mozam76 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 ...the reality is that you have little or no say when it actually comes down to it. Tell me, what league are The Rangers FC in again? No need for ridiculous long counter arguments or moronic blustering - just a simple answer will do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1FC1894 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) ...I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... That's about the only thing you've said that makes sense and it's something that all fans should be up in arms about. Between 2006-2009 the SFA received somewhere in the region of £12m from the Scottish Government for the development of the youth game and to distribute to football teams who had 'pro youth' set-ups. The amounts paid since 2009 are harder to get a hold of since the Scottish Government called the SFA to parliament in Edinburgh in 2011 to explain the youth football set-up and what has happened to the money. If any club uses the current financial uncertainties to scrap their youth set-ups, they are severely taking the pish. Edited August 1, 2012 by 1FC1894 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 <br>Thank you one and all for your level headed and balanced approach to your responses. You haven`t disappointed me with your levels of crass stupidity and ignorance. I see that you have all managed to grasp the stupid end of the stick again and took the easy option of spouting a lot of irrelevant shite. In answer to the only notable exception who asked what my solution to the "problem" would have been. I honestly don`t know what the right/best answer would have been.<br><br> As for the rest of you, I not that not one of you had any meaningful comment or view on the youth set ups at SPL clubs being the first area that clubs are looking at to trim overheads. Any of you care to comment on this??<br><br>And yes, as an ex-player I don`t get it and if you lot have got it then I`m glad I don`t get it!! Players in the main have a healthy level of contempt for the mainstream supporter and wether you like it or not thats the way it is. As for your mob rule,WATP, call yourselves what you will...the reality is that you have little or no say when it actually comes down to it. So you may all be Turnbull Hutton or whoever you choose to be today,the facts are that the clock is ticking on his and all the other Turnbull Huttons 15 minutes of fame...............<br><br>If clubs truly want to live within their means then let them do of their own volition and not because they are depending on a handout from a television deal to determine the level of their expenditure for the next 6/12 months. You wouldnt run any other type of business this way why should a football club be any different.........<br> 10,000 words over 2 posts and not one coherent point made. Pipe down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 10,000 words over 2 posts and not one coherent point made. Pipe down. Must be Traynor or Burley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) SFL3 An old pro-Rangers thread on skyscrapercity.com from 2008: Smoke & Mirrors If you feel like a laugh and haven't read it before i highly recommend it !!! Two of the many funny (deluded) comments that were posted by orcs on the thread that i have linked above: Sir David Murray wants to leave an ever lasting reminder of his time as Rangers Chairman off the pitch as well as on it, and this is how he plans to do it.He wants to create the best stadium in the world, along with a 'Rangers Village', which will contain hundreds of new homes and entertainment complexes all owned by the club to generate a yearly income. I am not sure how this is going to be funded but Sir David's steel companies are making huge profits every year and is expected to be a billionaire within the next three years according to the annual rich list. If this new 70,000 seater stadium is built then it raises two quite debatable issues: 1.How can Hampden Park survive as a national stadium with a more modern stadium a couple of miles away with 20,000 more seats and a far easier to get to. 2.Will Parkhead still be used as the venue for the Commenwealth games when there could be a bigger genuine world class stadium in Glasgow which is second to none. This was a media ploy by the club 'leaking' it to the press to create anticipation as they do have grand plans up those sleeves. The future's bright, the future's orange. "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "OH LET'S ALL LAUGH AT RANGERS" "HA-HA-HA-HA" - "HA-HA-HA-HA" Edited August 1, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney sumner Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 What level of idiocy is this? If you want a list of the songs I heard being sung then simply ask me and I'll happily tell you what I heard. How can you possibly say, in one post, "Can you tell me? No I didn't think so." I heard the following songs: Follow Follow - your version of this is offensive. The Sash - your version is offensive Rule Britannia - but you always try and trash england when you play there. your psyches a mess! GSTQ - ironic bearing in mind she fuckin hates your mob The Bluebells are Blue - inoffensive, unless you stick in a pope related lyric somewhere Ally McCoist's Blue Army - he's welcome to them Super Ally - factually incorrect as he is a fat w**k 4 Men had a Dream - sounds like a lot of dewy eyed push A Father's Advice - should have been pay your taxes and stop being a bigoted twat. The Bouncy - stolen from st mirren Can you tell me which of those are in the slightest bit offensive? No, I didn't think so. Tosser. looks like the list of songs you've mentioned emphasise what a bunch of cockends your supporters really are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Anyone any idea how many season tickets the orcs have sold so far? The hotline of late has been unmissable with some right nuggets phoning in, they seem to have taken to trolling on there now. At least i hope they are trolling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 That's about the only thing you've said that makes sense and it's something that all fans should be up in arms about. Between 2006-2009 the SFA received somewhere in the region of £12m from the Scottish Government for the development of the youth game and to distribute to football teams who had 'pro youth' set-ups. The amounts paid since 2009 are harder to get a hold of since the Scottish Government called the SFA to parliament in Edinburgh in 2011 to explain the youth football set-up and what has happened to the money. If any club uses the current financial uncertainties to scrap their youth set-ups, they are severely taking the pish. Is it not the case that a lot of youth set-ups are funded by grants etc which are ring-fenced? I think the suggestion that investment in youth will vanish is along similar lines to the ones about social unrest and deaths which take their time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Anyone any idea how many season tickets the orcs have sold so far? The hotline of late has been unmissable with some right nuggets phoning in, they seem to have taken to trolling on there now. At least i hope they are trolling. 900 odd. They're waiting on Bomber Brown giving the nod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Players in the main have a healthy level of contempt for the mainstream supporter and wether you like it or not thats the way it is. What? The footballers d-d-d-don't like me you say? Oh no! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLESGABOY Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 That's about the only thing you've said that makes sense and it's something that all fans should be up in arms about. Between 2006-2009 the SFA received somewhere in the region of £12m from the Scottish Government for the development of the youth game and to distribute to football teams who had 'pro youth' set-ups. The amounts paid since 2009 are harder to get a hold of since the Scottish Government called the SFA to parliament in Edinburgh in 2011 to explain the youth football set-up and what has happened to the money. If any club uses the current financial uncertainties to scrap their youth set-ups, they are severely taking the pish. THANK YOU.................... Someone who can seperate themselves from the utter shite thats currently doing the rounds on here and look at the potential for disaster for the game as a whole if the clubs follow through with cost cutting that starts with their youth set ups. Unfortunately clubs will use the current financial position as a reason for scrapping youth teams and youth development because in the main it`s an unseen overhead and it`s relatively easy to get rid off without anyone making too much of a fuss about it. If anyone on this or any other forum really do want to be seen as making a difference then you should all be lobbying/emailing your own clubs asking for detaisl and reassurances that the development of young players at your respective clubs will not be sacrificed................. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FC1894 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Is it not the case that a lot of youth set-ups are funded by grants etc which are ring-fenced?I think the suggestion that investment in youth will vanish is along similar lines to the ones about social unrest and deaths which take their time. I'm not saying that the investment will completely vanish, but it's not the first time youth set-ups have been scrapped when finances get a bit tight. The real problem is that a lot of government money has been spent on the pro-youth set up in this country and continues to be spent - if any team does consider scrapping their youth set up then there's something seriously wrong. Edited August 1, 2012 by 1FC1894 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leepylee Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 That's about the only thing you've said that makes sense and it's something that all fans should be up in arms about. Between 2006-2009 the SFA received somewhere in the region of £12m from the Scottish Government for the development of the youth game and to distribute to football teams who had 'pro youth' set-ups. The amounts paid since 2009 are harder to get a hold of since the Scottish Government called the SFA to parliament in Edinburgh in 2011 to explain the youth football set-up and what has happened to the money. If any club uses the current financial uncertainties to scrap their youth set-ups, they are severely taking the pish. I have often thought that even if every club in Scotland except the o.f. Just paid 300 / 500 a week for the best local players folk would still turn out to see them. It's really only when clubs tried to catch up with rangers illegal spending that the whole system clogged up, I'd be happy for Killie to adopt this approach even if it meant relegation and a bit of yoyoing through the leagues till all clubs found their level. I'd still go n watch, there would still be a Killie playing at rugby park. Would you go and see your club if they adopted a policy of promoting players from the youth set up and an occasional new player who moves into town for wages only ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 THANK YOU.................... Someone who can seperate themselves from the utter shite thats currently doing the rounds on here and look at the potential for disaster for the game as a whole if the clubs follow through with cost cutting that starts with their youth set ups. Unfortunately clubs will use the current financial position as a reason for scrapping youth teams and youth development because in the main it`s an unseen overhead and it`s relatively easy to get rid off without anyone making too much of a fuss about it. If anyone on this or any other forum really do want to be seen as making a difference then you should all be lobbying/emailing your own clubs asking for detaisl and reassurances that the development of young players at your respective clubs will not be sacrificed................. Yeah you really should stop posting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FC1894 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) ...Would you go and see your club if they adopted a policy of promoting players from the youth set up and an occasional new player who moves into town for wages only ? I would, but then I've been watching the Albion too long to be anything but a realist. And unfortunately, one of the main problems with teams like Celtic, Rangers, Hearts and Hibs etc. is as much to with the supporters as it is to do with how the clubs bring their youths on. Their supporters (like everyone who follows a football team) want success, and while they're willing to have maybe one or two young guys in the team who make the occasional mistake as they learn the ropes, they just won't tolerate their team getting humped every week. Bah, for me, not getting humped every week is a success. Edited August 1, 2012 by 1FC1894 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I have often thought that even if every club in Scotland except the o.f. Just paid 300 / 500 a week for the best local players folk would still turn out to see them. It's really only when clubs tried to catch up with rangers illegal spending that the whole system clogged up, I'd be happy for Killie to adopt this approach even if it meant relegation and a bit of yoyoing through the leagues till all clubs found their level. I'd still go n watch, there would still be a Killie playing at rugby park. Would you go and see your club if they adopted a policy of promoting players from the youth set up and an occasional new player who moves into town for wages only ? If the SFA Board were worth their wages, one of the rules of Scottish football would be - A minimum of 6 players of the starting 11 players on the pitch in each and every senior league match must have attended school within a 30 mile radius of the home ground of the club - for all Scottish League matches with no exceptions (including the SPL). Such a rule would force all Scottish Senior clubs to focus upon developing youths from areas around their clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 <br>Thank you one and all for your level headed and balanced approach to your responses. You haven`t disappointed me with your levels of crass stupidity and ignorance. I see that you have all managed to grasp the stupid end of the stick again and took the easy option of spouting a lot of irrelevant shite. In answer to the only notable exception who asked what my solution to the "problem" would have been. I honestly don`t know what the right/best answer would have been.<br><br> As for the rest of you, I not that not one of you had any meaningful comment or view on the youth set ups at SPL clubs being the first area that clubs are looking at to trim overheads. Any of you care to comment on this??<br><br>And yes, as an ex-player I don`t get it and if you lot have got it then I`m glad I don`t get it!! Players in the main have a healthy level of contempt for the mainstream supporter and wether you like it or not thats the way it is. As for your mob rule,WATP, call yourselves what you will...the reality is that you have little or no say when it actually comes down to it. So you may all be Turnbull Hutton or whoever you choose to be today,the facts are that the clock is ticking on his and all the other Turnbull Huttons 15 minutes of fame...............<br><br>If clubs truly want to live within their means then let them do of their own volition and not because they are depending on a handout from a television deal to determine the level of their expenditure for the next 6/12 months. You wouldnt run any other type of business this way why should a football club be any different.........<br> The biggest out going for clubs are players wages for years numerous accountancy firms have been sounding warnings about this problem and now it needs to be reduced. What about a wage cap ? My own club we were paying stupid money but that was not the fans that was the chairman, when he readjusted the wage structure not one supporter decried that decision. You say you don't know how to fix the problem, clubs simply spend a level of their income on wages that is affordable the problem we had was one nugget went splashing money on players and the others followed suit believing if they didn't they would pack up and leave. Now we all know and laugh at anyone who mentions their club moving to England or wherever, it ain't happening. Look there is one club who has just pissed over a lot of their creditors , are unsure of their revenue streams but are offering 5,000 per week to play in the seaside leagues , now who is being irresponsible? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) An old pro-Rangers thread on skyscrapercity.com from 2008: Smoke & Mirrors If you feel like a laugh and haven't read it before i highly recommend it !!! The Orcs seem to really love the facade of the big hoose. I am not saying this just to be anti-Ibrox, honest, but it reminds me of old Glasgow tram depots, or a 19th century factory. Drab , regimented, unimaginative. I really don't find it architecturally inspiring. Anyone else got an opinion? Edited August 1, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) <br>Thank you one and all for your level headed and balanced approach to your responses. You haven`t disappointed me with your levels of crass stupidity and ignorance. I see that you have all managed to grasp the stupid end of the stick again and took the easy option of spouting a lot of irrelevant shite. In answer to the only notable exception who asked what my solution to the "problem" would have been. I honestly don`t know what the right/best answer would have been.<br><br> As for the rest of you, I not that not one of you had any meaningful comment or view on the youth set ups at SPL clubs being the first area that clubs are looking at to trim overheads. Any of you care to comment on this??<br><br>And yes, as an ex-player I don`t get it and if you lot have got it then I`m glad I don`t get it!! Players in the main have a healthy level of contempt for the mainstream supporter and wether you like it or not thats the way it is. As for your mob rule,WATP, call yourselves what you will...the reality is that you have little or no say when it actually comes down to it. So you may all be Turnbull Hutton or whoever you choose to be today,the facts are that the clock is ticking on his and all the other Turnbull Huttons 15 minutes of fame...............<br><br>If clubs truly want to live within their means then let them do of their own volition and not because they are depending on a handout from a television deal to determine the level of their expenditure for the next 6/12 months. You wouldnt run any other type of business this way why should a football club be any different.........<br> Answer yer phone ffs, Billy (credit to vikingTON) Edited August 1, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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