Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Bet you guessed right! http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/nov/02/muhammad-cartoon-french-magazine-charlie-hebdo-video?newsfeed=true In advance of a special 'Arab Spring' edition of the satirical magazine coming out, the offices of Charlie Hebdo were firebombed. I suppose we could assume it was a false flag operation set up to put the blame on radical Muslims. I think the safer assumption is that this attack was carried out by radical Muslims. We cannot tar all Muslims with the same brush. But freedom of speech is under threat: attacks like this have a chilling effect on all of us. It's the responsibility of all of us, and of western governments, not to give in to such cowardly attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Islamophobic racism as usual from Swampy. We need to respect the culture of fuds who firebomb newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the 69 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Deport the b*****ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 We cannot tar all Muslims with the same brush. But freedom of speech is under threat: attacks like this have a chilling effect on all of us. It's the responsibility of all of us, and of western governments, not to give in to such cowardly attacks. Agreed. It is vital we don't let the terrorists win. Radical Islamists must be treated with the scorn they deserve, and we must demonstrate that we're not willing to let them take our freedom away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Deport the b*****ds. Keep the xenophobia out of the thread... there is every chance - in fact, a greater chance than the alternative - that the attackers are French citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Apparently this week's edition of the magazine was called "Sharia Hebdo" and featured the prophet Mohammed as editor-in-chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Deport the b*****ds. Deport who exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Team: Rangers Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I used to read Charlie Hebdo when I lived in France a few years ago. It is very much a satirical paper with fairly over the top cartoons. They are against any form of intolerance or corruption whether it is right wing, left wing or Islamic. It could be extremists from any of these diverse groups which carried out the attack. They had just published an "Islamic" edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjenova Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees. Yes, what everyone should do is never satirise anything again. Craven pandering to bigots is the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees. Go f**k yourself, you victim blaming coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth. Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth. Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh? google image "charlie Hebdo" (be careful) and you get a selection of some of their front covers. I don't think any group escapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth. Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh? No mitigation whatsoever for the nutters. Unless the Editor is braindead, he knew exactly what he was trying to provoke. A violent reaction by pcychos and consequent stirring up if islamophobia. Job done, as you will see in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 No mitigation whatsoever for the nutters. Unless the Editor is braindead, he knew exactly what he was trying to provoke. A violent reaction by pcychos and consequent stirring up if islamophobia. Job done, as you will see in this thread. Absolute proper bad 'un, you. I suppose you think battered wives have brought it on themselves if they don't have the tea out in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Absolute proper bad 'un, you. I suppose you think battered wives have brought it on themselves if they don't have the tea out in time? Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Oh dear... ^^^ has adopted a morally indefensible position; scrambling for respectability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 ^^^ has adopted a morally indefensible position; scrambling for respectability Retreats to standard boxoffice response, desperate for last word.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Oh dear... He makes a very good point. Your logic of 'they brought it on themselves' isn't a whole leap of thought away from what some people think about rape victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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