Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

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Even when that is explicitly forbidden by FIFA regulations? Basically Rangers had two options, CAS or the law courts. Both apparently not allowed by the SFA but one definitely allowed by UEFA and FIFA. So why did they pick the law courts?

It's in Scotland, nudge nudge wink wink.

[Well Well]

But the SFA would be on very sticky legal grounds if they tried to 'hammer' RFC for exercising its right to seek redress from the CoS.

As have the rest of society trying to get redress from Rangers FC over their sticky legal behaviour whilst trying to 'hammer' the rules and regulations for the last 20 years.

[THE KING]

That goes without saying, empty stadiums at every ground they visit, it must be something that we all do and stick to it, every other club and attend in bigger numbers for other games instead, its a small sacrifice to miss 3/4 games a season.

We must Unite against them and very much make them outcasts of the SPL (more so than they already are), word must be spread to fans who aren't familiar with these boards to boycott everything Rangers, ignore them, they will get fed up bigtime going to games all the time with no opposing fans and find when they do travel they haven't any opposing fans to sing their shyte to as we'll not be there (sounds unrealistic but the feeling is strong surely word could get round?)

I wont even be watching any goals/highlights or anything of games involving them, including against Utd, they will basically be invisible to me and would urge everyone to follow suit, keep our own league table on here without them included.

I for one will be boycotting everything to do with rangers, any games ,any sponsors, getting fat,wife beating etc

[Tam1314]

Stuff all this football shite,

Judith Ralston

[Drooper]

We all seem to have lost sight of the fact that the SPL clubs meet tomorrow to agree a postponement of their decisions in respect of the financial fair play proposals.

[Paquis]

I for one will be boycotting everything to do with rangers, any games ,any sponsors, getting fat,wife beating etc

I am sure your wife will be appreciative.

[HibeeJibee]

I don't disagree with that assessment. If Carloway is reviewing his decision he may be swayed by the court but he might not. Judges are stubborn. If the review panel come back with the same decision what do the SFA do. The panel is independent and they are bound by the decision, they are also bound by the court decision. The simplest and fairest answer would be for all parties to agree to bring the case in front of CAS and let them figure it out.

Tbh, you wonder if the very last thing SFA want is for it to go to CAS. Their cases can take months or years.

Assuming that the existing punishment was set aside (that's often what CAS do - and we now have a situation where a civil court has said the embargo wasn't allowed), Rangers could have a punishment-less window going forward.

[WeeHectorPar]

A little bit of light-hearted banter on a day which will lay heavily on the hearts of our soon-to-be-departed objects of scorn

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Am I correct in thinking that there is still some punishment due from the SPL in regards to duel contracts?

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Gregory Ioannidis ‏@LawTop20 FIFA: 'We are monitoring the situation so the matter could be resolved quickly'. Interpretation: 'If you don't do it, we will'....

They won't do it. Over to you chaps.

[ayrmad]

We all seem to have lost sight of the fact that the SPL clubs meet tomorrow to agree a postponement of their decisions in respect of the financial fair play proposals.

Aye, it's about time undersoil heating was a prerequisite of their meeting rooms, they must be in worse nick than Fir Park.

[ayrmad]

Am I correct in thinking that there is still some punishment due from the SPL in regards to duel contracts?

Only if Rangers choose to incriminate themselves.

[GirondistNYC]

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But the SFA would be on very sticky legal grounds if they tried to 'hammer' RFC for exercising its right to seek redress from the CoS.

No they wouldn't. The COS didn't meet the merits of Rangers claims at all - that Rangers brought the game into disrepute is now established and COS didn't change that. Nor did the COS rule that the transfer embargo was somehow disproportionate. The COS pears to have simply ruled that under its own badly drafted rules the SFA is stuck with explicitly laid out punishments and can't impose a compromise tailored to circumstances using a discretionary clause.

The SFA could expel or suspend Rangers and they would have no recourse under today's ruling. it would be an explicitly provided for penalty that they said they considered and only rejected due to being able to impose a lesser discretionary penalty.

From the SFAs standpoint the fact they said they thought about explosion seriously but considered it too harsh might allow an argument that it's still too harsh. However, it's also perfectly arguable that it was only too harsh given the intermediate discretionary sanction and thus given the option now of either a lap on the wrist or the death penalty they now must choose the harsher sanction because the COS has effectively barred reasonable leniency as an option given that they concluded the conduct was just short of match fixing.

Then there is the fact by going to the COS at all Rangers committed a new breach of the rules. The fact that apparently the SFA wanted the Rangers to try and go to the CAS not withstanding the lack of explicit sanction makes Rangers position weaker here than it otherwise might be, as does the fact that D&P appear to have indicated that they didn't even check on the poet natural negative impact of going to the COS on Scottish football before doing so.

Regardless, the SFA could hammer Rangers under the COS ruling without any reference to Rangers having gone to COS. Mind you, thy don't have to.

[BobbyLawFanClub]

From the BBC website -

'Whyte's company, The Rangers FC Group Ltd is listed as holding a fixed charge over the club's current assets, but the amount due is unconfirmed.'

Does Whyte make any money from the CVA?

[Paquis]

Am I correct in thinking that there is still some punishment due from the SPL in regards to duel contracts?

That allegation is still to be proved.

Edited May 29, 2012 by Paquis

[WeeHectorPar]

A lot of the time you post rationally and with considered thought but your claim above is just rubbish!!

How many players do Rangers have under contract for next year?? Rangers can also re-sign players currently on their books and Greene's claims are that they will reduce the wage bill to £11m. Most clubs in the SPL don't even turn over that amount of money.

You may have to field teams that will struggle due to lack of ability and experience but that's tough luck I'm afraid!!

All they need to do is get together enough money to keep the present squad together. If they are not capable of doing that then it is hardly the fault of the SFA. But then of course they need at least another £20M in players to win the CL next season.

[lithgierose]

when are the SPL fixture lists, for next season released ?

will there be two drafts?

[Broccoli Dog]

Am I correct in thinking that there is still some punishment due from the SPL in regards to duel contracts?

Yes expect them to face trial by combat.

[Chazza1910]

Impressed with the depth of knowledge on here.

But got to disagree with the SFA being influenced by the CVA position. It may be a ploy by Rangers, but the SFA has to act as it sees fit, and if Rangers are booted out of the SFA, so be it. FIFA are now on the case, urging the SFA to bring Rangers into line.

I suspect they will be suspended from the Cup for a year.

[HibeeJibee]

when are the SPL fixture lists, for next season released ?

will there be two drafts?

They're out 3 weeks yesterday. At best I'd imagine they'll have tried to make Rangers schedule such that it could be taken-over Dundee will as little adaption as feasible. Aside of that nothing's very big.