The Queen of the South Thread

[Mr X 3,128]

Ahh, so that’s why you’re such a grumpy, auld bugger!

Must be

[Monkey Tennis 11,108]

27 minutes ago, Flash said:

From 3 January to 12 August 1989.
18 of the games were in the First Division from 3 January to 13 May 1989 and the 19th was the first game at the start of the 1989/90 season in the Second Division.

Ah, I wondered if it might have come during that legendary season.  I missed most of it as I was living elsewhere at the time.

[Hauftimedraw 24]

Apologies for butting in where none of our business but is the opposite of being a glory hunting b*****d?

[19QOS19 9,971]

Apologies for butting in where none of our business but is the opposite of being a glory hunting b*****d?

A silly b*****d.

[vikingTON 16,565]

3 hours ago, die hard doonhamer said:

If AJ can get through that without a win, the record is very much in his sights. Only the trip to Morton looks like it might be a place to trip up. Other than that, it's plain sailing in to the record books.

Queens' decent record at Cappielow* and the fact that we're not up to much either makes this my tip for you to break the run. Arbroath will likely get their first league win of the season against us at Gayfield in a fortnight for much the same reasons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Spoiler

We'll still deliver your routine, several goal swording at Palmerston later in the campaign though

 

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by vikingTON

[Mr X 3,128]

1 hour ago, Hauftimedraw said:

Apologies for butting in where none of our business but is the opposite of being a glory hunting b*****d?

 

12 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

1 hour ago, Hauftimedraw said:

Apologies for butting in where none of our business but is the opposite of being a glory hunting b*****d?

A silly b*****d.

You misspelt "legend" 

[PearceDuff CF 66]

Wasn't long with the apology .

[San Starko Rover 2,075]

Damn didn’t realise your run was quite so bad, when was your last win? Managers head must be on the block he’s probably glad there’s no fans in the stadium as he’d be in for a hostile reception.

 

[Flash 2,123]

7 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:

Damn didn’t realise your run was quite so bad, when was your last win? Managers head must be on the block he’s probably glad there’s no fans in the stadium as he’d be in for a hostile reception.

 

Last win was on 28 December.
Not so sure about the hostile reception bit. Queens fans tend to just drift quietly away and stay away rather than indulge in protests. I can’t think of any manager who has had a hard time of it in the stadium.

[19QOS19 9,971]

I've been booing at the end of our games this season in protest.

[Fae_the_'briggs 1,047]

38 minutes ago, Flash said:

Last win was on 28 December.
Not so sure about the hostile reception bit. Queens fans tend to just drift quietly away and stay away rather than indulge in protests. I can’t think of any manager who has had a hard time of it in the stadium.

True enough. We're don't tend to go in for mob demonstrations with ropes and pitchforks outside the ground but I think that's more to do with Queens' fans' mindset that we're not a big club which has a right to be successful,  it's not as if watching poor teams and struggling against relegation is uncommon. Apart from a few grumbling shouts from fans and moaning on sites like this,  we tend to,  by and large, accept what we're given, or as you say,  just drift away rarely to return. I suppose Johnston in his defence would say he's had to build two new squads in two seasons on a small budget and it was especially difficult this season being furloughed at a time when players should have been looked at. Is that a good enough reason to give him more time to try and get things sorted, only the BoD can answer that and they may be more concerned at this time with saving money and not splashing out on pay-offs. I suppose as the (shortened) season progresses they will have to stand up and decide if possible relegation will be worth saving cash against keeping on a struggling manager. 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Fae_the_'briggs

[SUPERSOUTH 542]

AJ is certainly living a charmed life the now.... Any of our previous managers would have been shown the door weeks ago..... 

Edited November 8, 2020 by SUPERSOUTH

[Fae_the_'briggs 1,047]

24 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

I've been booing at the end of our games this season in protest.

I empathise, shouting at a screen just isn't the same as actually being there venting your frustration. 

[palmy_cammy 2,824]

There really isn’t a single argument that can be made for keeping him.

The only possible reason is that we simply can’t afford the outlay of paying him off and hiring someone else. But if finances really are so tight that makes it even more galling that a large chunk of our income is going into the pockets of Johnston and Clark. One a complete dud, the other a complete arsehole.

My interest in the club dwindles with every day they remain in charge.

[Northfield 53 116]

20 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said:

AJ is certainly living a charmed life the now.... Any of our previous managers would have been shown the door weeks ago..... 

A J will be here to the end of his contract in May next year we just don't have the money to sack him .

Would a new manager make any difference with our budget it is a very difficult job.

[palmy_cammy 2,824]

Scotland were a disorganised and disinterested rabble under Alex McLeish. Under Steve Clark they are now a well drilled unit, playing for each other, in a system that gets the best out of them, and where each player knows what their job is.

The players are still mostly mediocre, but it shows the importance of good management and coaching.

Or you could draw on the literally thousands of other examples where replacing a shit manager with a good one has brought an upturn in fortunes.

[Flash 2,123]

26 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

True enough. We're don't tend to go in for mob demonstrations with ropes and pitchforks outside the ground but I think that's more to do with Queens' fans' mindset that we're not a big club which has a right to be successful,  it's not as if watching poor teams and struggling against relegation is uncommon. Apart from a few grumbling shouts from fans and moaning on sites like this,  we tend to,  by and large, accept what we're given, or as you say,  just drift away rarely to return. I suppose Johnston in his defence would say he's had to build two new squads in two seasons on a small budget and it was especially difficult this season being furloughed at a time when players should have been looked at. Is that a good enough reason to give him more time to try and get things sorted, only the BoD can answer that and they may be more concerned at this time with saving money and not splashing out on pay-offs. I suppose as the (shortened) season progresses they will have to stand up and decide if possible relegation will be worth saving cash against keeping on a struggling manager. 

 

Agree about the mindset. 
Johnston does have the defence of a small budget. But part of the reason for it being small is due to the cup results last season which were of his own making. I also wonder what the hell the squad would be like if we didn’t have the Dykes money. Maybe it hasn’t come through yet. Perhaps this season would have been the right time to go part-time. It isn’t as if we are doing ok after scraping the full-time barrel. And results in the league under Johnston against the part-timers are P7 W1 D3 L3. In the cups against lower league opposition it is P4 W1 D1 L2.

[Northfield 53 116]

8 minutes ago, Flash said:

Agree about the mindset. 
Johnston does have the defence of a small budget. But part of the reason for it being small is due to the cup results last season which were of his own making. I also wonder what the hell the squad would be like if we didn’t have the Dykes money. Maybe it hasn’t come through yet. Perhaps this season would have been the right time to go part-time. It isn’t as if we are doing ok after scraping the full-time barrel. And results in the league under Johnston against the part-timers are P7 W1 D3 L3. In the cups against lower league opposition it is P4 W1 D1 L2.

We should have a mix of full and part time players .

Raith do that it seems to be working for them.

The full time players they have train Monday and Friday through the day then a Tuesday and Thursday night with the part time players they have .

This we must be 100 % full time I just don't get especially now most players at our level are looking to go part time we could offer players both .

On the manager thing can we get any better than AJ who would want to manage a struggling Queens 

 

 

[Fae_the_'briggs 1,047]

32 minutes ago, Northfield 53 said:

We should have a mix of full and part time players .

Raith do that it seems to be working for them.

The full time players they have train Monday and Friday through the day then a Tuesday and Thursday night with the part time players they have .

This we must be 100 % full time I just don't get especially now most players at our level are looking to go part time we could offer players both .

On the manager thing can we get any better than AJ who would want to manage a struggling Queens 

 

 

I'm sure there wouldn't be a shortage of Mugs  Managers applying for the job. Where the problem arises is depending on the BoD to appoint the right one. They might need to loosen the purse strings a bit to offer a better salary for the right man (or woman) but if they want to stay full time in this division they'll have to show a bit of ambition. 

[Nithsdale Wanderer 52]

I think I am right in saying we are only 4 games into the new season.  It seems some people think we are in November in a normal season and still haven't won a game.

What a lot of negativity !

From the games I have seen we have a much better squad than last season and have a pacy attacking threat in line with the AJ philosophy. No hiding from the fact that defending needs to improve - if these players didn't make mistakes they wouldn't be with us.  It's not just us , it happens at other levels too just ask Neil Lennon !

It's all part of football but of course we want our team to do well all the time  just as supporters of every other team want theirs to do well too but it's just not possible for all of us at the same time.

I have seen enough positivity so far to suggest we can compete in the Division but it will be very tight as it always is.

All this talk about when we last won a game is irrelevant.  Last season is gone and did not complete normally so let's move on and concentrate on this one although, sadly, I can see this one being disrupted too due to the times in which we are living.  Kind of puts things in perspective.