish Cup for a year? Hardly suicide. I'm clearly missing something here (I hope), perhaps you could enlighten me as to how they have hurt themselves here. If you're missing it, there's no hope for you. The SFA must be seen to act by FIFA. Expulsion from the Scottish Cup is not going to cut it. Admittedly, it was a different case, but Sion were eventually docked 36 points by the Swiss FA for fielding ineligible players. This after the club had taken them to court, much to FIFA's disdain. 36-points for fielding ineligible players then taking the Swiss FA to court. One year ban from the Scottish Cup for failure to pay more than £13 million in tax last season then taking the SFA to court. The latter will not cut the mustard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Coming from a Dundee fan that is a joke !!! I think it's about time you let your mum put you down for a nap, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If you're missing it, there's no hope for you. The SFA must be seen to act by FIFA. Expulsion from the Scottish Cup is not going to cut it. Admittedly, it was a different case, but Sion were eventually docked 36 points by the Swiss FA for fielding ineligible players. This after the club had taken them to court, much to FIFA's disdain. 36-points for fielding ineligible players then taking the Swiss FA to court. One year ban from the Scottish Cup for failure to pay more than £13 million in tax last season then taking the SFA to court. The latter will not cut the mustard. NB - Accotrding to RTC it looks like they have been continuing to fail to make theTax/NI payments in Administration. RTC was not previously calling for expulsion but there is a sea-change in attitudes now - see their site for the blog and posts which analyse that the EBT proposal also misrepresents the latest situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Can anyone tell me if H&D can obtain credit for a club in administration ? For that is what they have done, to the tune of an interest bearing 8.5 million.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 NB - Accotrding to RTC it looks like they have been continuing to fail to make theTax/NI payments in Administration. RTC was not previously calling for expulsion but there is a sea-change in attitudes now - see their site for the blog and posts which analyse that the EBT proposal also misrepresents the latest situation. I had heard this this morning, surley to god their not that thick? It's total suicide. Excuse my ignorance but is this the kind of thing a company has to pay each month or can it be paid annually? Even if annually surley the deadline for that has passed. Excuse my ignorance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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