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7 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

Are we allowed to worry or is it still too early in the season?

Yeah it's still way to early, mixed bag of results so far from the highly unpredictable league cup group games. Apart from a couple of teams, there have not been many amazing and wonderful team performances, maybe the group leaders in our section have been one of the stand out's.  We had our litmus test today and I admit I never seen this game but after the normal 90 minutes and away from home, I would take that kind or result all day long in the league. 

 

Honest question just for you, do you think we should be winning the league, play off spots, mid table safety, or battling relegation spots.

We all know we have one of, if not  the smallest budgets in the league. I feel lucky, in recent years especially, that we have managed to stay in this crackpot league.  

Long may it continue.....unless we go upwards 😂😜 

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7 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

Are we allowed to worry or is it still too early in the season?

Way too early to worry.

 It's not like our talisman is out for 6 weeks and we've signed a new goalie, 2 new centre backs and a new left back but we;re still shipping more than 2 goals a game on average.

Then I'd be worried.

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Yeah it's still way to early, mixed bag of results so far from the highly unpredictable league cup group games. Apart from a couple of teams, there have not been many amazing and wonderful team performances, maybe the group leaders in our section have been one of the stand out's.  We had our litmus test today and I admit I never seen this game but after the normal 90 minutes and away from home, I would take that kind or result all day long in the league. 
 
Honest question just for you, do you think we should be winning the league, play off spots, mid table safety, or battling relegation spots.
We all know we have one of, if not  the smallest budgets in the league. I feel lucky, in recent years especially, that we have managed to stay in this crackpot league.  
Long may it continue.....unless we go upwards  
I think midtable safety is an achievement this season but we'll be fighting relegation if Alloa and Arbroath compete.

Way too early to worry.
 It's not like our talisman is out for 6 weeks and we've signed a new goalie, 2 new centre backs and a new left back but we;re still shipping more than 2 goals a game on average.
Then I'd be worried.
You forgot to add we're still conceding from crosses. I agree though, far too early to be concerned...

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7 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Fair enough. I just wondered if you were aiming some criticism at someone for the issue.

My point was that we pretty much have to play him when fit.  We're short of quality so it's tough to give him a rest. 

In essence I suspect we're making the same point in different ways.

 

 

 

Not at all. Merely, saying he is getting on and injuries may be more frequent. 

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Wasn’t our opening result last season a draw away to Morton? There was certainly an early season 2-2 draw I’m sure.

So basically anyone using a draw against Morton as some sort of beacon of hope for the season is clutching at straws.

This has all the hallmarks of a relegation season I’m sure of it.

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Last seasons draw at Morton lead to a 4th/5th place league position going into the New Year.

A January tampering of the squad and a bit of moaning up to that point that the squad was on the light side put pay to what was a small but competitive squad.

At present we don’t even have a small squad. 2 or 3 more and this seasons small squad will be complete.

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Early days and different teams, so you can’t read too much into it, but we have conceded twice as many goals compared with the group stage last season - 10 compared with 5.

The previous goals against figures from 16/17 to 18/19 were 2; 4 and 5. This season’s total of 10 goals conceded is 1 less than the total for the last 3 seasons combined.

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21 minutes ago, Flash said:

Early days and different teams, so you can’t read too much into it, but we have conceded twice as many goals compared with the group stage last season - 10 compared with 5.

The previous goals against figures from 16/17 to 18/19 were 2; 4 and 5. This season’s total of 10 goals conceded is 1 less than the total for the last 3 seasons combined.

I would argue the team in the previous seasons was far more settled than this one.

Queens played one proper friendly this season prior to the Cup games.

Ardrie and Clyde were trialists games ...... certainly not what you can say were preseason friendlies, hence behind closed doors.

we will go through the same old .... we scored x number of goals and conceded x number of goals last season, this season etc etc etc.

I will go on a more positive stat that Queens have lost 1 in 4 games this season with a team of 8/9 new signings and another 2 at least to come in.

Work to be done.... yes

Worried....... no.

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I'd be more worried if we weren't scoring goals.

Defending , keeping it tight at the back can be fixed.  Scoring goals is just ability something that a team either has or hasn't. 

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Why can some people take a positive out of yesterday result . No dobbie down 3-1 pulled it back to 3-3 and in a league match that would be a good away point . Last season we would not have pulled it back with mr negative in charge so I think the future is a little brighter one thing for sure the games have been entertaining this season .

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2 minutes ago, lowland star said:

Why can some people take a positive out of yesterday result . No dobbie down 3-1 pulled it back to 3-3 and in a league match that would be a good away point . Last season we would not have pulled it back with mr negative in charge so I think the future is a little brighter one thing for sure the games have been entertaining this season .

There are of course some positives as you suggest.

Possibly worth highlighting though that with "Mr Negative" in charge we were 2 goals down to Morton in the first league game of last season and fought back to get a very good away point. 😉

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20 minutes ago, lowland star said:

Why can some people take a positive out of yesterday result . No dobbie down 3-1 pulled it back to 3-3 and in a league match that would be a good away point . Last season we would not have pulled it back with mr negative in charge so I think the future is a little brighter one thing for sure the games have been entertaining this season .

Oops !!!

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25 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

There are of course some positives as you suggest.

Possibly worth highlighting though that with "Mr Negative" in charge we were 2 goals down to Morton in the first league game of last season and fought back to get a very good away point. 😉

That was under pre- January Naysmith,  for me his attitude/tactics  changed around that time,  it was as if he thought we had enough points on board and could cruise to certain safety,  maybe even 4th to 6th,  with still half a season left.  Having said that we were 2 goals down to Morton that day so he had to be more positive coupled with Morton probably trying to hang on to their lead. It was noticeable in the  post - January collapse under Naysmith,  to my thinking at least,  that the approach to games was more cautious and we generally had to be trailing by a goal or two before the play became more attack minded. That's why I at least considered him negative. 

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42 minutes ago, lowland star said:

Why can some people take a positive out of yesterday result . No dobbie down 3-1 pulled it back to 3-3 and in a league match that would be a good away point . Last season we would not have pulled it back with mr negative in charge so I think the future is a little brighter one thing for sure the games have been entertaining this season .

It was a Cup game we had to win we didn't so we are out nothing like a league game .

The squad we have just now will not keep us up made worse with the  loss of Dobbie we MUST somehow find the money this week to let AJ get the players in that he wants if not then we will be off to a poor start something that will be difficult to recover from look at Falkirk last season poor start never recovered from it 

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Might be coincidence, but after Anderson left in February, we won 2 games and picked up 8 points, and none of them when Naysmith was operating on his own. It is difficult to know whether one had an effect on the other, but the season went down the toilet from around the time that Anderson left.

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For first 20 minutes y’day we played some great one and two touch football with our midfield totally dominant. Morton then had a good spell but not one that justified us losing three very cheap goals. Kilday’s penalty concession was madness.We then finished the game positively and certainly deserved the draw.

The back 4 looks decent enough on paper but it is worrying how easy it seems for teams to create chances against us.

Overall though, the match was entertaining and some of our passing and link up play was excellent. I thought Kidd, Paton and Murray were our top players on the day.

Clearly we need reinforcements but minus Dobbie that performance exceeded expectations.

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Have the regulars decided on what's our best formation and starting 1?


3-5-2

Mc Croary

Kilday Semple Brownlie

Kidd Holt

Murray Pybus Paton

Hamilton Oliver

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