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32 minutes ago, spacekid84 said:

People don't actually think players come on here and read what fans think of them do they?

A few players do. Others look at Twitter, Snapchat, read what newspapers say, hear fans during the games, etc. Some purposefully and others just happen to see it. They are not superheroes, they are just young lads who happen to be good at kicking a ball around and chasing after it.

Let's be clear that all I and others are saying is that unnecessary negativity can't achieve anything good and may well affect individual performances negatively, and vice versa for optimism. Not that everything being typed on here should be done with the idea we are talking to players, which is obviously not true.

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1 hour ago, DUMFRIES_CREW said:

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Good win today but still short in numbers and more inportant quality .

We need at least 4 players but it looks like we are only going to get 2 both will be loan signing  have to hope some young players step up..

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A few players do. Others look at Twitter, Snapchat, read what newspapers say, hear fans during the games, etc. Some purposefully and others just happen to see it. They are not superheroes, they are just young lads who happen to be good at kicking a ball around and chasing after it.
Let's be clear that all I and others are saying is that unnecessary negativity can't achieve anything good and may well affect individual performances negatively, and vice versa for optimism. Not that everything being typed on here should be done with the idea we are talking to players, which is obviously not true.

I certainly think that calling young guys like Lewis Kidd “shite” or saying he should be released after only a couple of games is way over the top, unhelpful and pretty distasteful in my opinion

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5 hours ago, Margaret Thatcher said:

My partner is a singer. It's not the same as football but both are performance professions. When she gets bad reviews, or her directors are negative, or a crowd is unwelcoming, she has to actively make sure that doesn't affect her performance. Naturally, that is a part of the job, and she is fine almost all of the time, but she and our squad are all humans and capable of being affected by these things. When it has been rough for her and no-one has said anything too critical and she gets space to grow, she always turns it around. When she gets good reviews, it makes her glow and her singing even better! Bit of a random thing to say on a football forum, and she is probably at a higher level than Queens in their respective disciplines, but I think the principle is the same. Gotta trust people a little bit to get it right and then offer praise when it's due. The likes of Mercer, Murray and Dobbie (first time) have all stuck in an improved in their time with us, and the likes of Pybus and McRorie (sp) have said they want to do that.

Yes, that's fair enough - I see what you're getting at.  I try not to be unduly critical of individuals, especially young ones and I must admit that I hate the idea of them reading dismissive and disparaging comments.  Not many of us would enjoy that with regard to how we do our jobs.

I accept it's related, but it's not quite the same thing as the debate over pessimism/optimism though.  It requires more of a leap to see general remarks that strike either a downbeat or upbeat note as having an impact.

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Some of the results today were eye watering (cost me money at the bookies!). Just proves my point that it's early in the season to be writing off your team.  Her's hoping Annan do something for us against Morton.

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I certainly think that calling young guys like Lewis Kidd “shite” or saying he should be released after only a couple of games is way over the top, unhelpful and pretty distasteful in my opinion
He's 24 with over 100 games under his belt at this level. It's pushing it to class him as a young guy. We can be as optimistic/supportive/positive as we like but the fact is he is shite in CM at this level. Have people forgotten he played plenty of games there in his first spell for us and it's not entirely based on his first two games back?

RB is a bit more capable but he isn't a good CM.

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He's 24 with over 100 games under his belt at this level. It's pushing it to class him as a young guy. We can be as optimistic/supportive/positive as we like but the fact is he is shite in CM at this level. Have people forgotten he played plenty of games there in his first spell for us and it's not entirely based on his first two games back?

RB is a bit more capable but he isn't a good CM.


Someone saying today he hates playing RB, well mate your no a CM.

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1 hour ago, Northfield 53 said:

Good win today but still short in numbers and more inportant quality .

We need at least 4 players but it looks like we are only going to get 2 both will be loan signing  have to hope some young players step up..

Captain Obvious 

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53 minutes ago, JessieField said:

Some of the results today were eye watering (cost me money at the bookies!). Just proves my point that it's early in the season to be writing off your team.  Her's hoping Annan do something for us against Morton.

I hope Annan beat Morton because I like Annan. Good people there. Whether they win or not makes little odds to us in the table though. If we are to get through, which is a long shot with a maximum of 8 points, we will have to win in 90 mins at Cappielow, probably by a few goals. If we do that Morton's result at Annan will be irrelevant. 

Although Annan getting something would open up the possibilty of clinching 2nd with a penalties win at Morton I suppose. It would be minor scant consolation though to get 2nd rather than 3rd but not go through. It is worth a couple of grand though. 

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Lots of goals today and also lots of new memberships! Thank you to you all.

Another recent renewal is that of Queens Hall of Fame member Jim McCormick Great to have you re-join the Trust Jim.

Remember there is a chance to win a Queens season ticket in our members draw next week. Please support our work. Don’t delay join today.

 

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Now at 173 Trust members. The last two seasons have seen us reach just over 200 members. Please help us to reach that target again. 

 

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On yesterday, thought first half we were decent from the off. There goal was a strange one, kilday thought he was fouled, boy got in front from that put a cross in it held up in wind, and boy put it in albeit deflected. Again I didn’t think our midfield was particularly good bar Connor Murray who was superb, but we were controlling the game scoring 4 well worked goals. Second half we controlled, Hamilton,Murray, holt all breaking through and should’ve worked there keeper more.

 

On the players, as said before Kidd looked a lot more at home at RB than he ever has at CM. Paton I thought was okay but had a 10/15 minute where he was pretty wasteful when he was on the wing, went into middle of park and I thought he strolled it, and it brought more from Pybus. Really wasn’t impressed with Mccarthy, started brightly but he just seems to kick it way he’s facing usually to the opposition. Murray, Oliver and Dobbie all mixed it up well, some of the play between them was class. Oliver done really well up against two massive centre half’s. Thought Hamilton looked slightly better than I’ve seen him so far, think a goal would do his confidence no harm.

 

Two young boys looked pretty decent when they came on which was nice to see, so used to them coming on and looking like there going to shite themselves. Gourlay never had much to do defensively but on ball was very good. Irving the first thing he done was skin 3 players, could do to bulk up a bit though after that he tried to get by but seemed to always get outmuscled, but he kept trying.

 

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50 minutes ago, qos1990 said:

On yesterday, thought first half we were decent from the off. There goal was a strange one, kilday thought he was fouled,

Kilday was definitely and quite clearly hauled back by his shirt by Tierney. No idea how the linesman missed it, it was right in front of him. A clearer foul you will not see. It doesnt excuse him stopping and everyone else switching off though. You play to the whistle and complain after. Primary school kids know that. 

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Kilday was definitely and quite clearly hauled back by his shirt by Tierney. No idea how the linesman missed it, it was right in front of him. A clearer foul you will not see. It doesnt excuse him stopping and everyone else switching off though. You play to the whistle and complain after. Primary school kids know that. 


Was difficult to see from where we were SD, but yes your taught from 7/8 year old to play the whistle

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Given that Connor Murray has started the season really well and now looks to be fulfilling his potential under AJ, anyone else thinking we should be getting him signed up on a longer contract than just 1 year?

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Given that Connor Murray has started the season really well and now looks to be fulfilling his potential under AJ, anyone else thinking we should be getting him signed up on a longer contract than just 1 year?

I would see how he fares in the first quarter of league campaign. I hope it's not just a purple patch and he is actually on consistent form. I'm glad for him though he getting the chance

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20 minutes ago, sidofthesouth said:

Given that Connor Murray has started the season really well and now looks to be fulfilling his potential under AJ, anyone else thinking we should be getting him signed up on a longer contract than just 1 year?

This .

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37 minutes ago, Doonhamer doon south said:
55 minutes ago, sidofthesouth said:
Given that Connor Murray has started the season really well and now looks to be fulfilling his potential under AJ, anyone else thinking we should be getting him signed up on a longer contract than just 1 year?
 

I would see how he fares in the first quarter of league campaign. I hope it's not just a purple patch and he is actually on consistent form. I'm glad for him though he getting the chance

To be honest thought he finished last season well and was one of the best players in the playoffs.

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1 hour ago, qos1990 said:

On yesterday, thought first half we were decent from the off. There goal was a strange one, kilday thought he was fouled, boy got in front from that put a cross in it held up in wind, and boy put it in albeit deflected. Again I didn’t think our midfield was particularly good bar Connor Murray who was superb, but we were controlling the game scoring 4 well worked goals. Second half we controlled, Hamilton,Murray, holt all breaking through and should’ve worked there keeper more.

 

On the players, as said before Kidd looked a lot more at home at RB than he ever has at CM. Paton I thought was okay but had a 10/15 minute where he was pretty wasteful when he was on the wing, went into middle of park and I thought he strolled it, and it brought more from Pybus. Really wasn’t impressed with Mccarthy, started brightly but he just seems to kick it way he’s facing usually to the opposition. Murray, Oliver and Dobbie all mixed it up well, some of the play between them was class. Oliver done really well up against two massive centre half’s. Thought Hamilton looked slightly better than I’ve seen him so far, think a goal would do his confidence no harm.

 

Two young boys looked pretty decent when they came on which was nice to see, so used to them coming on and looking like there going to shite themselves. Gourlay never had much to do defensively but on ball was very good. Irving the first thing he done was skin 3 players, could do to bulk up a bit though after that he tried to get by but seemed to always get outmuscled, but he kept trying.

 

Absolutely spot on, every word i would agree with.

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