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If you've signed McKee you've got a good player. He came to us with a shitebag reputation and whilst it might be true he's not much of a tackler, he has a great passing ability. We had two players next to him in a midfield 3 who would do the dirty work in Hutton and Carswell and it allowed McKee to keep things moving the right way on the ball. He got a ridiculous number of assists for us last year, mainly down to his excellent ability to find Ryan McGeevers head at set peices but he's a smart player who uses the ball well. 

If you can put grafters in midfield he'll link with the attack no problem, I suspect Morton and Falkirk fans will tell you otherwise so it may well be important he's got the right players around him in this division.

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Why not ?
furlough covers a good element of wages with 80 percent 
the managers is signing players so he isn’t officially furloughed then? 
 


He can’t sign anyone officially until off furlough and nothing is ever official until it’s on the clubs website.

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7 minutes ago, Fitbafollower said:

Why not ?

furlough covers a good element of wages with 80 percent 

the managers is signing players so he isn’t officially furloughed then? 
 

It doesnt matter how much of the wages it covers, it also covers 100% of not being allowed to work.

No one has signed yet. Maybe the manger has been, unofficially, talking to players. Maybe he even has some who've verbally agreed to sign. The club are hardly going to be stupid enough to shout about it in public though

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Why not ?
furlough covers a good element of wages with 80 percent 
the managers is signing players so he isn’t officially furloughed then? 
 
I'll admit I don't know all the ins and outs of the scheme but I'm pretty sure if he signs a player officially when he's furloughed then he's going against 'the rules' and the club would be in bother.
If you've signed McKee you've got a good player. He came to us with a shitebag reputation and whilst it might be true he's not much of a tackler, he has a great passing ability. We had two players next to him in a midfield 3 who would do the dirty work in Hutton and Carswell and it allowed McKee to keep things moving the right way on the ball. He got a ridiculous number of assists for us last year, mainly down to his excellent ability to find Ryan McGeevers head at set peices but he's a smart player who uses the ball well. 
If you can put grafters in midfield he'll link with the attack no problem, I suspect Morton and Falkirk fans will tell you otherwise so it may well be important he's got the right players around him in this division.
That's exactly the kind of player we've been after for years. I rarely take notice of Falkirk fans reviews on players tbh as they seem to hate all of their ex-players

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4 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

I'll admit I don't know all the ins and outs of the scheme but I'm pretty sure if he signs a player officially when he's furloughed then he's going against 'the rules' and the club would be in bother. That's exactly the kind of player we've been after for years. I rarely take notice of Falkirk fans reviews on players tbh as they seem to hate all of their ex-players emoji38.png

Since 1 July you can work part-time and be paid for those hours while being on furlough the rest of the time. So, if he was off furlough to sign one player, it shouldn’t have taken much time and therefore wouldn’t have cost that much in wages and wouldn’t have broken any rules. 

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8 minutes ago, Flash said:

Since 1 July you can work part-time and be paid for those hours while being on furlough the rest of the time. So, if he was off furlough to sign one player, it shouldn’t have taken much time and therefore wouldn’t have cost that much in wages and wouldn’t have broken any rules. 

But theres nothing to suggest that the manager has come off furlough to work part time. Something you'd think the club would "shout about" if it had happened

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3 minutes ago, Mr X said:

But theres nothing to suggest that the manager has come off furlough to work part time. Something you'd think the club would "shout about" if it had 

What's the managers role in signing a player anyway, he surely doesn't get involved with negotiations or contracts, or does he?

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11 minutes ago, Mr X said:

But theres nothing to suggest that the manager has come off furlough to work part time. Something you'd think the club would "shout about" if it had happened

I wasn’t suggesting it had happened only that it would be possible to sign a player while still being on furlough for the vast majority of the time without breaking any rules. Maybe if he’d only come off furlough for an hour or two the club would maybe think it wasn’t worth mentioning. Perhaps they would want all the signed players to be announced at once or within a short time period rather than one being announced and the rest a few weeks later. I don’t know. I was only pointing out it could be done without the club necessarily getting into any bother.

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41 minutes ago, Spring Onion said:

What's the managers role in signing a player anyway, he surely doesn't get involved with negotiations or contracts, or does he?

No idea, to be honest. Maybe he just identifies targets but he must have some involvement.

27 minutes ago, Flash said:

I wasn’t suggesting it had happened only that it would be possible to sign a player while still being on furlough for the vast majority of the time without breaking any rules. Maybe if he’d only come off furlough for an hour or two the club would maybe think it wasn’t worth mentioning. Perhaps they would want all the signed players to be announced at once or within a short time period rather than one being announced and the rest a few weeks later. I don’t know. I was only pointing out it could be done without the club necessarily getting into any bother.

Maybe. But based on the facts that we have, hes still on furlough full time

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We have most definitely got players signed, Tommy Goss and Dan Pybus both signed.
Ffs.

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50 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
54 minutes ago, Brother Grimm said:
We have most definitely got players signed, Tommy Goss and Dan Pybus both signed.

Ffs.

Don’t worry, he’s gonna make the club a fortune when they sell him on.

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11 hours ago, SUPERSOUTH said:

From last season we only have Leighfield, Holt & Dobbie there are only another couple from last years first team I would have back that havn't as far as I know been snapped up by other clubs yet CM Dan Pybus (22) & CB Callum Semple (21) too good young prospects that the club could maybe gain financially in future years.🤞

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8 hours ago, Dougie Mills said:

He’s pish - feel free to quote me when he someone pays a fee for him.

 

1 hour ago, Brother Grimm said:

We have most definitely got players signed, Tommy Goss and Dan Pybus both signed.

 

28 minutes ago, Dougie Mills said:

Don’t worry, he’s gonna make the club a fortune when they sell him on.

Didn't quite say that... But if its true he is signing/signed am happy, I'd be disappointed if AJ isn't trying to bring Semple back too. 

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If true its a good start Goss deserves his chance and pybus was probably our best midfielder last season not that it says much but certainly did enough imo

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4 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

That's exactly the kind of player we've been after for years. I rarely take notice of Falkirk fans reviews on players tbh as they seem to hate all of their ex-players emoji38.png

...Pretty much all our ex-players over the last 2 & 1/2 years deserve all the vitriol they get.

As someone who would have watched Dobbie run riot against us, you saw the shockingly poor standard we had on offer over that timescale. Very few exceptions amongst that motley rag-bag of plodders and slow-motion surrender-monkeys, & McKee certainly wasn't one of the exceptions.  Amazed he's got a Championship gig. 

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7 hours ago, Dennistoun Bairn said:

...Pretty much all our ex-players over the last 2 & 1/2 years deserve all the vitriol they get.

As someone who would have watched Dobbie run riot against us, you saw the shockingly poor standard we had on offer over that timescale. Very few exceptions amongst that motley rag-bag of plodders and slow-motion surrender-monkeys, & McKee certainly wasn't one of the exceptions.  Amazed he's got a Championship gig. 

A player like McKee needs the right players around him and a system that suits his style of play. Just because he wasn’t effective whilst playing for your gang of shite doesn’t mean he’s a bad player. He contributed 15 assists in 28 League 1 starts last season, if that isn’t worth another crack at the Championship I don’t know what is tbh. 

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7 hours ago, Dennistoun Bairn said:

...Pretty much all our ex-players over the last 2 & 1/2 years deserve all the vitriol they get.

As someone who would have watched Dobbie run riot against us, you saw the shockingly poor standard we had on offer over that timescale. Very few exceptions amongst that motley rag-bag of plodders and slow-motion surrender-monkeys, & McKee certainly wasn't one of the exceptions.  Amazed he's got a Championship gig. 

McKee probably realised the huge mistake he'd made signing for Paul Hartley within a few weeks and decided to work his ticket out.

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Joe McKee is an absolutely class act, and I'd be really pleased to see him get back to full-time football at a club like Queen of the South.

He was most definitely our marquee signing last summer, and came into a squad that was really short on both experience and (to be brutally honest) quality. Falkirk fans were quick to pile into our thread to tell us how awful he is, how much he'd shirk challenges and go hiding as soon as the going got tough. 

Let me tell you, the going was very tough at the start of last season and McKee didn't once hide on the pitch. In fact if anything, aside from the fact he's a very classy passer of a football, the way he was always willing to take the ball in really any situation and try and make something happen was evident from the his first minutes in a Sons shirt. When he came to us he was totally out of love with football, he admitted that himself on the Record Lower League podcast with myself and esteemed Doonhamer Colin Paterson. You could see pretty quickly that he was enjoying himself again and - more than that - relished the responsibility and pressure of being a key player.

As a player he's very neat and tidy. Yes he clocked up a huge number of assists for us (which says all you need to know about his dead ball delivery) but I'd say his passing was definitely his main attribute. He's just a really nice player to watch. Danny Lennon always spoke very highly of him last season, and I think he's exactly his sort of player if that makes sense? Good on the ball, always looking to get on it, and usually keeping things relatively simple. 

As a professional (and as a guy) he's different class. All last year he trained full-time on his own on days where Sons weren't training. I spoke to him quite a few times for the paper (and obviously we had him on the podcast) and he would always make a point of saying hi or stopping for a quick chat if I saw him after a game. He also called me up to thank me for taking the time to speak to him, inviting him on the podcast and wished me and Sons all the best on the night where he officially left us. As someone who spends a large degree of his life feeling like an inconvenience to lower league footballers, that really meant a lot.

In terms of weaknesses, I think he needs to add more goals to his game. He's a very good striker of the ball, but he really should've scored more than twice last season. If you want to get the most out of him then he probably needs a destroyer type alongside him too. That aside, and with the right coaching/management, I don't see any reason why he can't do a good job for you guys next season.

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1 minute ago, Jan Vojáček said:

Joe McKee is an absolutely class act, and I'd be really pleased to see him get back to full-time football at a club like Queen of the South.

He was most definitely our marquee signing last summer, and came into a squad that was really short on both experience and (to be brutally honest) quality. Falkirk fans were quick to pile into our thread to tell us how awful he is, how much he'd shirk challenges and go hiding as soon as the going got tough. 

Let me tell you, the going was very tough at the start of last season and McKee didn't once hide on the pitch. In fact if anything, aside from the fact he's a very classy passer of a football, the way he was always willing to take the ball in really any situation and try and make something happen was evident from the his first minutes in a Sons shirt. When he came to us he was totally out of love with football, he admitted that himself on the Record Lower League podcast with myself and esteemed Doonhamer Colin Paterson. You could see pretty quickly that he was enjoying himself again and - more than that - relished the responsibility and pressure of being a key player.

As a player he's very neat and tidy. Yes he clocked up a huge number of assists for us (which says all you need to know about his dead ball delivery) but I'd say his passing was definitely his main attribute. He's just a really nice player to watch. Danny Lennon always spoke very highly of him last season, and I think he's exactly his sort of player if that makes sense? Good on the ball, always looking to get on it, and usually keeping things relatively simple. 

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McKee is dung at Championship level which is why he washed up in the seaside leagues as your 'marquee signing' in the first place. Being a big fish in a very wee pond does not suddenly make him 'an absolute class act'. 

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