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Remember how they tell is it's not a nazi salute

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Mail have stuck the article online now

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477639/SHAMEFUL-Fury-UK-soldiers-investigated-performing-Nazi-style-salute-Helmand.html

The photograph also shows the flag of Northern Ireland, while the Union Flag is inscribed with ‘Invicta Loyal’ – the name of a Glasgow Rangers supporters’ club, based in Kent.

But Mr Mann, the MP for Bassetlaw, added: ‘Whether they call it a “Red Hand salute” or whatever makes absolutely no difference – this is one of the most offensive gestures they could make in the modern world.

Many of the pages on the Invicta Loyal website display open sectarian hatred, while it also includes loyalist songs such as The Billy Boys – now banned at Rangers’ ground, Ibrox – which includes the lines: ‘We’re up to our knees in ****** Blood /Surrender or you’ll die. ‘

The website also has photographs from a ‘social’ event held by Invicta Loyal members where a gents’ toilet displayed a notice inviting supporters to ‘P*** on a Papist’ as pictures of the Pope, Gerry Adams and IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands were stuck to the urinal.

Historian Ian S Wood, who has studied Ulster Loyalism for decades, said: ‘I’ve never seen or heard of anything called a red hand salute.’

Belfast-born Iraq War commander Colonel Tim Collins, who led the 1st Battalion, the Royal Irish Regiment, said: ‘These soldiers are behaving inappropriately in uniform but I wouldn’t get too worried about soldiers behaving playfully.

‘If this is offensive then so is the First XV Rugby team not wearing regimental ties. This is beyond minor, it is a grain of sand and I do not think for a second that these soldiers should be removed from the British Army. You’d end someone’s career for having a laugh? How do people manage to be offended by so little?

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RangersMedia have picked up the story

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=260572#entry1061482433

Everyone knows it's a Red Hand of Ulster salute.
The MOD now have a discriminate policy of accepting Applications from prospective employees from particularly within the Catholic
community .
That could be your problem.
I would say if you want to punish them that badly bring them home.
Soon be no count left in Helmond the way these offended warehouse are going.
This makes the news.
Jesus!
People who say they are sickened are a disgrace.
Trying to make this something it's not.
Saying its a nazi salute it childish and sad
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Apparently the editor had made the correction, which is strange because its usually the other way round :unsure:

https://twitter.com/herron_media/status/394006625666990080

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Normally I wouldn't bother, but....................

Surely the simple fact Dave "messiah" King wants to be involved with "whatever-the-hell-the-died-club-is-called-now-sevco-the-rangers-inernatio...........zzzzzzzzz" makes him far from "fit and proper"?

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Normally I wouldn't bother, but....................

Surely the simple fact Dave "messiah" King wants to be involved with "whatever-the-hell-the-died-club-is-called-now-sevco-the-rangers-inernatio...........zzzzzzzzz" makes him far from "fit and proper"?

“There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle."

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I see King has hit the ground running with his bullshit in full flow.

"I've spoken to the relevant people about passing a fit n proper test and ive been assured theres no problem"

Really! So the SFA are cool then davy?

Eh...no didnt mean them....?!

Ibrox is like the tardis ..waiting for the next Dr Who (is full of shit)to appear.

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Apparently the editor had made the correction, which is strange because its usually the other way round :unsure:

 

https://twitter.com/herron_media/status/394006625666990080

I hope whoever wrote that will be OK.

Fingers crossed that their bosses have ensured they have adequate police protection at their home and installed a panic button. Better still, found them a safehouse.

The orcs will be crawling out their caves soon. Word will spread that there is another one on "the list".

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That photo's a few years old, as the army has stopped using that type of camo.

Still pretty stupid of them to pose like that, seriously what goes on in some peoples minds?

Hell mend them...

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That photo's a few years old, as the army has stopped using that type of camo.

Still pretty stupid of them to pose like that, seriously what goes on in some peoples minds?

Hell mend them...

Don't you mean "Helmand them"?

Really they have the IQ of a pigeon.

Imagine doing that then thinking it is acceptable and would not be seen by the public.

It's not the rangers supporter's flag. It's the NI flag and the Nazi salute that will get people upset/angry.

Silly people.

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The Union Flag is inscribed with the words "Invicta Loyal", the name of a Kent-based Glasgow Rangers supporters club, and below it hangs the flag of Northern Ireland.

There is a suggestion the soldiers may be making a "Red Hand of Ulster" salute, once used by Rangers fans as a sign of allegiance with Northern Ireland Loyalists, the MoS said.

But Democratic Unionist MP Sammy Wilson said: "This is not a salute made by marching bands (in Northern Ireland). It is not clear what the context is but I do not think it can be explained away as some type of Red Hand of Ulster salute."

Jeffrey Donaldson MP of the Democratic Unionist Party added: "Anyone who would imitate a Nazi salute in front of the Union Flag or wearing the uniform dishonours these flags and the British Army.

"Any symbolism associated with fascism has no place in the Unionist tradition or any regiment of the British Army.

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Poor Tedi .. he just cannot keep away.

If the MOD have confirmed it .. good enough for me.

Whether the photo is a few years old or not it matters not a jot.

The fact that they posted it in a public domain is.

Only Ringers fans could really be that dumb .. Out of uniform ... do what you like.

In uniform .. pay the price.

Tedi hasn't mentioned this yet and i fail to see why you would bring him into this.

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The Union Flag is inscribed with the words "Invicta Loyal", the name of a Kent-based Glasgow Rangers supporters club, and below it hangs the flag of Northern Ireland.

There is a suggestion the soldiers may be making a "Red Hand of Ulster" salute, once used by Rangers fans as a sign of allegiance with Northern Ireland Loyalists, the MoS said.

But Democratic Unionist MP Sammy Wilson said: "This is not a salute made by marching bands (in Northern Ireland). It is not clear what the context is but I do not think it can be explained away as some type of Red Hand of Ulster salute."

Jeffrey Donaldson MP of the Democratic Unionist Party added: "Anyone who would imitate a Nazi salute in front of the Union Flag or wearing the uniform dishonours these flags and the British Army.

"Any symbolism associated with fascism has no place in the Unionist tradition or any regiment of the British Army.

It was a right wing salute ...call it a nazi salute or whatever that was used in the '80s when singing Rule Britannia and 'The Queen' at games. With the arrival of PC it was more or less done away with and everybody left a little embarrassed by it all. There is actually a picture of a Rangers fan standing with an Israeli flag giving a nazi salute.

Then there came the Red Hand of Ulster salute excuse. Good luck to anybody doing that at a Loyalist parade in Northern Ireland! A community that takes great pride in the sacrifices they made in destroying National Socialism.

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It was a right wing salute ...call it a nazi salute or whatever that was used in the '80s when singing Rule Britannia and 'The Queen' at games. With the arrival of PC it was more or less done away with and everybody left a little embarrassed by it all. There is actually a picture of a Rangers fan standing with an Israeli flag giving a nazi salute.

Then there came the Red Hand of Ulster salute excuse. Good luck to anybody doing that at a Loyalist parade in Northern Ireland! A community that takes great pride in the sacrifices they made in destroying National Socialism.

Regarding the dozens of rangers fans that gave nazi salutes in Israel during a European game a few years back , it was Rangers themselves who claimed to UEFA that it was a red hand salute.

Rangers offered a swift response to UEFA's call for clarification, and a spokesman for the European body told PA Sport: "The disciplinary unit will not be taking any further action.

"It is also the sign of the Red Hand of Ulster and this convinced the disciplinary unit to end their investigation."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-437640/UEFA-drop-probe-Rangers-salutes.html#ixzz2ivYa8g47

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