~~~ Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The wall was built by Thatcher I believe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock001 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The condition of the Stadium certainly did contribute to the Heysel disaster but certainly not as much as the hooligan culture of many 'football fans'. It's utterly ludicrous to blame liverpool FC or the majority of their supporters for it though and calling it murder is laughable. There were a few Scottish teams with much worse reputations for football hooliganism than Liverpool and hooliganism still has a major influence in many places. It's even coming back here with the whole 'ultra' culture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 If the wall was at fault for heysel then the fence was to blame for hillsborough. Let's start a new trend of blaming inanimate objects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 If the wall was at fault for heysel then the fence was to blame for hillsborough. Let's start a new trend of blaming inanimate objects. Yeah the fence as long as it wasnt those cheeky friendly scousers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 If the wall was at fault for heysel then the fence was to blame for hillsborough. Let's start a new trend of blaming inanimate objects. Liverpool, always the victims etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_team_for_me Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 If the wall was at fault for heysel then the fence was to blame for hillsborough. Let's start a new trend of blaming inanimate objects. Liverpool, always the victims etc etc. Heysel was crumbling though. Why don't you people see that? You see to be very selective in what you believe which in turn makes what you have to say on the matter void. Even Juventus fc are saying the game shouldn't of been played it that stadium ffs. Hooliganism was at its height at that time. There was chicken wire fence separating liverpool fans (20 were stabbed in their previous final btw in roma) and juventus fans. Juventus fans where throwing coins etc at the liverpool fans who retaliated. The italians as always legged it and a wall collapsed. That is fact. That is what happened. Liverpool fans didn't go to the game saying each other, hay lets murder some italians, You twats just hate liverpool to such an extent you will stoop to any low to make you think you can take a moral stance against them. No supporter of any club the world over can take a moral stance against liverpool football club and you fucing know it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) Why don't you see that?! Edited June 1, 2014 by NewDomDom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Yas a fucking meltdown, not seen one on here in a while Continue fine fellow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Nobody mention the bulgarian waiter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Heysel was crumbling though. Why don't you people see that? You see to be very selective in what you believe which in turn makes what you have to say on the matter void. Even Juventus fc are saying the game shouldn't of been played it that stadium ffs. Hooliganism was at its height at that time. There was chicken wire fence separating liverpool fans (20 were stabbed in their previous final btw in roma) and juventus fans. Juventus fans where throwing coins etc at the liverpool fans who retaliated. The italians as always legged it and a wall collapsed. That is fact. That is what happened. Liverpool fans didn't go to the game saying each other, hay lets murder some italians, You twats just hate liverpool to such an extent you will stoop to any low to make you think you can take a moral stance against them. No supporter of any club the world over can take a moral stance against liverpool football club and you fucing know it. That you are Any comment on why Liverpool fans find it acceptable to mock the events at Heysel? Doesn't it strike you as double standards ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Nobody mention the bulgarian waiter Aye, where is he? I've been sitting here for ages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Liverpool fans become so angry at anyone who dares questions Hillsborough, the charity refuse to take a £1k from Alan Davis http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127608/Alan-Davies-Hillsborough-rant-Charity-refuses-1k-donation-backlash-continues.html All he said was this.. He was spot on, Liverpool fucked over Chelsea at the time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I had never heard of Heysel until quite recently, certainly doesn't get mentioned anywhere near as much as the obvious.. Hillsborough has got so much attention in recent years because of the cover-up. That's why you hear more about it than the Heysel disaster. It seems to be trendy on here to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Both of these tragedies could've happened to any big British club - but the cover-up was absolutely disgusting. There was an opportunity to blame working class northerners and the (various) authorities grabbed it with both hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Working class??? Scousers??? Come on to f**k, you've had one too many. Apparently the Steaua flag only came about as 'Reds' were pissed off at the 'Blues' turning their cuddly-love in derby into a slanging match involving words like 'merderers' and such like. Typical classless vermin, arguably worse than the biggest if bigots you'll find up here by virtue of their inflated social conscience. The Waiters Union of Bulgaria im sure would agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hillsborough has got so much attention in recent years because of the cover-up. That's why you hear more about it than the Heysel disaster. It seems to be trendy on here to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Both of these tragedies could've happened to any big British club - but the cover-up was absolutely disgusting. There was an opportunity to blame working class northerners and the (various) authorities grabbed it with both hands. Definitely a disgrace, been watching loads on youtube about it and what they did was shocking and i don't blame liverpool for constantly going on about it. Absolutely awful what the police did - the bodies weren't even cold and the police were accusing the deceased when they got statements from their loved ones. It is blatantly obvious from the footage you can see that the police were doing nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Heysel was crumbling though. Why don't you people see that? You see to be very selective in what you believe which in turn makes what you have to say on the matter void. Even Juventus fc are saying the game shouldn't of been played it that stadium ffs. Hooliganism was at its height at that time. There was chicken wire fence separating liverpool fans (20 were stabbed in their previous final btw in roma) and juventus fans. Juventus fans where throwing coins etc at the liverpool fans who retaliated. The italians as always legged it and a wall collapsed. That is fact. That is what happened. Liverpool fans didn't go to the game saying each other, hay lets murder some italians, You twats just hate liverpool to such an extent you will stoop to any low to make you think you can take a moral stance against them. No supporter of any club the world over can take a moral stance against liverpool football club and you fucing know it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hillsborough has got so much attention in recent years because of the cover-up. That's why you hear more about it than the Heysel disaster. It seems to be trendy on here to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Both of these tragedies could've happened to any big British club - but the cover-up was absolutely disgusting. There was an opportunity to blame working class northerners and the (various) authorities grabbed it with both hands. That's the way I view it. Of course it's going to be a massively contentious issue to Liverpool after the way it was covered up by the government and the police. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal till I die Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If it weren't for Paul Vaessen, people would be calling Valencia fans murderers instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hillsborough has got so much attention in recent years because of the cover-up. That's why you hear more about it than the Heysel disaster. It seems to be trendy on here to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Both of these tragedies could've happened to any big British club - but the cover-up was absolutely disgusting. There was an opportunity to blame working class northerners and the (various) authorities grabbed it with both hands. Hillsborough has got so much attention because people keep going on about it. There's no question that the injustices and cover-up should be investigated, however I think a lot of what they do and the amount of publicity, and reaction to people less enamoured with their cause than they are, is a bit counter-productive to their efforts and turns people away from them. I kind of agree with what Alan Davies said - if they had played the game and perhaps had some kind of service before/after, mark of remembrance on the pitch then surely that would have been appropriate. Refusing to play on the day is a massive overreaction to the occassion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Ugh Postmen refusing to deliver the sun http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mersey-postmen-refuse-join-suns-7235285 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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