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13 hours ago, SueSue said:

Why didn’t you just say so a couple of days ago.

 

What’s your thoughts Sue ? 

You think it’s worth a shot trying to get all Queens fans singing from the same hymn sheet. 

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So I think this is where we are at in the Betfred Cup:

We MUST win in 90 mins v Morton to get 2nd. If we win on penalties we'll still be 3rd as Morton have a better GD. But if we beat Morton in 90 minutes we are guaranteed to be better than the runner up in Group H. We then need three more of the following to happen:

A: Any Hearts win over East Fife, or any East Fife win but we have to beat Morton by 2 goal margin.

B: Any St Johnstone win over Forfar, or if Forfar win on penalties we could finish above them with a 4 goal winning margin over Morton. If Forfar win in 90 mins we can't better them in 2nd.

C : Any sort of Alloa win over Arbroath. If Arbroath beat Alloa in 90 mins we can't finish above 2nd in this group but an Arbroath win on penalties and a 3 goal winning margin at Morton would be good enough.

D : An outright 90 min winner in Dundee v Inverness, OR ICT win on Pens and we beat Morton by 3 goals, OR Dundee win on Pens and we beat Morton by 4 goals.

F: Airdrie to beat Hamilton by same or less margin as we beat Morton, OR Hamilton win on Pens and we beat Morton by at least 2 goals. A Hamilton 90 min win takes 2nd beyond us in this group.

G: Any Stranraer win over Ayr United, OR Berwick beating Livingston in 90 mins.

Happy to hear any corrections if I've cocked something up above? @Flash

 

We are in with a far better chance than I thought we were after drawing with Annan. It's not a massive reach. Probably about 50/50. It's been a tournament of shocks again but if Hearts and St Johnstone get the wins you'd expect them to get then we need either Alloa to get a win over Arbroath or one of Dundee v ICT to win outright. They can't just settle for a draw because other results might see one of them out. If we could win by a heavy 4 goal margin at Morton (optimistic I know) we'd be guaranteed finishing above runner up in Groups A and D too so would only need a St Johnstone win, Hamilton not to win in 90 mins, Alloa win, or long shot Stranraer win to advance. It's a pity we didn't extend our lead v Dumbarton 2nd half last week, or that we lost two injury time goals to Motherwell. Another couple of goals could have made all the difference.

EDITED TO ADD - I've only just realised Dundee v ICT is on Sunday after all the other games have been played. Wee bit unfair that as they therefore WILL know whether they can just play out a draw Austria v Germany style and both go through or not. We can but hope that they are either not in that position or if they are, it isn't us sitting waiting on the result.

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I would have wrote: "Beat Morton. See what happens elsewhere."

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44 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

I would have wrote: "Beat Morton. See what happens elsewhere."

But you are not Stats God Skyline Drifter.

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Not a criticism of Skyline Drifter, probably more a criticism of my self thinking "f**k it, someone else will sort that after"

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Not a criticism of Skyline Drifter, probably more a criticism of my self thinking "f**k it, someone else will sort that after"

Someone else already did

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51 minutes ago, Mr X said:

 

 

Someone else already did

Aye wikipedia.

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5 hours ago, the_palmy_pie said:

What’s your thoughts Sue ? 

You think it’s worth a shot trying to get all Queens fans singing from the same hymn sheet. 

Yes I do think that should happen.

i also think there should be more features in the programme regards the players. Interviews, their likes etc etc.

There is very little interaction with supporters and the general public.

get some first team players doing questions and answers at schools. Handing out free tickets to games. Have open training sessions at Palmerston and invite schools and any public to come along. Even if it is a Sunday. 

Number every programme and the winning number gets a free home or away shirt. It may increase programme sales.

Just things to bring a new young team and supporters closer together. 

Maybe player interviews which go on the club website in build up to games.l rather than always after a game.

even if it is done on a phone and then written into a feature on the club website.

Please don’t shout me down. I know it’s easy to suggest it and a whole lot harder to do......

there is definitely a closer bond between the players and the 300/400/500 away supporters. 

we need to have that bond with possible 2000 home support also.

 

 

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Definitely don't want to shout you down SueSue,    there's some decent suggestions in there BUT :

Getting players to give up some free time to go around schools,  etc,  would be a bit difficult.  Most are based in the Central Belt and training is done in Hamilton which is probably a cheaper option than bringing all the players down here.  It would probably be left to the Dumfries based players to carry out these extra duties. Also our full time wages are probably (just guessing)  on the lower end of the scale which players may accept if they are just expected to train and play without too much extra- curricular activity. 

I don't buy programmes so have no idea what they contain but a player profile and interviews should be a basic ingredient I would say.  Having said that I doubt if the programme is a great money maker and Queens could follow other clubs in doing away with printed programmes in favour of on-line ones to download.  How many people will bother to download it.  Also it comes down to volunteers (mustn't slag the volunteers)   giving up more time to do these things.  

I don't think the problem is too big,  just a wee bit of thought with really very little effort to make full use of all social media and other links that are already in place. 

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Here are some more great photos sent in from Trust members who joined before last nights draw! Thank you very much to you all.

We have Hugo Purdie, who is the nephew of former Queens keeper from the 90’s David Purdie, also we have George Watson, Mark Armstrong and a good collection of retro queens tops and last but not least Carol Divers who joined as a life member of the Queens Trust - our first life membership sold in over 8 years. Brilliant! Thank you for your support.

Although our season ticket draw is passed you can still join and help support the work we do.

It is only £10 or £5 for the whole year and very easy to join. Life memberships are also available at £100 or £50 (if already joined for 19/20 will discount your membership fee from this amount so it would be £90 or £45).

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1 hour ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

Definitely don't want to shout you down SueSue,    there's some decent suggestions in there BUT :

Getting players to give up some free time to go around schools,  etc,  would be a bit difficult.  Most are based in the Central Belt and training is done in Hamilton which is probably a cheaper option than bringing all the players down here.  It would probably be left to the Dumfries based players to carry out these extra duties. Also our full time wages are probably (just guessing)  on the lower end of the scale which players may accept if they are just expected to train and play without too much extra- curricular activity. 

I don't buy programmes so have no idea what they contain but a player profile and interviews should be a basic ingredient I would say.  Having said that I doubt if the programme is a great money maker and Queens could follow other clubs in doing away with printed programmes in favour of on-line ones to download.  How many people will bother to download it.  Also it comes down to volunteers (mustn't slag the volunteers)   giving up more time to do these things.  

I don't think the problem is too big,  just a wee bit of thought with really very little effort to make full use of all social media and other links that are already in place. 

You are not shouting me down pal.. no worries.

I genuinely think some of the younger players would have no issue coming down to Dumfries even once a month to promote the team.

we have young players that go back to digs, hotels or flats in and Around Hamilton that would do it. I am convinced of this. Pybus, Semple, Hamilton, Murray, Holt,  Gourlay. Go down 2 at a time, twice a season, once a month and that means 1 visit to a different school for 6 months

Hand in 50 free tickets to every school for every home game. It could encourage parent and grandparent to bring them along.

Ross County produced a single A4 sheet last season which had the team sheet, managers comments, Chairman’s Comments plus advertising for local businesses which help cover its costs.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

Definitely don't want to shout you down SueSue,    there's some decent suggestions in there BUT :

Getting players to give up some free time to go around schools,  etc,  would be a bit difficult.  Most are based in the Central Belt and training is done in Hamilton which is probably a cheaper option than bringing all the players down here.  It would probably be left to the Dumfries based players to carry out these extra duties. Also our full time wages are probably (just guessing)  on the lower end of the scale which players may accept if they are just expected to train and play without too much extra- curricular activity. 

I don't buy programmes so have no idea what they contain but a player profile and interviews should be a basic ingredient I would say.  Having said that I doubt if the programme is a great money maker and Queens could follow other clubs in doing away with printed programmes in favour of on-line ones to download.  How many people will bother to download it.  Also it comes down to volunteers (mustn't slag the volunteers)   giving up more time to do these things.  

I don't think the problem is too big,  just a wee bit of thought with really very little effort to make full use of all social media and other links that are already in place. 

Their paid full time money to do a full time job most are on 2year deals at last (so they don't walk away for nothing) so they'll be getting paid in close season would think its in the contracts to do promotional work. I remember players turning up at things regularly in the past never giving out tickets to. But that's the best idea on here for years pester power always wins

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Free kids tickets for what I would call the cop end can’t do any harm at all.

It gets their interest at a young age.

the guardian buys a ticket and the child pesters and pesters for sweets and ginger all through the game. Makes a bit of extra cash.

 

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28 minutes ago, SueSue said:

Free kids tickets for what I would call the cop end can’t do any harm at all.

It gets their interest at a young age.

the guardian buys a ticket and the child pesters and pesters for sweets and ginger all through the game. Makes a bit of extra cash.

 

They’ve been doing that for years without a great deal of success unfortunately. 

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1 hour ago, SueSue said:

Free kids tickets for what I would call the cop end can’t do any harm at all.

It gets their interest at a young age.

the guardian buys a ticket and the child pesters and pesters for sweets and ginger all through the game. Makes a bit of extra cash.

 

If I took a youngster to the football and they pestered me for sweets and drinks all through the game I don't think the experience would be repeated.  Does the Club actually run the catering outlets or rent the catering out?  If it's rented out the club won't make any extra money no matter how busy the shops are, unless the rental is on a income based amount which would be nigh impossible to monitor.  

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For avoidance of doubt, during term time we do regularly give out free tickets to schools, though not as often as when the Hollywood Trust used to effectively underwrite the Community Programme. As a rough average, every 150 free tickets given out tends to result in less than 10 actually being used. At the end of the day with a kids season ticket £18, most kids who want to go already have a ticket. 

As far as I know all player kits are already sponsored but its possible the recent signings of McCarthy and Paton arent as the Commercial Manager was on holliday when they were signed.

The catering outlets are rented though its clearly in the club interest for them to be as busy as possible.

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1 hour ago, SueSue said:

Has there been any news about sponsoring a players kit this season?

Phone up the club to enquire 

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2 minutes ago, ALOREBURNE said:

Phone up the club to enquire 

No need to ring thanks.

was given my answer prior to your post.

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I  think a great deal of dishing out of tickets already happens in Primary Schools.  It certainly was the case very recently, and I'd guess still is, but might be wrong.

JT certainly had a prominent community role in schools, but I'm not sure if/how things have altered in that regard  since his departure.

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