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French magazine office firebombed...

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Bet you guessed right!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/nov/02/muhammad-cartoon-french-magazine-charlie-hebdo-video?newsfeed=true

In advance of a special 'Arab Spring' edition of the satirical magazine coming out, the offices of Charlie Hebdo were firebombed.

I suppose we could assume it was a false flag operation set up to put the blame on radical Muslims. I think the safer assumption is that this attack was carried out by radical Muslims.

We cannot tar all Muslims with the same brush. But freedom of speech is under threat: attacks like this have a chilling effect on all of us. It's the responsibility of all of us, and of western governments, not to give in to such cowardly attacks.

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We cannot tar all Muslims with the same brush. But freedom of speech is under threat: attacks like this have a chilling effect on all of us. It's the responsibility of all of us, and of western governments, not to give in to such cowardly attacks.

Agreed. It is vital we don't let the terrorists win. Radical Islamists must be treated with the scorn they deserve, and we must demonstrate that we're not willing to let them take our freedom away.

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Deport the b*****ds.

Keep the xenophobia out of the thread... there is every chance - in fact, a greater chance than the alternative - that the attackers are French citizens.

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Apparently this week's edition of the magazine was called "Sharia Hebdo" and featured the prophet Mohammed as editor-in-chief.

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This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees.

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I used to read Charlie Hebdo when I lived in France a few years ago. It is very much a satirical paper with fairly over the top cartoons.

They are against any form of intolerance or corruption whether it is right wing, left wing or Islamic. It could be extremists from any of these diverse groups which carried out the attack. They had just published an "Islamic" edition.

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This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees.

Yes, what everyone should do is never satirise anything again. Craven pandering to bigots is the way forward. :rolleyes:

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This magazine must have been desperate for publicity and revenue to pull this stunt. Satirising Islam is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, and usually provokes no response. Sticking a picture of Mohammed on the cover can have only one purpose, to provoke nutters into violent threats and action, and gaining worldwide publicity for your rag. The publishers are clearly more concerned with filthy lucre than the safety of their employees.

Go f**k yourself, you victim blaming coward.

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For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth.

Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh?

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For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth.

Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh?

google image "charlie Hebdo" (be careful) and you get a selection of some of their front covers. I don't think any group escapes.

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For anyone else tempted to follow welshbairn's lead: Charlie Hebdo (in various incarnations) is already very famous in France, its original publication date being 1961. It's seen a lot of changes since then. This isn't even its first edition spoofing Islam. So the accusations of bandwagonery are as flawed as they are craven. In fact in 2007 they were taken to court for an issue on Islam (they won.) Finally, the 'publisher' is also an 'employee' in that he is also the editor. The idea that this issue was put together at the behest of some distant suit by tearful, petrified, reluctant waifs could not be further from the truth.

Welshbairn, your mitigation for an act of terror means that you are a proper bad 'un. Do the decent thing, eh?

No mitigation whatsoever for the nutters. Unless the Editor is braindead, he knew exactly what he was trying to provoke. A violent reaction by pcychos and consequent stirring up if islamophobia. Job done, as you will see in this thread.

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No mitigation whatsoever for the nutters. Unless the Editor is braindead, he knew exactly what he was trying to provoke. A violent reaction by pcychos and consequent stirring up if islamophobia. Job done, as you will see in this thread.

Absolute proper bad 'un, you. I suppose you think battered wives have brought it on themselves if they don't have the tea out in time?

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Absolute proper bad 'un, you. I suppose you think battered wives have brought it on themselves if they don't have the tea out in time?

Oh dear...

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Oh dear...

^^^

has adopted a morally indefensible position; scrambling for respectability

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^^^

has adopted a morally indefensible position; scrambling for respectability

Retreats to standard boxoffice response, desperate for last word....

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Oh dear...

He makes a very good point. Your logic of 'they brought it on themselves' isn't a whole leap of thought away from what some people think about rape victims.

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