WaffenThinMint Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The way I read that is it's better for Rangers to be due ticketus cash rather than a future contract. They can write off in a diluted CVA and not have that weighing them down for future seasons. Ah, gotcha now! Why would ticketus agree to this though, knowing fine well that would happen. You mean, another of Baldrick's cunning plans isn't as foolproof as he told Mr Blackadder it was? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Exactly the question I posed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I see Rangers fans are again blaming everyone else for being in this situation, http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=220587 Sir Winston Churchill)When a tyrant assumes a position of leadership within a country often the people are powerless to prevent it. They suffer the ravages of such tyranny until the oppressor is overthrown and removed from power. Events in Iraq the last few years are a timely reminder. However post tyranny you don't see the United nations seeking to punish the people of Iraq for events which they had no control over. Instead money, aid and expertise has been thrown towards them in an effort to help them re-establish themselves. Craig Whyte assumed control of Rangers when our former owner betrayed both his previous promises as well as his sense of moral duty. The carnage which followed is now well documented. One man's totalitarian rule at Ibrox has ravaged our club. He sold some of our cherished heritage, he banished Rangers legends making their role at Ibrox untenable, he sold star players for less than their market value and by his actions tarnished the name and reputation of Rangers Football Club. Had the SFA been more pro-active, as some in the know are suggesting they should have been, then such carnage could have been avoided. In fact if it was not proceduraly possible for them to intervene perhaps their energies should be to exploring their own constitution and procedures to ensure there is never a repeat. In fact here's a novel, although not unique, idea. Instead of seeking to punish Rangers for the actions of one totalitarian leader, perhaps the SFA, like the United Nations are doing in Iraq, should be helping in any way they can to allow Rangers Football Club to recover and re-establish themselves, post tyranny. Of course it's clear its not going to happen. What is happening to our club by way of punshment for the actions and conduct of Whyte is totally unfair and against the rules of natural justice. A football club which has conducted itself with honour and dignity for well over a hundred years is being punished with Draconian measures for the actions of one man during his tenure of several months. But the arguments have been heard and the decisions have been reached. Let their unfair punishments of Rangers Football Club be the indictment. Let the unfairness and injustice of it all serve as a catalyst and motivation to every single one of us. The Rangers supporters Groups and Assemblies who have been sitting despondent after attempts to take control of our club were doomed to fail, may have thought their chance for glory had gone. Let me tell you this there is a far greater opportunity presenting itself right in front of them. That opportunity is to channel in a united fashion the moral indignation being felt by every Bear, on mesageboard forums, supporters clubs and buses...in fact just about anywhere into an effective fighting force and protest against the injustice against our club. They need to make sure the boycotts which are been called for ad hoc on messageboards, are directed and organised into an effective weapon and explore all other avenues for effective action. It is the duty of every Bear, man woman or child, to step up and play when the conductors baton directs them. The army of Rangers supporters could bring this country to a standstill should they withhold their right to work for a day. But we are talking about potential here. Potential has to be realised and actioned, not threatened in newspapers or on messageboards. There is the potential for Scottish Football to be turned upside down by the Rangers support acting together as one with boycotts, withdrawing support from away games etc. This is not revenge, this is about fighting for justice for our club. And on the subject of unity – the guardians of our club need to join this protest. Withdrawal of Rangers players from representing Scotland would be a fine start. If the SFA are going to severely restrict our options on players with a transfer embargo, then why should we risk injury to those players we do have left representing a governing body who has done nothing to help, but plenty to hinder our recovery ? I sincerely hope the leaders of our supporter's groups rise to this challenge. Behaving with dignity and decorum does not appear to be effective in fairness or justice. Perhaps a more militant response will prove more beneficial. It certainly cant be any worse. Do I really want to fill the coffers of clubs who have sought to kick us when we are down ? It is time Bears. The soundbites of the politicians who promised to help seem to have faded away. Its up to every one us to do our bit to help our recovery. Its also time for us to show, but more importantly exercise the same disdain towards others, as they appear to show towards us. The time for dignified silence is over. The time for expecting fairness and justice is over. The SFA by their conduct and draconian punishments have unleashed a fury. A fury which only seems to grow with each passing day. Its time to channel that fury towards our enemies and those who seem indifferent to our plight. Its time Churchill's pledge which opened this article to be resurrected and put into practice. If we do so with the same vigour and commitment as those whose responded to it over 70 years ago, then woe betide the enemies of our club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Is this thread taking over your life? Have you worn out the F5 button on your lap top? Does your missus think you're having an online affair? Harry the Hibee said "I wanted to go to work, I really did, but every time I tried to get off my arse someone else posted a lol gif and that was me away again. For hours" "I've been getting funny looks from my boss, all i do all day is check my i-phone and laugh myself sick, it can't continue." Said some Arab. "I want to stop. But its just. *sniff* So.*sniff* F@#king. *sniff* Funny." Sobbed any Dons fan you care to meet. Don't worry folks you are not alone. I'd like to open my arms and invite you all of you to the first meeting of: The Big Rangers Administration Thread Anonymous or TBRAT(KACIH!) - A Here you can talk to like minded people about how funny this thread is and how it has affected your work and your private life. "When Bill Miller pulled out i thought it was the end. I didn't eat or sleep for 3 days. When I told my wife I've had nothing but pie and bovril for 72 hours, she said no wonder I looked awful. She just didn't understand" Wailed and anonymous fan of St Johnstone. We'll have free tea, coffee and of course jelly and ice cream for all. And if you think you're ready, start you on a 12 step programme to get you off it. Alternatively Renegers could finally just curl up and die so we can all get on with our lives. Thanks to everyone who's commented on this thread it is pure essence of giggle, thank you so much. Personally I hope they drag out the inevitable just a bit longer. Now just..... one....more...refresh...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 How do they know 5/6 clubs will go bust? They don't know what contingencies they have or if their banks are willing to restructure the debt for 3 years etc. Half the SPL will go bust without Rangers So even if they did go into administration (unlikely) why wouldn't they just get a CVA like every other team (except Rangers)? I'm unsure exactly how much Rangers are worth but it would be worrying if teams could disappear because of so little money. If the SPL know so many teams would die without Rangers it's amazing they have 1 relegation spot. I'd love examples of which teams are bye bye without Rangers? Ps i don't believe a word of it but just want to show how ridiculous it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 whats that skip? ticketus are part of the green families? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 My take is that he's just telling them what he thinks they want to hear to keep them onside - the Ticketus deal doesn't seem to make much sense unless the court case had some bearing on it. Seems to be playing well with ra peepul though No, its just playing well with Rainjurs Meeja. The GersNetOnline Twitter account was at the same meeting and their timeline reads, in summary 'I smell shite'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I love it when they refer to themselves as 'Bears' because I always get this mental image of fat beardy homosexuals hanging out in some seedy gay bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black sapper Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 No, its just playing well with Rainjurs Meeja. The GersNetOnline Twitter account was at the same meeting and their timeline reads, in summary 'I smell shite'. Yup, saw this Quote Interesting meeting at Ibrox earlier. I'm afraid Green was far from convincing & there wasn't enough time for any difficult questions. @GersnetOnline on Twitter · via Twitter<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Yup, saw this Quote Interesting meeting at Ibrox earlier. I'm afraid Green was far from convincing & there wasn't enough time for any difficult questions. @GersnetOnline on Twitter · via Twitter<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> He has learned much from the Chuckle Bros. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I love it when they refer to themselves as 'Bears' because I always get this mental image of fat beardy homosexuals hanging out in some seedy gay bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckleberry Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Just wait until the EBT enquiry gets under way and UEFA get involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kincardine Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Feedback from today''s meeting between Fan Reps and Green, according to RM, - season ticket prices frozen - Ticketus deal terminated, RFC now owe them money, not tickets Seem likely? So the big P&B and RM love-in continues. Lord Hodge decided in March that Ticketus were an ordinary creditor. No news here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 On a previous page, I laughed out loud when someone used the term 'cock womble'. Interestingly, if you run a Google image search.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Who want's to start the p&b Rangers in administration cost me my relationship thread? By the time Rangers finally die i suspect a lot of p&b divorcees would rather their man was looking at porn and jacking it off in the lounge infront of their pals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Sir Winston Churchill) When a tyrant assumes a position of leadership within a country often the people are powerless to prevent it. They suffer the ravages of such tyranny until the oppressor is overthrown and removed from power. Events in Iraq the last few years are a timely reminder. However post tyranny you don't see the United nations seeking to punish the people of Iraq for events which they had no control over. Instead money, aid and expertise has been thrown towards them in an effort to help them re-establish themselves. Craig Whyte assumed control of Rangers when our former owner betrayed both his previous promises as well as his sense of moral duty. The carnage which followed is now well documented. One man's totalitarian rule at Ibrox has ravaged our club. He sold some of our cherished heritage, he banished Rangers legends making their role at Ibrox untenable, he sold star players for less than their market value and by his actions tarnished the name and reputation of Rangers Football Club. Had the SFA been more pro-active, as some in the know are suggesting they should have been, then such carnage could have been avoided. In fact if it was not proceduraly possible for them to intervene perhaps their energies should be to exploring their own constitution and procedures to ensure there is never a repeat. In fact here's a novel, although not unique, idea. Instead of seeking to punish Rangers for the actions of one totalitarian leader, perhaps the SFA, like the United Nations are doing in Iraq, should be helping in any way they can to allow Rangers Football Club to recover and re-establish themselves, post tyranny. Of course it's clear its not going to happen. What is happening to our club by way of punshment for the actions and conduct of Whyte is totally unfair and against the rules of natural justice. A football club which has conducted itself with honour and dignity for well over a hundred years is being punished with Draconian measures for the actions of one man during his tenure of several months. But the arguments have been heard and the decisions have been reached. Let their unfair punishments of Rangers Football Club be the indictment. Let the unfairness and injustice of it all serve as a catalyst and motivation to every single one of us. The Rangers supporters Groups and Assemblies who have been sitting despondent after attempts to take control of our club were doomed to fail, may have thought their chance for glory had gone. Let me tell you this there is a far greater opportunity presenting itself right in front of them. That opportunity is to channel in a united fashion the moral indignation being felt by every Bear, on mesageboard forums, supporters clubs and buses...in fact just about anywhere into an effective fighting force and protest against the injustice against our club. They need to make sure the boycotts which are been called for ad hoc on messageboards, are directed and organised into an effective weapon and explore all other avenues for effective action. It is the duty of every Bear, man woman or child, to step up and play when the conductors baton directs them. The army of Rangers supporters could bring this country to a standstill should they withhold their right to work for a day. But we are talking about potential here. Potential has to be realised and actioned, not threatened in newspapers or on messageboards. There is the potential for Scottish Football to be turned upside down by the Rangers support acting together as one with boycotts, withdrawing support from away games etc. This is not revenge, this is about fighting for justice for our club. And on the subject of unity – the guardians of our club need to join this protest. Withdrawal of Rangers players from representing Scotland would be a fine start. If the SFA are going to severely restrict our options on players with a transfer embargo, then why should we risk injury to those players we do have left representing a governing body who has done nothing to help, but plenty to hinder our recovery ? I sincerely hope the leaders of our supporter's groups rise to this challenge. Behaving with dignity and decorum does not appear to be effective in fairness or justice. Perhaps a more militant response will prove more beneficial. It certainly cant be any worse. Do I really want to fill the coffers of clubs who have sought to kick us when we are down ? It is time Bears. The soundbites of the politicians who promised to help seem to have faded away. Its up to every one us to do our bit to help our recovery. Its also time for us to show, but more importantly exercise the same disdain towards others, as they appear to show towards us. The time for dignified silence is over. The time for expecting fairness and justice is over. The SFA by their conduct and draconian punishments have unleashed a fury. A fury which only seems to grow with each passing day. Its time to channel that fury towards our enemies and those who seem indifferent to our plight. Its time Churchill's pledge which opened this article to be resurrected and put into practice. If we do so with the same vigour and commitment as those whose responded to it over 70 years ago, then woe betide the enemies of our club Oh my actual fucking god. I can only assume the poster above has some sort of short circuit in the head as he can write, spell and construct a sentence or two but worryingly, is evidently completely fucking hatstand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Meanwhile self-confessed Wicca and RM's official ambassador to Narnia gives her two cents on the topic of Catholicism. Hocus pocus? You're supposed to be a fucking witch! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somner`s love child Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 We considered officially changing our name to Perth St Johnstone as our early European venture saw foreign peeps looking at maps and assuming we came from the weegie enclave of Johnstone. W.as`nt it going to be the quite funky Perth SJ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogodon Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Is this thread taking over your life? Have you worn out the F5 button on your lap top? Does your missus think you're having an online affair? Harry the Hibee said "I wanted to go to work, I really did, but every time I tried to get off my arse someone else posted a lol gif and that was me away again. For hours" "I've been getting funny looks from my boss, all i do all day is check my i-phone and laugh myself sick, it can't continue." Said some Arab. "I want to stop. But its just. *sniff* So.*sniff* F@#king. *sniff* Funny." Sobbed any Dons fan you care to meet. Don't worry folks you are not alone. I'd like to open my arms and invite you all of you to the first meeting of: The Big Rangers Administration Thread Anonymous or TBRAT(KACIH!) - A Here you can talk to like minded people about how funny this thread is and how it has affected your work and your private life. "When Bill Miller pulled out i thought it was the end. I didn't eat or sleep for 3 days. When I told my wife I've had nothing but pie and bovril for 72 hours, she said no wonder I looked awful. She just didn't understand" Wailed and anonymous fan of St Johnstone. We'll have free tea, coffee and of course jelly and ice cream for all. And if you think you're ready, start you on a 12 step programme to get you off it. Alternatively Renegers could finally just curl up and die so we can all get on with our lives. Thanks to everyone who's commented on this thread it is pure essence of giggle, thank you so much. Personally I hope they drag out the inevitable just a bit longer. Now just..... one....more...refresh...... I was actually thinking I might need a support group for when this all comes to an end. Either that or some kinda P&B methadone, to wean me off this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckleberry Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So the big P&B and RM love-in continues. Lord Hodge decided in March that Ticketus were an ordinary creditor. No news here. So in that case why are ticketus suing Whyte if the debt is with Rangers ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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