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On 10/04/2022 at 17:01, Jacksgranda said:

Everton would need to be safe when they pitch up at the Emirates on the last day of the season, as they won't be getting anything there. Meanwhile Burnley will entertain Newcastle, who will have nothing to play for.

I reckon the Toffees need at least nine points. Where from? Leicester City (H), Brentford (H), Crystal Palace (H). Maybe a bonus draw against Chelsea (H). Their horrendous away form precludes much hope, perhaps a draw at Leicester and/or Watford. Seems doable, particularly if you say it quick. Null points against Liverpool (A) and Arsenal (A). However, what are the chances of a team winning 3 out of 8, when they've only won 8 out of 30?

They also have to hope that Burnley don't pick up more than 11 points from WHU (A), Southampton (H), Wolves (H), Watford (A), Aston Villa (H), Spurs (A), Aston Villa (A) and Newcastle (H). I can see 4 home wins there, never mind anything away, so the Blues have no room for manoeuvre.

And Watford on 22 points aren't out of it with home games against both Burnley and Everton, although they have only 7 games left, but they also have Brentford and Leicester at home.

11 points with a game to go, which doesn't matter now.

Quite good, it seems.

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below "borrowed" from The Athletic.. 

Moshri has been a disaster (compared to the potential). Usmanov is gone...so should be positive if this mob are at least professional.

We've no assets left to strip so cant see it being like the Glazers...personally as this is Everton - I dont see it happening this summer. Moshri will hold on until the new stadium is ready and sell for double what's being offered now (assuming we dont get relegated in the mean time)  

 

Explained: Everton’s proposed takeover
By Greg O'Keeffe, Matt Slater and Paddy Boyland

Everton owner Farhad Moshiri originally intended to talk about stadium funding.

The Iran-born billionaire agreed to speak with Peter Kenyon’s consortium of finance heavyweights to find out what they might be able to offer his club’s project to build a glistening new 53,000-seat ground on the banks of the River Mersey.

But then it became apparent that Kenyon, gold-mining magnate John L. Thornton and real-estate tycoon Maciek Kaminski were interested in more than that — in buying a controlling stake in the club itself. Moshiri continued to listen.

Chastened by events last season which culminated in a brush with the club’s first relegation since 1951 and the withdrawal of key sponsor Alisher Usmanov as the global economy was rocked by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Moshiri has been contacted by several groups interested in acquiring his majority share of Everton.

To date, the group led by former Chelsea and Manchester United chief executive Kenyon are in pole position.

There has been a head of terms agreement drafted — essentially a non-binding document that sets out the main issues in a proposed takeover or sale.

Nobody close to the talks expects them to be resolved imminently.

Some close to Moshiri are urging caution, counselling him that if he were to plough ahead with building the stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock in time for the 2024-25 season, he may then be able to sell the club for around £1 billion — double the £500 million he presently values Everton at.

But Moshiri, who seven days ago broke his silence to supporters to apologise for the mistakes of his six-year reign thus far and reiterate his commitment to building Goodison Park’s successor, may yet decide two years is too long to wait.

The Athletic understands that, ideally, the former accountant would retain a 10 per cent stake in the club after any potential takeover, but it remains to be seen if his conditions and valuation of the club are shared by any of the interested parties.

Moshiri may want to remain in a new era under new owners, but there have been suggestions the Everton board could look substantially different should a takeover happen.

Why would Moshiri be open to selling?

It was only last week that Moshiri appeared to publicly reaffirm his commitment to Everton.

In an open letter to fans, he apologised for the mistakes made under his leadership, which began in 2016, and promised to “deliver a fully-funded new stadium” that would “underpin our status as a leading club”.

“Of course, the stadium alone will not help us achieve our objectives and we are committed to not making the same mistakes again, including how we have not always spent significant amounts of money wisely,” he wrote.

Yet it was a troubling season on and off the pitch; one that has taken its toll on many at Goodison, including Moshiri. After spending just £1.7 million on new players last summer, Everton only narrowly avoided a first-ever relegation from the Premier League, securing their top-flight status with one game to spare.

The big game-changer, though, came in February, with Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine sparking a chain of events that saw Everton temporarily sever ties with a host of sponsors linked to Russian Usmanov. Those deals have been suspended indefinitely, and are highly unlikely to return. Moshiri has also been forced to distance himself from Usmanov, a close business associate and someone who has at times been a looming presence behind the scenes at the club.

Worth in the region of £20 million a year, and with the potential for more later down the line in the form of a stadium naming rights deal, the loss of those deals left a significant hole in the finances of a club that had already posted three successive annual losses of over £100 million.

Even with the money from Usmanov’s company USM in place, Everton had been in regular dialogue with Premier League officials for well over 12 months regarding their ongoing compliance with financial fair play regulations.

They are having to be more careful now than at any point in the Moshiri era, and can no longer look to spend their way out of a mess even if they did have the money to try to do so.

Tough decisions have already been made.

Last week, Everton agreed a record sponsorship deal with Stake.com which will mean a gambling firm’s logo again appears on the chests of their shirts, two years after splitting from SportPesa.

While it may plug a clear shortfall in funding, the move has attracted criticism from some supporters and campaigners. Back in 2020, the club’s then and current chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale admitted that, “in an ideal world”, Everton would not have a gambling sponsor in the most prominent position on their match-day kits.

Yet here they are, already back in that territory.

Some would say out of necessity.

The events of the last few months mean Everton are very far from operating in an ideal world. The well has almost run dry.

Until recently, there has always been an insistence on the part of Moshiri and Everton that he remained fully committed to the cause. Reports that Moshiri was considering selling, particularly after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, were quickly denied by all camps. His commitment to plough in an additional £242 million, as revealed in January’s accounts, also appeared to show his unflinching support.

But the whispers continued and it is true that the search for extra investment, in one shape or form, started some time ago.

With the owner’s blessing, Everton have had talks with numerous potential partners over financing for the new stadium, with Moshiri also said to have been keen at various junctures to bring in further additional funding to supplement his running of the club.

Those talks, which have been underway for some months, have now escalated further… and developed into something else entirely.

These are tough conditions in which to secure new finance. Tougher still, if those you are trying to convince to invest do not feel as though they’d be able to put their stamp on proceedings.

Who is in Kenyon’s consortium?

The group is fronted by a familiar face to football supporters, as well as Everton manager Frank Lampard: Peter Kenyon.

The former Manchester United and Chelsea chief executive is understood to be leading the talks so far.

Since leaving Stamford Bridge in 2009, Kenyon has become a director at influential football consultancy business, Opto Advisers.

From his headquarters in Jersey’s capital St Helier, the 68-year-old has worked with various prospective owners, playing an important role in the Qatari takeover of Paris Saint-Germain in 2011 and advising Chinese conglomerate Fosun International on their purchase of Wolverhampton Wanderers six years ago. He was also involved in a failed bid to buy Newcastle United.

But in global terms, the most high-profile member of the group is US businessman John L. Thornton. Also 68, Thornton is a billionaire and the executive chairman of Barrick Gold, the world’s biggest gold and copper mining company.

His gilded career encompassed a period as a star banker at Goldman Sachs, leading the investment giant’s European expansion in the 1980s before rising to become its president.

From there, he moved into academia and the orbit of politics. A professorship at Tsinghua University in China’s capital Beijing followed, along with becoming chair of the board at the Brookings Institute, a think tank in Washington, DC.

Thornton also worked in a senior role at HSBC bank but was lured to Barrick Gold in 2012 with a reported $12 million welcome package. “John was a highly desirable, well-known commodity,” the company’s then-chair Peter Munk told Barrick’s annual meeting. “We had to secure him.”

Thornton’s esteem in political circles continued.

His knowledge of Chinese commerce and his connections in the Far East led the administration of previous US president Donald Trump to ask the urbane, Harvard-educated father-of-four to represent the country in trade talks with China.

In the hours after the news of Thornton’s involvement in the Everton consortium broke, a photograph began circulating on social media of Thornton dining with Trump’s controversial former advisor Steve Bannon and former UK politician turned right-wing commentator Nigel Farage.

Alongside Kenyon and Thornton around the table will be American real-estate tycoon Maciek Kaminski, who is chief executive of Minneapolis-based Talon Real Estate. The Polish-born businessman may be less well known than Thornton but reportedly hopes for a significant role in any takeover.

What would a takeover mean for the new stadium?

Whatever happens, Moshiri is likely to want — at the very least — to make good on his promise to help deliver Everton’s new home at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Whether that is with him still at the helm or through other investors, though, remains to be seen.

Backed by his money, the £500 million project continues apace. Moshiri supplied the funds for the now-completed preparatory works at the site and, more recently, the club signed what is in essence a fixed-costs agreement with constructor Laing O’Rourke. It is still on course to be completed in time for 2024-25, and is still on budget.

With the help of US finance giant JP Morgan and Japanese bank MUFG, Everton continue to look for stadium funding. This has been the basis of past talks with investors, which has, in turn, paved the way for these more serious conversations over a fully-fledged takeover.

In the ongoing absence of the right funding partner for the new stadium, The Athletic understands Moshiri has offered to front the money until such time as conditions in the private lending sector improve.

Any consortium, the Kenyon one or otherwise, would need to ensure the project is fully funded and seen through to fruition — a substantial commitment that would almost double the cost of Everton for any potential buyer.

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Richarlison to Spurs is done, but the weird interest in Anthony Gordon has apparently stopped (if it ever existed).

Will be a shame seeing Richarlison's insane antics elsewhere.


Won’t be missed IMO. Incredible that Everton paid £50 million for him in the first place, so to recoup that and then some is a win. He’s a petulant player prone to a bit of diving. Never really been a fan of him.
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57 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

 


Won’t be missed IMO. Incredible that Everton paid £50 million for him in the first place, so to recoup that and then some is a win. He’s a petulant player prone to a bit of diving. Never really been a fan of him.

 

Bet you’ll miss his goals

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1 hour ago, jamamafegan said:

 


Won’t be missed IMO. Incredible that Everton paid £50 million for him in the first place, so to recoup that and then some is a win. He’s a petulant player prone to a bit of diving. Never really been a fan of him.

 

Me neither, but he did score some important goals last season.

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Won't be missed? That's crazy. We lost all the assists last season (James/Digne), now there go the goals. If DCL has another injury prone season, who is scoring the goals to stay up? 

Emmanuel Dennis has agreed terms apparently. Fee still being negotiated. Watford want £20m, Everton keen to drive it down closed to £15m

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He is such divisive player. Yes he can be game changer, but at what price with all the theatrics? I think he will do really well at Spurs as he will see more of the ball in advanced areas of the pitch.

I hope the Blues can sign someone better who has a better goal to game ratio. Saying that the clubs transfer dealings in last few seasons has been horrendous with large fees paid out for very poor players.

Anyone heard what’s the latest with our former Icelandic numero 10?

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3 hours ago, accies1874 said:

Richarlison to Spurs is done, but the weird interest in Anthony Gordon has apparently stopped (if it ever existed).

Will be a shame seeing Richarlison's insane antics elsewhere.

So where does he and Perisic fit into Conte's' preferred 3-4-3 formation?

Richarlison could presumably as Kane and Son are automatic starters. 

Kulusevski impressed after his arrival last season 

Levy would be crazy to sell Son to Real Madrid if their rumoured interest is "real".

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4 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said:

He is such divisive player. Yes he can be game changer, but at what price with all the theatrics? I think he will do really well at Spurs as he will see more of the ball in advanced areas of the pitch.

I hope the Blues can sign someone better who has a better goal to game ratio. Saying that the clubs transfer dealings in last few seasons has been horrendous with large fees paid out for very poor players.

Anyone heard what’s the latest with our former Icelandic numero 10?

Contract is up today, as is Delph's and Tosun's 

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9 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

So where does he and Perisic fit into Conte's' preferred 3-4-3 formation?

Richarlison could presumably as Kane and Son are automatic starters. 

Kulusevski impressed after his arrival last season 

Levy would be crazy to sell Son to Real Madrid if their rumoured interest is "real".

Yeah I think it's a big gamble on his part going there in a World Cup year with their existing front 3. I wonder if someone is being moved on?

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So where does he and Perisic fit into Conte's' preferred 3-4-3 formation?
Richarlison could presumably as Kane and Son are automatic starters. 
Kulusevski impressed after his arrival last season 
Levy would be crazy to sell Son to Real Madrid if their rumoured interest is "real".


Did Perisic play wing-back for him at Inter? Suppose they'll want a wee bit of rotation when competing in the CL, but "squad depth!" that results in at least one mega-buck player sitting on the bench never seems to work as well as Twitter Fans say it will.
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Did Perisic play wing-back for him at Inter? Suppose they'll want a wee bit of rotation when competing in the CL, but "squad depth!" that results in at least one mega-buck player sitting on the bench never seems to work as well as Twitter Fans say it will.

 

Are Spurs not a big enough team to have their own thread?

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