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4 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Pretty hard not to be negative when one of the best keepers you've had in recent years unexpectedly leaves the club mid-season.

The points you make about building relationships etc are quite right but they dont really help us now.

I would say wingers, plural, and at least one midfielder. Not so sure we need anymore strikers with Oliver and Hamilton sitting on the bench already

Could do with a goal scorer this season though

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Just now, eibbod nehpets said:

Could do with a goal scorer this season though

We've got one, he just needs to start scoring goals ;) 

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2 minutes ago, football maniac said:

Jack Ruddy leaves Ross County! Maybe just a coincidence but seems we might need a keeper and with him leaving it opens the door for us.

If it's the same Jack Ruddy we had from Wolves then god help you

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If this story is true, then Jamie MacDonald is the obvious replacement, but we'll need to pay a fee for him, because sure as hell Kilmarnock won't loan him to us.

Can’t play for us as already played for killie and alloa this season

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43 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

Gerrard didn't need to explain his decision so I've a bit of respect for him doing so tbf. I'm more frustrated that a contract isn't worth the paper it's written on again. I know loans are different but it still stings.

Do wish Robbie all the best and if Rangers are daft enough to not make him No. 1. in the next couple of years then I'm sure the boy will have a good career down south. Early days but I fully expect to see him line up for the National Side in the future.

You rate him that highly? Good to hear. I think he will go out of loan next season too but hopefully gets a shot at us after that.

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You rate him that highly? Good to hear. I think he will go out of loan next season too but hopefully gets a shot at us after that.


McCrorie has said time and time again his plan is to move up a level next year (English L1 or Scottish Premiership) and then try and get in with Rangers.

He still trains with Gers on Mondays, I reckon Gerrard is just trying to fast track his development and use him as a no2 (cup games possibly) next season.

A seriously good ‘keeper who, if he puts in performances at Livi, won’t be far off the Scotland squad

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6 minutes ago, QoS_Blue1919 said:

 


McCrorie has said time and time again his plan is to move up a level next year (English L1 or Scottish Premiership) and then try and get in with Rangers.

He still trains with Gers on Mondays, I reckon Gerrard is just trying to fast track his development and use him as a no2 (cup games possibly) next season.

A seriously good ‘keeper who, if he puts in performances at Livi, won’t be far off the Scotland squad

 

Fully agree with you. The loan system is used to allow clubs to ensure promising young players get game time. I have always been uneasy when a side like Queens get to rely on a loan player like McCrorie. In his case it's all about the player and Rangers. The loan has been good for Queens as well as Rangers but the lack of security has come back to bite our bum. I have no doubt this lad will play for Rangers and I wish him well. At least at Livingston he won't have to face the scoring machine that is Lyndon Dykes

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4 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:
4 hours ago, Toshson said:
I find this Robbie McCrorie situation very strange on Rangers behalf. If it's true and he's off to Livi, that's him played for two clubs in a season. Surely if anything major happened to McGregor and Fotheringham it would of been easy enough to recall him back from Queens to replace any of there keepers. It just doesn't add up on their part. And if he's going to Livi it would need to be as there No 1, not sit on the bench and lose guaranteed game time, which he's getting currently at Queens.
Then Livingston's wouldn't be able to play him against his parent club for the rest of the season as well.

I find it pretty shite from The Rangers as well. To recall a player just to loan them to another club is poor form IMO. Unless Livin are contributing more to his wages I don't see what benefit this is to them.

 

3 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:
3 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said:


Why wait 6 month when they could do it now?
 

For the reasons I've already mentioned.

Those reasons are very, very, very silly. 

 

McCrorie was the best keeper in the league, happy with this. 

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1 hour ago, football maniac said:

Jack Ruddy leaves Ross County! Maybe just a coincidence but seems we might need a keeper and with him leaving it opens the door for us.

 

1 hour ago, malkyshotton said:

If it's the same Jack Ruddy we had from Wolves then god help you

Hope Dobbie gets his shooting boots on if you sign him. He's good for chucking 2 in a game at league 1 level. 

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Seriously depressing news about McCrorie - you only need to look at the improvement in our “goals against column” to see the impact he has had on our back 4. Unless Leighfield has improved dramatically he is not a serious option so it is a race against time to source a suitable replacement.
Hopefully some other players in the pipeline but no point in recruiting bench warmers.

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I find it pretty shite from The Rangers as well. To recall a player just to loan them to another club is poor form IMO. Unless Livin are contributing more to his wages I don't see what benefit this is to them.
You benefitted from a very similar situation when you got Joe Thomson on loan from Celtic. He had been the main man in our midfield before he was unexpectedly recalled and sent on loan to another team in the same division.

A kick in the balls no doubt but swings and roundabouts.

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Jack Ruddy leaves Ross County! Maybe just a coincidence but seems we might need a keeper and with him leaving it opens the door for us.
Enjoy the seaside league next season then lads if he's coming to you

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You benefitted from a very similar situation when you got Joe Thomson on loan from Celtic. He had been the main man in our midfield before he was unexpectedly recalled and sent on loan to another team in the same division.

A kick in the balls no doubt but swings and roundabouts.
That was different though. In that instance it worked out well for us and was therefore a good piece of business from Celtic. In this case it has screwed us so it's therefore poor from Rangers...

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We have absolutely no cause to feel aggrieved here, which probably makes it all the more frustrating. We’ve been dealt a massive blow but were powerless to do anything about it. The pros and cons of loan signings in a nutshell ultimately.

After a fairly shocking summer transfer window it was hard to fathom January being worse, but it’s looking pretty grim just now.

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3 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said:

We have absolutely no cause to feel aggrieved here, which probably makes it all the more frustrating. We’ve been dealt a massive blow but were powerless to do anything about it. The pros and cons of loan signings in a nutshell ultimately.

After a fairly shocking summer transfer window it was hard to fathom January being worse, but it’s looking pretty grim just now.

Er, what? In what way was it a "fairly shocking" summer transfer window? We're not a better side right now than we were in May? Ok, I accept the last week hasn't helped the situation with losing McCrorie and Faiss but before that?

You're right though about the pros and cons of loans. There's always that risk. I recall also being concerned during Zander Clark's two seasons here in case St Johnstone suddenly felt the need to recall him. The frustrating thing here is that they've not done so for their own use, they've done to to send him elsewhere. But it is what it is and as our Dumbarton friend pointed out we've been on the other side of that sort of thing before. It's really no different from the Joe Thomson situation. We'll need to get players in obviously as we're two or three down now (not that McCarthy was ever a significant part of the 1st team anyway).

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After a fairly shocking summer transfer window it was hard to fathom January being worse, but it’s looking pretty grim just now.


A fairly shocking summer window in which we signed the best ‘keeper we’ve had in years, re-signed one of the best LB’s in the league, upgraded on Jacobs, who’d been a mainstay in the team for 3/4 years, with Pybus, signed the most exciting winger on the ball probably since Carmichael’s first spell and upgraded on Fordyce/Maguire in Kilday. Semple, in the long-term, I fully believe will be a terrific signing too.

Then we’ve got Lyon who’s improving game on game, Hamilton who is a decent striker, and Osman who 90% of fans were delighted when it came out he’s staying until May.

The only players I’ve been disappointed with are Kidd, Oliver (who even then still has grabbed some important goals) and McCarthy who is now away.

AJ had a massive rebuilding job and he’s done a fairly good job. A fairly shocking summer window is a massive overreaction.

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Our midfield is rank despite the signing of several players to play there and Hamilton and Oliver have barely contributed anything.

Kilday, Holt, El Bakhtaoui and McCrorie have all been good signings but even if you ignore the fact two of them have now gone it was a window of more “misses” than “hits”.

All opinions of course but I don’t think fairly shocking is an unfair description of AJs business thus far.

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6 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said:

Our midfield is rank despite the signing of several players to play there and Hamilton and Oliver have barely contributed anything.

Kilday, Holt, El Bakhtaoui and McCrorie have all been good signings but even if you ignore the fact two of them have now gone it was a window of more “misses” than “hits”.

All opinions of course but I don’t think fairly shocking is an unfair description of AJs business thus far.

I do. As is "more misses than hits".

And using the departure of two players you admitted were good signings in the January window to condemn the summer window defies all sense!

You are also over -harsh on our midfield but you're not alone in that.

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