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The follow followers have found a list of Players and directors that were paying in to film distribution tax break scheme and are freaming themselves at the thought of Celtic Paying into this on behalf of the players not unlike the ebt scheme, can you imagine the shitstorm that would create!?

Alleged to have occurred while David Murray was still at Rangers!? David Murray who had the Scottish Media in his pocket. Surely the Mainstream Media in Scotland would have been right on top of that if it were true and there was wrongdoing on the part of Celtic's payments to players. Especially if Neil Lennon and Martin O'Neil were two of the names involved. wink.gif A non story for me - probably photo-shopped by a raging follow follower! Time will tell.

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I'm not so sure about the first part; a one or two season contract with plenty of TV exposure that you wouldn't otherwise get could be quite attractive.

Assuming the transfer embargo stands, the club should, at best, be trying to sign players who can secure D2 promotion. Bringing in anyone better than that is just pissing money away (that probably isn't there in the first place...)

You could be right on your first bit but it's down to how much cash Charlie boy has at his disposal and how much sponsorship money he can secure to lure decent players on at least a 3 year contract.This to get to the point of SPL promotion whilst having the option to release them to be replaced with SPL quality to survive in the SPL.

Second bit ! Hmmm ? If your going to build a team from scratch your best bet is to have a team to gel over a few years for team spirit and moral IMO instead of disrupting the team every year replacing the entire team for each division.

Green is under real pressure from your fans to sign up what they would deem as quality players as is the Rangers tradition,anything less and they will boycott Ibrox in all probability !.So how much has Green got to invest upfront now ? or is he working on projected capital on attendances at Ibrox only ? these two need to be answered so you know what to expect on the park this coming season me thinks.

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Second bit ! Hmmm ? If your going to build a team from scratch your best bet is to have a team to gel over a few years for team spirit and moral IMO instead of disrupting the team every year replacing the entire team for each division.

Green is under real pressure from your fans to sign up what they would deem as quality players as is the Rangers tradition,anything less and they will boycott Ibrox in all probability !.So how much has Green got to invest upfront now ? or is he working on projected capital on attendances at Ibrox only ? these two need to be answered so you know what to expect on the park this coming season me thinks.

We'll need to agree to disagree here. If we take Green at face value (it may be a stretch to do so), then his objective is to make money, and do it as quickly as possible. The best route to doing this (and possibly the only viable route) is to get the club to the SPL as soon as possible but with minimal outlay. There are a few reasons for this, namely 1) there's going to be a fan exodus next season anyway - he must be aware of this and buying in all the "quality" players he can isn't going to change this, 2) some "fans" will inevitably return as soon as the games against Celtic appear, and 3) it's undoubtedly better financially to try to build a team while spending three years 2nd bottom of the SPL than it is to do so on the way up.

Anyway, assuming Sevco doesn't go into administration in the next 6 months, time will tell!

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The film tax scheme does exist - I heard of it a few years back second hand from reasonably high-profile player, now manager. Not a celtic player either. It isn't anything like tax evasion - it's investment as an alternative to straight tax. I'm not saying it's spot-on morally by any means - but it's a bit different from withholding NI and PAYE from wages and using it as working capital! It's also completely different from secret second contracts which was cheating in a sporting sense (it was forbidden by SFA rules).

Non-story.

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We'll need to agree to disagree here. If we take Green at face value (it may be a stretch to do so), then his objective is to make money, and do it as quickly as possible. The best route to doing this (and possibly the only viable route) is to get the club to the SPL as soon as possible but with minimal outlay. There are a few reasons for this, namely 1) there's going to be a fan exodus next season anyway - he must be aware of this and buying in all the "quality" players he can isn't going to change this, 2) some "fans" will inevitably return as soon as the games against Celtic appear, and 3) it's undoubtedly better financially to try to build a team while spending three years 2nd bottom of the SPL than it is to do so on the way up.

Anyway, assuming Sevco doesn't go into administration in the next 6 months, time will tell!

Soz I kinda overlooked the he is there only to make money bit.And we differ on building a team as you said.

One thing is for sure if the embargo starts from September 1st ! there will be stupid O'clock headlines linking EPL,Championship,SPL & top European leagues players to Ibrox :blink:.You know the media they just want your attention ! I can almost guarantee that !.

"Rangers in secret talks with Chris Boyd returning" and all that FFS.

I'm in agreement with some of your fans,they have a youth setup that can surely win promotion from Div 3.Aren't the youth at Murray Park the cherry picked stars of the future from other clubs as well as local ?Also the youth are not all 18 and under there are a few 19 and 20 year olds at least.

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Soz I kinda overlooked the he is there only to make money bit.And we differ on building a team as you said.

One thing is for sure if the embargo starts from September 1st ! there will be stupid O'clock headlines linking EPL,Championship,SPL & top European leagues players to Ibrox :blink:.You know the media they just want your attention ! I can almost guarantee that !.

"Rangers in secret talks with Chris Boyd returning" and all that FFS.

I'm in agreement with some of your fans,they have a youth setup that can surely win promotion from Div 3.Aren't the youth at Murray Park the cherry picked stars of the future from other clubs as well as local ?Also the youth are not all 18 and under there are a few 19 and 20 year olds at least.

It will be a miracle if they get out of the 3rd with a team full of youths IMO, they're likely to be kicked off the park so badly in the first few weeks that the heads will go down and they'll end up mid table.

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Soz I kinda overlooked the he is there only to make money bit.And we differ on building a team as you said.

One thing is for sure if the embargo starts from September 1st ! there will be stupid O'clock headlines linking EPL,Championship,SPL & top European leagues players to Ibrox :blink:.You know the media they just want your attention ! I can almost guarantee that !.

"Rangers in secret talks with Chris Boyd returning" and all that FFS.

I'm in agreement with some of your fans,they have a youth setup that can surely win promotion from Div 3.Aren't the youth at Murray Park the cherry picked stars of the future from other clubs as well as local ?Also the youth are not all 18 and under there are a few 19 and 20 year olds at least.

Yeah, the headlines will be absolutely mince and entirely unfounded as you say, but they'll sell papers to idiots and keep the Daily Record et al. circulation figures up for a few more weeks.

I'm not entirely sure who remains from the old youth squad, but I'm not convinced in the slightest that they would walk D3 without adding a few signings (especially as I think any remaining senior players now need to be sold ASAP to get their wages off the books).

It's been a few years since I regularly attended QP games, but I'm assuming that not much has changed: the league is full of very experienced pros and hard hitters. I don't want to say that the kids would get kicked all over the park, but they're certainly not going to find it easy.

As somebody else said recently, every game will be like a cup game - there's a scalp to be had!

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It will be a miracle if they get out of the 3rd with a team full of youths IMO, they're likely to be kicked off the park so badly in the first few weeks that the heads will go down and they'll end up mid table.

Lets hope so.

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Found a good post on RM.

Whats been your own personal favourite moment?

Motherwell Born Billionaire arrives

Whyte being applauded into his seat by the blue order

Front loaded warchest

Out to Malmo in CL Qualifier

Out to Maribor in EL Qualifier

Out to Falkirk in League Cup

BBC Documentary on Whyte proves he's a shyster

h*** protest at BBC for saying he's a shyster

League's over comment from Jelavic

Losing a 12 point lead to Timmy before new year

Loving Cup with CW - "To the Queen"

Selling Jelavic for a fraction of his value

Signing Celik

Seeing Celik play football

Rangers file for Administration

HMRC forcing them into Administration

CW speech to a massively upset h** crowd of 34 people

Revelation of Non-Tax payments

"The Big Hoose Must Stay open"

Hurting h*** EVERYWHERE

Retiring number 12 for the fans

The appointment of Duff & Phelps

Realising you recognise that guy at D&P because he turned up with CW 6 months earlier

Attempting to sign Cousin while in administration

Celik effs off

Wylde effs off

The player's taking a wage cut

The initial Creditor’s list

Losing their place in Europe to Motherwell

The fake pledges from fake h** fans from their fake massive support

The RFFF choosing to pay Dunfermline but not Dundee Utd - well played

The RFFF having to pay for Weir's retirement gift

The RFFF paying to re-lay a pitch which might never be used

The clown

The Fighting Fund in general

The Blue Knights

The Bill Ng bid

The Bill Miller "Incubator"

Quantum

Brian Kennedy

Quantum

Paul Murray

Quantum

"Yank go home" from the hordes

The Chick v Jabba catfight

The transfer embargo

The transfer embargo upheld

"Who are these people?" from Fat Sally

The h*** threaten to burn down the Raith Rover's stands

Alex Thomson and his general hunskelping

Jelly and Ice Cream

The Grim Reaper banner

Lennon lifts the League trophy

The inception of the "Pacific Shelf Theory"

We Don't Do Walking Away

The "We Don't Do Walking Away" song

Charles Green enters the story

Red Card to Liquidation - good plan

Dave King tells them not to buy season books - good plan

Green says if CVA not agreed Rangers will lose their History

CVA not agreed

HMRC Skelp them into oblivion

The BBC Documentary Part 2

The porn star

Prince Albert of Monaco

Joanna Lumley

The EBT 53 revealed

Walter tries to buy assets an hour after they're sold

Walter Walks Away

The Hampden protest

Unable to use Rangers name for newco until oldco is liquidated

All Scottish Football Fans turn on the h*** for their arrogance

Turnbull Hutton

Turnbull Hutton (deserves to be in twice!)

Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SPL

Newco told to get to eff with their SPL application

The presentation to the SPL revealed

Offering to take the transfer ban at the same time as trying to sign Black

Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SFL1

Newco told to get to eff with their SFL1 application

Newco put into SFL3

Return of the number 12 shirt

Booted out by Subbuteo

Booted out by Fifa 13 (maybe!)

Bomber Brown's rant on the steps of Tesco

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown on the radio

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown on sky sports

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown meeting with the RFFF

Everything Gordon Smith has said past, present and future

Chris McLaughlin reveals Ally is not wearing a tie

Naisy and Whitty Walk Away

Everybody Walks Away

Broadfoot Stays

The hurting from Jabba

The hurting from Chick

The hurting from Hately

h*** enter the Ramsden Cup

Still no license to play football

h*** compared to Kit-Kats

The inevitable reply - "tommy burns dying was fun"

Lovely bunch.

The best bit was gers fans screaming for coisty to get sacked after dun utd put them out the cup before a knuckle dragging comment about not walking away and a dose of administration had the same fans scurrying to buy " official coisty says we don't do walking away " t shirts this was a couple of months before coisty himself decided to walk away then walked away from walking away ????

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Heard a rumour that the SFL are looking at imposing some sort of handicap system on the 3rd Division this season. They fear that many games will be overly one sided, making the league an embarrasment, especially now it will be televised. For that reason in each match they are going to give SEVCO 3 goals of a start...

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I need to get a tee made. "Rangers fans don't do walking away" with pics of a bunch of union flag clad buns running away from ibrox in the distance...

There is an infinite number of ridiculous statements to play with "If they play on the streets, then we shall follow from the pavements....until police forbid it due to the safety risks involved". I saw someone on facebook with the whole shite about streets/pavement, yet her nor any of her family have ever been to Ibrox. rolleyes.gif

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Found a good post on RM.

Whats been your own personal favourite moment?

Motherwell Born Billionaire arrives

Whyte being applauded into his seat by the blue order

Front loaded warchest

Out to Malmo in CL Qualifier

Out to Maribor in EL Qualifier

Out to Falkirk in League Cup

BBC Documentary on Whyte proves he's a shyster

h*** protest at BBC for saying he's a shyster

League's over comment from Jelavic

Losing a 12 point lead to Timmy before new year

Loving Cup with CW - "To the Queen"

Selling Jelavic for a fraction of his value

Signing Celik

Seeing Celik play football

Rangers file for Administration

HMRC forcing them into Administration

CW speech to a massively upset h** crowd of 34 people

Revelation of Non-Tax payments

"The Big Hoose Must Stay open"

Hurting h*** EVERYWHERE

Retiring number 12 for the fans

The appointment of Duff & Phelps

Realising you recognise that guy at D&P because he turned up with CW 6 months earlier

Attempting to sign Cousin while in administration

Celik effs off

Wylde effs off

The player's taking a wage cut

The initial Creditor’s list

Losing their place in Europe to Motherwell

The fake pledges from fake h** fans from their fake massive support

The RFFF choosing to pay Dunfermline but not Dundee Utd - well played

The RFFF having to pay for Weir's retirement gift

The RFFF paying to re-lay a pitch which might never be used

The clown

The Fighting Fund in general

The Blue Knights

The Bill Ng bid

The Bill Miller "Incubator"

Quantum

Brian Kennedy

Quantum

Paul Murray

Quantum

"Yank go home" from the hordes

The Chick v Jabba catfight

The transfer embargo

The transfer embargo upheld

"Who are these people?" from Fat Sally

The h*** threaten to burn down the Raith Rover's stands

Alex Thomson and his general hunskelping

Jelly and Ice Cream

The Grim Reaper banner

Lennon lifts the League trophy

The inception of the "Pacific Shelf Theory"

We Don't Do Walking Away

The "We Don't Do Walking Away" song

Charles Green enters the story

Red Card to Liquidation - good plan

Dave King tells them not to buy season books - good plan

Green says if CVA not agreed Rangers will lose their History

CVA not agreed

HMRC Skelp them into oblivion

The BBC Documentary Part 2

The porn star

Prince Albert of Monaco

Joanna Lumley

The EBT 53 revealed

Walter tries to buy assets an hour after they're sold

Walter Walks Away

The Hampden protest

Unable to use Rangers name for newco until oldco is liquidated

All Scottish Football Fans turn on the h*** for their arrogance

Turnbull Hutton

Turnbull Hutton (deserves to be in twice!)

Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SPL

Newco told to get to eff with their SPL application

The presentation to the SPL revealed

Offering to take the transfer ban at the same time as trying to sign Black

Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SFL1

Newco told to get to eff with their SFL1 application

Newco put into SFL3

Return of the number 12 shirt

Booted out by Subbuteo

Booted out by Fifa 13 (maybe!)

Bomber Brown's rant on the steps of Tesco

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown on the radio

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown on sky sports

"Show us the title deeds"

Bomber Brown meeting with the RFFF

Everything Gordon Smith has said past, present and future

Chris McLaughlin reveals Ally is not wearing a tie

Naisy and Whitty Walk Away

Everybody Walks Away

Broadfoot Stays

The hurting from Jabba

The hurting from Chick

The hurting from Hately

h*** enter the Ramsden Cup

Still no license to play football

h*** compared to Kit-Kats

The inevitable reply - "tommy burns dying was fun"

Lovely bunch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

What a disgraceful, joke football club and everything to do with them in general.

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There is an infinite number of ridiculous statements to play with "If they play on the streets, then we shall follow from the pavements....until police forbid it due to the safety risks involved". I saw someone on facebook with the whole shite about streets/pavement, yet her nor any of her family have ever been to Ibrox. rolleyes.gif

It is your duty to write this on her wall :lol: .

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I'm not entirely sure who remains from the old youth squad, but I'm not convinced in the slightest that they would walk D3

I should have said they have been playing together for a few years or so the older of the youth,so may have some sort of team bonding and understanding as a team.

I wasn't suggesting they would cakewalk it BUT ! making it to the playoffs with a seasons senior team under their belts they may actually mature into a decent young outfit after maybe taking a few tough games at the start of the season.These youngsters have also played along with the senior team in the last few years so must have gotten at least more than a few tips from them.

From the likes of Elbows : how to take out a striker completely possibly causing serious injury whilst looking innocent and claiming the striker was feigning injury.And also my personal favourite ! run into the box and jump leading with your elbow taking the defender or keeper clean out of the game and heading the ball into the net :D.

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Heard a rumour that the SFL are looking at imposing some sort of handicap system on the 3rd Division this season. They fear that many games will be overly one sided, making the league an embarrasment, especially now it will be televised. For that reason in each match they are going to give SEVCO 3 goals

of a start...

Does this mean they are getting to keep their history then? :o

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Is everyone else just having tremendous fun at work, out and about, everywhere?

I have never heard so many quiet Sevco fans as I have over the last 3 weeks. You need to drag a conversation about it out of them laugh.giflaugh.gif

I cannot remember a period of 5 months in my life where I have had so much happiness.

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