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3 hours ago, craigkillie said:

I don't understand why the SPFL would investigate this in the first place given that there's no strict liability and they wouldn't be able to punish County anyway.

True. An attempt to be seen to be pro-active on the subject? They'd get a kicking for sitting back and being seen to ignore a very real issue, and left to the clubs alone there's a danger of an us-and-them or he-said-I-said outcome. A hiding either way. It'd be nice to have all the 'evidence' in the public domain - lots of views and comments and t-shirts - but I've yet to hear detail supporting the 'judgements'. (Unless I've missed something).

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I don't understand why the SPFL would investigate this in the first place given that there's no strict liability and they wouldn't be able to punish County anyway.

Aye I thought this myself. Such a hard thing to prove either way. Understand they have to go through the whole process of an investigation but it must be very tough to prove whether the culprit was guilty or not.
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Even ignoring the manager, who could've predicted that releasing 3/4s of a squad all at once would at best equal a slow start to the season?

Aye, no way Midge would add anything to this team.

3 games left in October: Livingston at home, Dundee away & Hibs at home. If there's still no wins when we've played the 2 teams closest to us in the league then Malky has to go. I mean he has to go anyway but fucking hell. If they are just writing the season off after 1/4 of it has been played then at least give some of the young lads a chance because at this point it's not like any of them could be less effective than our first team forwards who've managed 1 goal between them in the league.

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But that belief has to have soul with it. So, after 10 years its ‘Where is the soul, where is the cause?’, you are a Premiership club but ‘who are you?’. So, as we go forward now, we have probably come to a junction in the road that we need to go and examine who we are, to understand if the values we had 25 years ago still apply today.”

“Football is very different to every other business. But the successful teams know who they are. Whether you are Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, the identity of that club is very clear and I do feel that from my position, that after 9 out of 10 years in the Premiership, we need to uncover our identity again and to make sure that for the next 10 years the direction is very clear and mapped out well.”

“We do need to take stock and particularly that relationship with the fan has to become stronger. We have less community clubs, which puts more pressure on us. We need to understand, clearly, where we are and where we need to go. 

 

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😂 what fucking clown said that?  That’s aged very well. Our identity is now of an absolute bunch of jobbers playing for a racist.  There is no “soul”.  The “soul” of the club has always been the fans and the community, but you ripped that away with the appointment of a known racist.

County are getting what they deserve. 

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what fucking clown said that?  That’s aged very well. Our identity is now of an absolute bunch of jobbers playing for a racist.  There is no “soul”.  The “soul” of the club has always been the fans and the community, but you ripped that away with the appointment of a known racist.
County are getting what they deserve. 

Racism issues aside, was he even that good a manager anyway, don’t think his record was that great. Yes Cardiff, but did he not leave them in financial trouble. I can’t really comment too much as I stopped going to the games (my money won’t contribute to his wages), but I read and hear the same stuff every week. We are a shambles, not overly surprised, we were terrible last season, let a lot of players go, replaced them with kids on loan and a couple strikers with really bad scoring records.
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19 minutes ago, Loki said:

😂 what fucking clown said that?  That’s aged very well. Our identity is now of an absolute bunch of jobbers playing for a racist.  There is no “soul”.  The “soul” of the club has always been the fans and the community, but you ripped that away with the appointment of a known racist.

County are getting what they deserve. 

It still amazes me that the very next day Roy went and appointed Mackay. It's one thing abandoning it all in exchange for success but to abandon it all in exchange for our worst ever start to a season?

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I've not watched County at all this season - other than highlights - so I'm probably not best placed to comment but "0 wins in 9 games" and "3 points from 27" seem to be more important statistics than "had lots of shots".

We've go three equally dreadful strikers who will get 8 goals between them. Yet another hapless clown at centre-back, and the only good defender punted out at right-back because the actual right-back should be clogging about the eighth tier of English football. The only roll of the dice seems to be that maybe the keeper should be dropped and Ross Laidlaw can save us.

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1 hour ago, forkboy said:

tbh glad they are doing well. Still think neither is any worse than what we've replaced them with.

Well McKay is better than any of your current strikers for a start. 

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On 17/10/2021 at 11:19, TheScarf said:

Thanks again.

Glad they're doing well, but I'd be lying if I didn't say it pains me every time "Goal for Caley... and it's Gardyne/McKay!" gets said on Open All Mics.

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On 17/10/2021 at 10:42, Loki said:

 

Was a strange statement at the time, even more so the next day when the manager got appointed, and doubly so four months later when we are a shell of a club with a non-zero amount of fans boycotting the team.

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Well McKay is better than any of your current strikers for a start. 

I still don’t think he’s good enough for premiership football anymore though. Especially towards the end of last season, everybody was saying they wouldn’t mind him being shipped on which was an indication as to him no longer be of the required standard.

However, I would agree that he’s better than anything we’ve currently got.
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21 minutes ago, Matty-RCFC said:


I still don’t think he’s good enough for premiership football anymore though. Especially towards the end of last season, everybody was saying they wouldn’t mind him being shipped on which was an indication as to him no longer be of the required standard.

However, I would agree that he’s better than anything we’ve currently got.

The problem with letting 3/4s of your squad go before you've even gotten a manager in is there's no guarantee that the new manager isn't going to bring in a bunch of absolute duffers. See Malky Mackay this summer (& let's be real here, hardly the first summer County have done a massive squad overhaul only for it to turn out the new additions are, to put it politely, not up to scratch).

It was always a case that yeah, Billy McKay & Midge & Vigurs probably aren't good enough for the top flight. But at the time the question was "do I trust the club to bring in better players?" & even before Malky arrived the answer was "not really".

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The problem with letting 3/4s of your squad go before you've even gotten a manager in is there's no guarantee that the new manager isn't going to bring in a bunch of absolute duffers. See Malky Mackay this summer (& let's be real here, hardly the first summer County have done a massive squad overhaul only for it to turn out the new additions are, to put it politely, not up to scratch).
It was always a case that yeah, Billy McKay & Midge & Vigurs probably aren't good enough for the top flight. But at the time the question was "do I trust the club to bring in better players?" & even before Malky arrived the answer was "not really".

I agree. And that’s solely down to Roy for appointing him and Malky for signing shite. But it still doesn’t negate that Billy Mckay isn’t good enough for the prem anymore.
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29 minutes ago, Matty-RCFC said:


I agree. And that’s solely down to Roy for appointing him and Malky for signing shite. But it still doesn’t negate that Billy Mckay isn’t good enough for the prem anymore.

Are you suggesting he wouldn’t still be scoring goals in the Premiership in a better team like St Mirren or St Johnstone?

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