Ned Nederlander Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Sorry if this has been brought up before, but will the players and directors who got paid in EBTs now be liable for their unpaid taxes, or is it it just Oldco? The Employer would normally be chased for any missed payments since it's their responsibility to pay it in the first place. Chap on BBC 5Live yesterday stated it would be to costly to chase the employees for very little return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 TUPE #thanksforthememoriesnowfuckoff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) The Employer would normally be chased for any missed payments since it's their responsibility to pay it in the first place. Chap on BBC 5Live yesterday stated it would be to costly to chase the employees for very little return. Are top earning footballers usually on PAYE though? I'd have thought they'd have turned themselves into tax dodging companies like other rich cnuts. Edited November 5, 2015 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Are top earning footballers usually on PAYE though? Yep. I was involved in a project with the guy that put the payroll system into Ibrox about 10 years ago and all the players were PAYE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yep. I was involved in a project with the guy that put the payroll system into Ibrox about 10 years ago and all the players were PAYE. Did you install it properly? You might end up with the blame here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Did you install it properly? You might end up with the blame here I wan't involved in that project, just one that was going on at the same time. Phew. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) I doubt many people have less respect for the wit of Rangers fans and even I expected better than this. The pretend smug thing is fooling literally nobody. Edited November 5, 2015 by Alan Stubbs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Tedi has absolutely lost it Lashing out all over the place 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The Employer would normally be chased for any missed payments since it's their responsibility to pay it in the first place. Chap on BBC 5Live yesterday stated it would be to costly to chase the employees for very little return. if it's income tax that's the responsibility of the individual to make sure it's paid,not costly at all to chase individuals,In fact easy targets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 if it's income tax that's the responsibility of the individual to make sure it's paid,not costly at all to chase individuals,In fact easy targets It's not me saying that it's the tax expert bloke that 5 live wheeled out - he said it would be costly, complicated and the returns would be relatively low. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 if it's income tax that's the responsibility of the individual to make sure it's paid,not costly at all to chase individuals,In fact easy targets Might be missing something - don't employers collect tax and national insurance from staff on behalf of HMRC to pass on to the Revenue, in largely the same way they collect VAT from sales (which get offset from VAT on purchases)? If you're self employed, sure, it's a system of self-assessment, but in a private/public limited company it's the companies responsibility? NI also has employee contributions along with employer contributions too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Tedi's embarrassing idiocy on this thread is proof of why this verdict matters a great deal, even if it makes little material difference. The original verdict mattered so much to chaps like dear old Ted. It meant that Rangers fans could pretend the whole liquidation was the doing of the rogue that was Whyte. It meant they could claim the debt was down to a manageable £18m and pretend that admin and what followed was not inevitable. It meant they could front up witlessly when people suggested that Rangers were tax dodgers. It meant they could boast of titles, without having to acknowledge that we all smirked. This verdict has removed all that. What Rangers was about has been fully exposed. Quite simply, the club is and was a disgrace. If Ted and co wish to react in such a silly way, we should probably let them. They literally have nothing else to cling to. Edited November 5, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Tedi has absolutely lost it Lashing out all over the place Are these invisible lashing out posts that only clever lads from Motherwell can see? Speaking of apologies...I can't remember what I said now but chances are i was wrong anyway so sorry mate. Edited November 5, 2015 by bennett -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Oh dear Apparently some ebt's cost them tonight's match too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 if it's income tax that's the responsibility of the individual to make sure it's paid,not costly at all to chase individuals,In fact easy targets Nonsense. As has been posted several times already, if you are an employee it is the responsibility of your employer to deduct the correct tax and NI and ensure it is paid to HMRC. If they do not do so the Revenue will pursue the employer. And rightly so. They won't pursue the employee as they've done nothing wrong. If your present employer goes bust and hasn't paid your PAYE to HMRC for six months would you be happy for HMRC to come after you for it? The only potential for chasing individuals would be if it could be proven they were complicit in agreeing a scheme they knew to be illegal to evade tax. It would be near impossible to prove and it's doubtful how much benefit there would be even if it could be proven. Almost certainly less than the costs of pursuing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanderlei Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 #EBTMemories -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 An ebt made Paul mcstay miss yon penalty... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Reveling in their old club's cheating. Mmmmm, classy...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Are these invisible lashing out posts that only clever lads from Motherwell can see? Aye. Unfortunately they don't show up for thick c***s from Ayrshire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Were they Easily Beat Tonight? Very easily. Although I suppose we might have won, if we'd been cheating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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