T_S_A_R Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Its perfectly OK not to pay PAYE while in administration. These should be included in the costs of running the administration process. However, these costs ( like the D&P admin costs ) are effectively ring fenced when it comes o the CVA and Duff & Duffer have incorrectly added these to debt that the CVA will cover. Effectively, the 5.5 million in the pot for creditors is overstated by the amount of PAYE & NICs due during the period since 14th February. you are talking absolute shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) The good thing about Spartans having a say in Rangers dying is the Orcs will never find them - they'll be poring over AA road maps trying to find Sparta. So to Craig Graham I say this - Go tell the Spartans, thou who passest by, That here, obedient to the laws of the SFA, UEFA and FIFA, we will not lie Edited June 4, 2012 by NewBornBairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Just flicked on to the Jubilee concert. Beaker as Rick Astley is significantly better! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I am far from a place of light sanctions for a team who has cheated all of Scottish football for years and not just the past season the sanctions are applicable to. I am Dundee United through and through and while I would see them sent to the bottom of Div 3 in an instant I just cannot see it happening. I post intermittently on East Football but had hoped that P & B would be more accommodating to differing opinions and view points and not just denounce individuals straight off when offering differing opinions I think too many posters on here are grimly holding-on to the hope that the SFA will glibly take a 'nuclear' option of a year's suspension from the Association or expulsion. I think there is very little realistic hope of that. That's why I quite liked your 'pragmatic' suggestion of a 3 month suspension which would screw the Huns financially, and mean that after one round 0-3 automatic results they'd be right in line for relegation come the season-end. That's why I greened your post! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I read a document that compared the debts in D+P's original assessment with the ones in the CVA. The amount due to HMRC had jumped from £14m to £21m. I just assumed it was normal not to pay during administration, considering there was no outrage. edit: the aforementioned document. I see they owe shred-it another £484 since entering admin, wonder if thats them dealing with the ebt's, dual contracts and side letters . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I think too many posters on here are grimly holding-on to the hope that the SFA will glibly take a 'nuclear' option of a year's suspension from the Association or expulsion. I think there is very little realistic hope of that. That's why I quite liked your 'pragmatic' suggestion of a 3 month suspension which would screw the Huns financially, and mean that after one round 0-3 automatic results they'd be right in line for relegation come the season-end. That's why I greened your post! i'm fairly certain you can't be a member of a league while suspended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Granny danger putting them back or keeping them for future ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I am far from a place of light sanctions for a team who has cheated all of Scottish football for years and not just the past season the sanctions are applicable to. I am Dundee United through and through and while I would see them sent to the bottom of Div 3 in an instant I just cannot see it happening. I post intermittently on East Football but had hoped that P & B would be more accommodating to differing opinions and view points and not just denounce individuals straight off when offering differing opinions Away and shite. This isn't the Inquisition Orc Style. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I think too many posters on here are grimly holding-on to the hope that the SFA will glibly take a 'nuclear' option of a year's suspension from the Association or expulsion. I think there is very little realistic hope of that. That's why I quite liked your 'pragmatic' suggestion of a 3 month suspension which would screw the Huns financially, and mean that after one round 0-3 automatic results they'd be right in line for relegation come the season-end. That's why I greened your post! Please explain how a 3 month suspension would work in practice - or are you at the wind-up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 i'm fairly certain you can't be a member of a league while suspended. I'm fairly certain you're not allowed to cheat on tax payments or have dual contracts for your players. Didn't stop them before.........allegedly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billkmc Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 #SupportSpartansBid Seeing #SupportSpartansBid trending would be awesome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Can anyone get on Rangers media at the moment i can't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Please explain how a 3 month suspension would work in practice - or are you at the wind-up? It simply means they can play no fixtures during their period of suspension............on the 1st round, those fixtures are forfeited. If you look at the SFA's Articles of Association, then 'suspension' isn't exactly rigidly defined and I don't see why it couldn't operate this way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 if your suspended at the start of a competition you should still be suspended until the end IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGeeOneHamer Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Seeing #SupportSpartansBid trending would be awesome Let's get on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Can anyone get on Rangers media at the moment i can't Yes - you can go in a different way - google Rangersmedia and take the sub-link on there which is not direct to the forum. Once on the page that comes-up "Rangers 0-Kilmarnock 1, choose forums from the drop-down menu. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yes - you can go in a different way - google Rangersmedia and take the sub-link on there which is not direct to the forum. Once on the page that comes-up "Rangers 0-Kilmarnock 1, choose forums from the drop-down menu. Still doesn't work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yes - you can go in a different way - google Rangersmedia and take the sub-link on there which is not direct to the forum. Once on the page that comes-up "Rangers 0-Kilmarnock 1, choose forums from the drop-down menu. Firefox can't find the server at www.forum.rangersmedia.co.uk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad-83 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 1338836573[/url]' post='6302772']Please explain how a 3 month suspension would work in practice - or are you at the wind-up? The SFA charter notes suspension as one of the sanctions for brining the game into disrepute but I am unaware if this has ever been applied at senior level. It is new territory and unless it is for 9-12 months covering an entire season they will need to apply some as yet unknown criteria against a lesser timescale if that is what they opt for. A whole season suspension will finish the Evils in either their current or potentially future existence (if financial malpractice does not do so first) so if the SFA do want to save them in some shape or form a lesser term suspension would need to be applied. There is no yardstick for this event - I do not know how a 3 or 6 month suspension could be applied in practice and I would warrant a guess the SFA do not know either but are maybe considering all such permutations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p&b is a disgrace Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) you are talking absolute shite. One of the first things D&P will have done ( ok, correction - SHOULD have done ) was to have "Time To Pay" discussions with HMRC. This takes the financial pressure off while they prepare the CVA. HMRC are reasonable to deal with as long as you keep them informed and liabilities during the admin process are treated as costs of the administration process. HMRC effectively have secured status on liabilities accumulated during this period. Edited June 4, 2012 by p&b is a disgrace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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